Fin Fang Foom On This Morning's Jon Ramsey Review

[woodlawn]

>(As if all men who hire escorts are at the same "stage" in

>their lives. Please.)

 

That is an inference you created, not something I said. Surely you don't think I'll let you make up such things. claim I said them, and yell at me for saying them? Not in this life.

 

 

>Where, specifically, is the fabrication in that?

 

 

See above.

 

>><<<<< no one has ever asked me to pay less for my time

>because

>>they felt we were only doing "foreplay" (which is never

>>disparaged by people who are good at it). >>>>>

 

>><<<<< Especially if they have enough imagination to conceive

>>of a good time without fucking. >>>>>

 

>I remember saying both of those things and stand by them.

>Neither one makes a criticism of anyone's hiring tastes.

 

And I say that that is exactly what they do. Why you bother to deny it, I can't 'imagine.' LOL!

[phage]

>You are not usually so obtuse.

 

Thanks…I think.

 

>If you are not too lazy to go back and re-read the thread you will find several people who said just that, or words to that effect.

 

Point taken. Guilty as charged. I dutifully went back and read the entire thread. It wasn’t nearly as entertaining the second time around and I just didn’t see what you see. I think the kicker is “words to that effect.” No one said there was anything wrong with wanting a plow session, but that is what you inferred from it. No big deal except you are generally such a stickler about people reading exactly what you have written and not taking liberties by inferring something you didn’t specifically say.

 

It actually seemed to be a pretty equal distribution of people responding that the limits would be a problem and others who said they could think of many other things to do.

 

Different strokes I guess. I can’t imagine why anyone would hire someone under six feet tall, but I have no problem imagining that the hobbits make a good living too. And on the subject of height, if you know a dozen guys with Sebastian’s height and build, would you mind sharing? I find them extremely difficult to find.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

You really are desperate. I quoted what you said, exactly, then quoted my characterization underneath it and asked what the fabrication was, and the ONLY part you object to is a tangential comment I'd parenthetically added (and which was OUTSIDE quotation marks, so you can't pretend you thought I was attributing a quote to you). This, of course, leaves my summary of what you said intact, and you still haven't explained what the fabrication is in these lines:

 

'Actually, you and ad rian were the ones claiming that there was something wrong with people who fail to insist on anal sex or receiving a blow job when they hire escorts. You implied that they were still in a "high school" level stage of development, and in a later post accused them of "throwing money away."'

 

Well? What part of that paragraph is not true? What WOULD be the correct thing to infer from those words of yours I was quoting?

 

>>(As if all men who hire escorts are at the same "stage" in

>>their lives. Please.)

>

>That is an inference you created, not something I said.

 

Fine. Who exactly did you mean by "most of us" and what exactly is "this stage of our lives?" Go ahead, keep running away from what you said and trying to pretend you didn't say it.

[woodlawn]

>You really are desperate.

 

 

'Desperate' to do what? To score a point against some hooker I never heard of, never met, and don't give a shit about? You can't be serious. This message board may be a vital part of your existence, but it's silly for you to assume it's equally important to everyone else. To those of us for whom prostitutes are nothing more than a minor pastime, a message board about them can be no more important than that. Try to keep some perspective, will you?

 

>'Actually, you and ad rian were the ones claiming that there

>was something wrong with people who fail to insist on anal sex

>or receiving a blow job when they hire escorts. You implied

>that they were still in a "high school" level stage of

>development, and in a later post accused them of "throwing

>money away."'

>

>Well? What part of that paragraph is not true?

 

NONE of it is true, as I have repeatedly said. I have made no accusations against anyone, and 'implied' nothing about anyone's 'level stage of development.' The latter is a phrase you made up and that I defy you to find in any of my posts. Once again, you are simply making something up, claiming that I 'implied' it, and yelling at me for doing so.

 

 

>What WOULD be

>the correct thing to infer from those words of yours I was

>quoting?

 

Why is it necessary to 'infer' anything? Unless of course you want to start an argument and can't find anything in my actual words to furnish a basis for that argument, which is exactly the situation here. I said and continue to say that from the evidence I have seen and noted (including several posts in this very thread), many if not most who find this site of interest want more than this particular escort provides. You have provided no evidence to the contrary and can provide none. You have simply been devising a plethora of unsupported inferences in an attempt to denigrate what I have said. Your arguments are unconvincing except in one respect; they convince me that the notion hookers can extract money from clients without actually having sex with them is for some reason very, very important to you.

[duke37]

>>You really are desperate.

>

>

>'Desperate' to do what? To score a point against some hooker

>I never heard of, never met, and don't give a shit about? You

>can't be serious. This message board may be a vital part of

>your existence, but it's silly for you to assume it's equally

>important to everyone else. To those of us for whom

>prostitutes are nothing more than a minor pastime, a message

>board about them can be no more important than that. Try to

>keep some perspective, will you?

