Brian in Philly

[kjun]

Just read today's review of Brian and I've got to say that the reviews of this guy are inconsistent. Still, there is a consistent thread of most unpleasant comments. I had just written him about getting together because his pictures are so hot, but I've decided to forget it. He just sounds too undependable and inconsiderate.

 

Just another case of Hooboy reviews being important to us.

 

the Cajun

[LovesYng]

Good move Kjun, he is a piece of work :-(

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[JamesK840]

Yeah, I read that too. I had never put much faith or even really noticed his negative reviews, especially with at least one person I've met giving him a rave review, but even though this latest reviewer may have caught him on a very bad day (and I'd give it 50/50 we'll soon see the requisite reply about the negative reviewer's bad hygiene and/or abusive personality) a pattern of consistent inconsistency (at best) is fairly clear. A reputation for being hard to reach, occasionally flaky is one thing (and not that uncommon amoung popular escorts here), but as reported in this latest review its starting to smack of "I'm not going to even bother puting the energy into pretending I'm enjoying this, give me the money so I can get to my dealer..."

 

Anybody with a body like his can make fairly good money for a while, but if they aren't professional about it they'll be making half what they could and it'll taper off much sooner. I hope he has another line of work he can rely on, it's a pity if instead he's going for a career as a junkie... the retirement benefits suck...

[spiro3]

I was very saddened to read Brian's latest review. I have at times come to his defense on this board. In fact, I was planning on seeing him again next month when I had to cancel due to some family concerns making it hard to bring off.

 

But, clearly, things are not going well for him. Perhaps escort burn-out? I hope it isn't drugs.........whatever, I wish him the best, and hope he finds happiness in whatever he decides to do in the future.

[LustinGuy]

I have hired Brian 3-4 times when our paths have crossed in NYC. True, he is a little unreliable but IMO he is one of the most beautiful eager bottoms that can be bought and he is worth the trouble. This kid is in a league with few others when it comes to being with a spectaular hot guy!

[JT Brooklyn]

Unfortunately.. it is becoming more the case, where Rate per Hour should read: $250 for 30 mins of "Sex". One of the questions asked should be "How long did you spend other than talking"? BUT alot of guys will probably say THEY can't "hold off" more than 25- 30 mins with a Hot Guy before shooting. A couple of the $250 an hour guys I know, have told me that, is the case alot! Works for them! So I guess Brian is falling into the 30 mins cost ya $250 type of Escort.. Contacted him a long time ago, no personality at all in email, which for me is a hint of what is to come... :+ :+ :+

[KY_TOP]

I saw Brian over a year and a half ago and gave him a positive review then. He was great fun and I truly enjoyed my time with him. But,if you read the review you will see even then he was a little slow to respond and kept me hanging until the last minute as to whether he would show or not. I must say the comment about kissing by the reviewer was a surprise since Brian initiated kissing with me and was a very good deep kisser.

 

I have received some private e-mails since my review from others concerning less than positive time spent with him. It is obvious that Brian is a real roll of the dice. I got lucky with my roll, others have not. So with Brian one must decide if he is worth the chance you take.

[skins1]

The lastest review is very very accurate. i had a similar encounter. He did not initiate the kissing and would hardly kiss at all. i asked him if he kissed and he shook his head no. i asked him if he was a bottom. no, no way. perhaps it was just me i don't know considering a comment previous on here said that he did bottom. i like to talk with someone sure, but to spend all but like 15min talking. to me it's him wanting to waste time. after we were done, if you will, i went to give him a hug, try a kiss, and he pushed away. what? what was that? if you are in or travel to philly just stick with premier.

[LovesYng]

Looking at his home page he has the PayPal link. Guess that's something new to pay for escorts

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Dumb and Dumber...

 

>Looking at his home page he has the PayPal link. Guess

>that's something new to pay for escorts

 

I dont know who is dumber... the client that prepays with Paypal (or any other way) or the escort that gives less than agreed upon service collecting through Paypal. There is at least one recorded incidence of one unhappy client reporting an alleged rip-off escort to Paypal for not providing paid-for services, resulting in the client receiving a refund and said escort having his Paypal account canceled.

[+ Lucky]

"I got lucky with my roll"

 

Did it cost extra?

[+ Lucky]

This unsatisfied client actually came twice. I'd like to be that unhappy with an escort!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Caveat Emptor

 

First off boywatchr, I am sorry for your unpleasant and dissatisifying experience with Brian. According to your review you made the appointment in good faith and you paid full measure but failed to receive much if any satisfaction. However, IMO you share some responsibility for allowing this to go on and then letting it get as far as it did. The rest of this post is intended for those that come after you.

 

Just read the review... first Brian is an hour late, then he is hairy (no fault to Brian unless this was specifically discussed beforehand), then Brain doesn't kiss -- well not much it seems, then he doesn't do oral but he tries to give the client the bum's rush with a quick hand, then Brian doesn't get fucked without being begged... lol. All of this without Brian ever achieving an erection. Then to top it off the client actually pays $250. I wonder just how many more shortcomings Brian needed to incur before he was sent packing with less than full measure of compenstion. Acccording to the review Brian failed miserably in his professional obligation. So did the client with his is good comsumer practices.