 

You have replied 6 times to this thread (so far). Are you sure you're not desperate?

 

 

>>'Actually, you and ad rian were the ones claiming that there

>>was something wrong with people who fail to insist on anal

>sex

>>or receiving a blow job when they hire escorts. You implied

>>that they were still in a "high school" level stage of

>>development, and in a later post accused them of "throwing

>>money away."'

>>

>>Well? What part of that paragraph is not true?

>

>NONE of it is true, as I have repeatedly said. I have made no

>accusations against anyone, and 'implied' nothing about

>anyone's 'level stage of development.' The latter is a phrase

>you made up and that I defy you to find in any of my posts.

>Once again, you are simply making something up, claiming that

>I 'implied' it, and yelling at me for doing so.

 

How do you yell at someone on the internet?

 

>

>>What WOULD be

>>the correct thing to infer from those words of yours I was

>>quoting?

>

>Why is it necessary to 'infer' anything? Unless of course you

>want to start an argument and can't find anything in my actual

>words to furnish a basis for that argument, which is exactly

>the situation here. I said and continue to say that from the

>evidence I have seen and noted (including several posts in

>this very thread), many if not most who find this site of

>interest want more than this particular escort provides.

 

Care to cite the evidence to which you are referring? Exactly one poster in this thread expressed disastifaction with Jon's limits. Or do you have some hitherto unrevealed talent for discerning the true feelings of other posters? You took me to task for not citing evidence to back up an argument. ON what basis are you arguing that many if not most who find this site of interest want more than this particular escort provides? Remember you didn't even want to let me assume that common parlance here on this site, like "us" means clients. Instead you vaguely waved me off by claiming some nebulous unspecified use of the phrase.

 

You

>have provided no evidence to the contrary and can provide

>none. You have simply been devising a plethora of unsupported

>inferences in an attempt to denigrate what I have said. Your

>arguments are unconvincing except in one respect; they

>convince me that the notion hookers can extract money from

>clients without actually having sex with them is for some

>reason very, very important to you.

 

Excellent example of doing exactly what you accuse Devon. Careless of you to put them in the same paragraph without a few rounds of circular logic to conceal the attack.

 

Jeff

[woodlawn]

>You have replied 6 times to this thread (so far). Are you sure

>you're not desperate?

 

Do you speak some alternate version of the English language in which 'desperate' has some meaning different from the one all English speakers use? Why would I or anyone have a feeling of desperation regarding such trivia? Look, if you want to insult me or another poster why don't you just grow some balls and do it? The silly circumlocutions employed by those of you who want to use personal insults without admitting you are doing that are really tiresome.

 

>How do you yell at someone on the internet?

 

Is that a serious question, or are you just so bored that you are free-associating?

 

>Care to cite the evidence to which you are referring?

 

It is described in some detail in the thread on the review of Sebastian. But you already know that since you were a participant in that thread. Or are you pretending to be someone else today?

 

>ON what

>basis are you arguing that many if not most who find this site

>of interest want more than this particular escort provides?

 

See above.

 

>Remember you didn't even want to let me assume that common

>parlance here on this site, like "us" means clients. Instead

>you vaguely waved me off by claiming some nebulous unspecified

>use of the phrase.

 

I can't 'let' or prevent you from assuming anything. You asked me what I meant by what I wrote and I told you. It seems to me that you ask the question, but you don't want to hear the answer. Wouldn't it be easier just to talk to yourself?

 

>Excellent example of doing exactly what you accuse Devon.

>Careless of you to put them in the same paragraph without a

>few rounds of circular logic to conceal the attack.

 

What, if anything, is your point? In the other thread you said you wanted to have a serious discussion of the issue we were talking about, then you gave up and disappeared. Do you have anything to say about that issue other than that you want to insult anyone who disagrees with you about it? Well?

[+ Lucky]

RE: Woodlawn On Ex-Lax?

 

"Or are you pretending to be someone else today?"

 

Pretty ironic question considering the source!

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>'Desperate' to do what? To score a point against some hooker

>I never heard of, never met, and don't give a shit about?

 

You said it, not me.

 

>I have made no accusations against anyone, and 'implied' nothing >about anyone's 'level stage of development.'

 

Then what was the point of bringing up high school?

 

>I said and continue to say that from the

>evidence I have seen and noted (including several posts in

>this very thread), many if not most who find this site of

>interest want more than this particular escort provides.

 

If that was all you had been saying you would never had gotten into an argument. Instead, you claimed -- adamently and repeatedly -- that an escort working with Sebastian's limits wouldn't be able to make ends meet. In fact, you predicted that a nation of 300 million people wouldn't be a big enough market for someone with his limits to make a living in. Of course, you don't know the first thing about running an escort business, but that hasn't stopped you from carrying on as if you do. When people who aren't lawyers express opinions about the law you jump all over them for speaking on matters of which they know nothing. You're a hypocrite.