 

Within the past few days I recounted an escort encounter in my past where upon arrival I reviewed UPFRONT my understanding with the escort regarding services agreed upon when the appointment was made. It was clear that he would not follow through on two of the three services he commited to an hour earlier. I ended the appointment right then -- no if's, no and's, no but's, and no compensation. Others have recounted similar quick ends to bad beginnings.

 

All of this could have been avoided if...

 

1) the appointment was cancelled after the escort no-showed after 30 min. (that is more than sufficient without any other notice) or

 

2) a review up front of what was expected. Often things left unsaid are also left undone.

 

The variable reviews were sufficient notice to advise caution up-front. Yeah, this stuff shouldn't be necessary when dealing with professionals. Unfortunately, the world and some of the pros in it just aren't there yet. Until then if you don't want to get fleeced then don't play the sheep.

[Guest SilverDollar]

RE: Caveat Emptor

 

Having written the first review of Brian over two years ago, let me add some info. As usual, I agree with KY TOP. Here is a guy who was once great, but for whatever reason, has decided not to keep up his earlier standards. When I first met him in NYC, he was new, ripped and very hot. Kissed, sucked and bottomed enthusiastically. I saw him later in Philly and he was pretty hot then. Several months later, I arranged an appointment, but aborted it when I found out he wanted $1500 for an overnight. Saw him once more about a year ago, again in Philly, and it was a more perfunctory experience, though without the issues expressed here.

 

He once was a great escort, but I guess he should quit while he is ahead. I hope he reads this if he wants to stay in business. He really is a basically nice guy (or was).

[HotdadENYC]

Considering that there are SO many available escorts, in NYC and PHILLY, to choose from, I am at loss as to why someone would choose Brian.

 

IF HE IS YOUR TYPE, to the exclusion of others, then good luck and I hope that you benefit from the so-called proverbial "roll of the dice."

 

I think Brian has a great body, and if he kisses as well as reported, then all the better. However, I'm into more of a SURE thing and it doesn't seem that this KID delivers in that regard.

 

And yes, the entire group of reviews have been mixed, BUT until I see a review that knocks my socks off, I'm staying away from this kid.

 

If I am going to gamble with moeny, I'd much prefer to do it at the slot machines, where I have MORE of a chance of cumming out a winner.

 

hd NYC

[LovesYng]

>If I am going to gamble with moeny, I'd much prefer to do it

>at the slot machines, where I have MORE of a chance of cumming

>out a winner.

 

Better chance of cumming out a loser

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[guptasa1]

RE: Caveat Emptor

 

>Then to top it off

>the client actually pays $250. I wonder just how many more

>shortcomings Brian needed to incur before he was sent packing

>with less than full measure of compenstion. Acccording to the

>review Brian failed miserably in his professional obligation.

>So did the client with his is good comsumer practices.

 

Just a quick comment here. I think there are a lot of reasons the client chose to pay, even if dissatisfied. I can only speak for myself, but first of all, if the person shows up, I feel I owe them at least something. If I let the session continue, I'd feel I owed the whole amount even if I didn't get exactly what I wanted. (If I stopped it early, I think I'd feel I owe something, but not the full amount.)

 

Secondly, and probably even stickier. You're in a situation where you're alone with a person you don't really yet know. At least in my case, it's likely that person is as strong or stronger than I am. If you threaten not to pay that person, you don't know how they'll react, and it could get very unpleasant or dangerous. Obviously this isn't a problem with a good guy, but assuming the person clearly doesn't want to be there, it'd be a worry for me. I think in a situation where I felt I might be at risk, I'd rather pay it just to avoid a really bad situation. (Not that I'd be happy about it.)

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Caveat Emptor

 

>Just a quick comment here. I think there are a lot of reasons

>the client chose to pay, even if dissatisfied.

 

I'm sure you are right. Looking back at my wording I wish I had chosen it differently. My intent was to say that after a string of disappointments it finally ended in a $250 payment for said string -- adding insult to injury. The thrust of my comment was to urge that all expectations and limits be identified up front before either time or money is invested. After that failure to live up to the bargain by either party is pure bad faith. Hoping that things will get better as they go along rarely ends well. The client did allow the appointment to proceed and the clock to run.

 

I can only

>speak for myself, but first of all, if the person shows up, I

>feel I owe them at least something.

 

I understand. With me it depends. Clearly if the guy has totally misrepresented himself* then I feel no obligation. Why should I pay because he got caught in a lie or scam? If it is bad chemistry or good faith miscommunication then I'm up trasportation costs and maybe more depending on the exact circumstances.

 

If I let the session

>continue, I'd feel I owed the whole amount even if I didn't

>get exactly what I wanted. (If I stopped it early, I think

>I'd feel I owe something, but not the full amount.)

>

I don't disagree that some obligation ensues on the part of the client if he lets it go on. However, if the escort doesn't deliver on his agreed commitment made in setting up the appointment then I would let him know (when it becomes manfested, not later) that I am prorating his compensation according to what he delivers. Full compensation for little or nothing that was committed to is not in he cards with me. Of course if the agreement is not reviewed at the beginning of the appointment then it is simply a he-said/he-said situation unless someone is ready to pull out emails, if they exist and are readily available. They seldom are.

 

I appreciate your security concerns and each of us has to determine for ourselves how we deal with that. That is one reason why it is important to get everything agreed to up front so that neither side feels it has been taken advantage of. That can happen if there has been genuine miscommunication and the client's disappointment is not made known until the end of the appointment. (And it can also be claimed by the unscrupulous escort since the time was burned.) Each has invested time and it is too late to get things on the right track or just to call it a mistake and a night. The escort is likely to feel that he has been taken advantage of by a client that doesn't want to pay for what the escort understood the agreement to be. Scamming takes one person and a mark -- and sometimes escorts get scammed too. Miscommunication takes two people. Upfront understandings should avoid miscommuncation and cut off some scammers.

 

* BTW, I am not saying that Brian misrepresented himself. I have never met Brian and I don't expect to. None of us bystanders have any idea what agreement was made. The fact that certain reviews say that Brian (or any escort) does such and such doesn't necessarily make it so with every client or with any client. Escorts have no control over what goes into a review although they can offer a response. That is why it is important that each prospective client reach his own understanding with the escort when setting an appointment. The second half of the process is reviewing that agreement when meeting and calling it off if there is a misunderstanding or back peddling of commitments. Clients should rely on reviews only to narrow down which guys they want to approach.

 

It all boils down to this: be a proactive client that communicates your wishes and expectations before you meet to get down to business, not at the end. It is fair to both parties and GOOD for the client.

[marc anthony]

Uggghh.. it is spoiled. Take it back!!!!

 

When you go to a restaurant, and the dinner you order is spoiled... it really is important to return it before you eat the whole thing (or in this case ask for seconds).

 

I have a few personal conclusions...

 

1) I don't think I will hire Brian.

2) I think if you cum twice in a houly appointment, you really can't grumble that you have to pay the full fee.

3) It's funny how it usually works out in situations of conflict that both sides contribute to the problem.

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: Uggghh.. it is spoiled. Take it back!!!!

 

Totally Agree Marc..You are def right on the Money Guy!! :+ :+ :+

[+ Charlie]

RE: Caveat Emptor

 

I agree with your position on obviously intentional misrepresentation, but sometimes it isn't quite so clear. Back in the days before the Internet, when one found escorts through print ads without pictures, I hired a guy who met all the stats of age, height, weight, hair color, etc., and seemed ready to do all he had promised. Unfortunately, instead of "hot, handsome and built", he was terribly homely, out of shape and poorly groomed. He also struck me as possibly mentally retarded. I don't know that he misrepresented himself, from his point of view. I felt genuinely sorry for him, and thought that it would be cruel to simply say, "You are unattractive", so I paid the full fee, even though I could barely bring myself to do anything with him. Nowadays, I think one can insist on seeing a good picture, but if that isn't possible, then one has to take subjective descriptions like "handsome" on faith, and not penalize the escort if his concept of handsome isn't yours. There is no way to know in advance what he will actually do during the appointment, however, except to ask, and if he doesn't follow through, then I agree that he should not be paid the full fee.

[Like2Hire]

I was really looking forward to seeing Brian. I was put off somewhat by his rates and sparse communication but was going to go ahead anyway. Now I'm pretty sure that I won't bother. I should have figured that he was too good to be true. x(

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Chemistry Is All It Is Cracked Up To Be

 

Charlie,

 

The good-faith cirumstance you address falls under my concept of 'poor chemistry'. That is not limited to the homely either. There are many cute guys that just don't do it for me -- ask Marc Anthony. And some of my hot ones don't work for others. I think it is a good idea to discuss with the escort up front the possible lack-of-chemistry issue -- especially if there is no pic. Some escorts advertise a 'no-harm-no foul' cancellation within the first five minutes if things don't click. I think that is not unreasonable for someone offering a very personal service, especially without a pic, where physical chemistry is essential. I would pick up any out-of-pocket travel expense incurred as the escort invested the travel time. Everyone has to decide how they wish to deal with this issue. I think it also is better decided up front after talking with the escort, rather than on the fly, so everyone is on the same page. No one likes to see changes in the deal made unilaterally on the fly.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Chemistry Is Crack

 

"There are many cute guys that just don't do it for me -- ask Marc Anthony"

 

So you are saying Marc is cute?

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Better Living Through Better Chemistry

 

>"There are many cute guys that just don't do it for me -- ask

>Marc Anthony"

>

>So you are saying Marc is cute?

 

Very... just not my type... lol. But he is better than honey for attracting guys that are }( and best of all he makes me laugh.