 

>Your arguments are unconvincing except in one respect; they

>convince me that the notion hookers can extract money from

>clients without actually having sex with them is for some

>reason very, very important to you.

 

No, what's important to me is that escorts reading these threads get the message that they can feel free to set and work within limits that are appropriate and comfortable for them without worrying that theyw. Your arguments are unconvincing except in one respect; they convince me that the notion that there are escorts out there who can get by without offering the services you want is very, very threatening to you.

[Guest Bitchboy]

RE: Woodlawn On Ex-Lax?

 

Oh, Lucky, you are so wicked! Actually, ever since he/she/it ate his/her/its "formidable adversary" he/she/it has been quite constipated. I gather that in his/her/its sophmoric ramblings and convulted sentence structure he/she/it is requesting more direct verbal insults. Always being one to graciously oblige my elders: woodlawn, dear, you are a childlike twit who banks on no one being able to circumvent your twisted logic. I would image you are quite desperate, particularly since your Jew hater friend, who at least posts about "real" things (your word), has temporarily abandoned the homefront. For an old man, you are so very silly.

[Donnie]

>'Desperate' to do what? To score a point against some hooker

>I never heard of, never met, and don't give a shit about?

 

You used this one too many times before. When you're losing an argument, you say "I've never heard of you". Bullshit. You read this board every day. You have heard of him. And to keep this argument going, you do give a shit. And it stinks, as usual.

 

>This message board may be a vital part of

>your existence, but it's silly for you to assume it's equally

>important to everyone else. To those of us for whom

>prostitutes are nothing more than a minor pastime, a message

>board about them can be no more important than that.

 

You're a fucking joke. You've been writing on and logging into this message board daily for years under the names regulation, seraph250, pickwick, spendlove, and woodlawn. I particularly loved when they would "agree" with each other. ("You're right, Spendy!" "I agree with you, Pick!") Face it, you fucking live for this website and you spend a LOT of time posting on it and reading it. Can you spell D-E-N-I-A-L?

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>No, what's important to me is that escorts reading these

>threads get the message that they can feel free to set and

>work within limits that are appropriate and comfortable for

>them without worrying that theyw.

 

Sorry -- part of that sentence got chopped off. It should finish by saying "without worrying that there won't be a market for them."

[Guest Les]

Riotously, side splittingly funny Mr. Foom!

I was a fan before but this gem is a classic and made me a fan forever!

[Donnie]

>This is probably one of the

>funniest things I have ever read.

 

You didn't do much reading after the 7th grade, did ya?

 

>I read it over and over

>and now I am going to print it.

 

Truly fascinating. I assume you ran out of toilet paper.

 

>Whoever you are, FFF you are

>a man of great wit rarely seen today.

 

Yes, how sad that other less-talented humorists get published, while FFF's "genius" is wasted on a website devoted to escorting, a profession that he loathes due to his own self-hate and jealousy.

 

>I love your ability to put into perspective the

>reality of escort/client relationship and call it what it

>really is humorously.

 

Where did he do that? He ripped apart a stupid, badly written review. Any moron could've taken it apart sentence by sentence and done the same thing. And any of you who thought this was "brilliant" have really juvenile minds.

[Donnie]

>Riotously, side splittingly funny Mr. Foom!

> I was a fan before but this gem is a classic and made me a

>fan forever!

 

Les, you're a fucking moron. The humor comes from the original review. That's the person you should be complimenting.

[Donnie]

>The best laugh I had in days

 

Those must have been dark days.

[Donnie]

>Congratulations, I rarely had such a good laugh.

 

Must have been one dreary life thus far if this was the pinnacle of humor for you.

[Luv2play]

Donnie, why don't you take the pickle out of your ass? You would feel much better.:7

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

I just realized something (else) about Donnie:

 

He's French.

 

Intercontinentally yours,

 

FFF

[Donnie]

>Donnie, why don't you take the pickle out of your ass? You

>would feel much better.

 

Riotously, side splittingly funny Mr. Luv2play!

I was a fan before but this gem is a classic and made me a fan forever!

[Donnie]

>I just realized something (else) about Donnie:

>

>He's French.

 

So much for ignoring Donnie. Hey by the way you oughta change your name from Fin Fang Foom to "My big claim to fame is that I'm a beloved anonymous poster on an internet message board devoted to escorts (sorry, I know you prefer 'whores')". It's quite an achievement. What a rich full life you must lead.

[woodlawn]

>You said it, not me.

 

 

No, YOU said it. But you fail to explain why anyone would feel desperation over anything as trivial as what some anonymous hooker is or is not willing to do. I certainly can't think of any reason.

 

 

>Then what was the point of bringing up high school?

 

It certainly wasn't to accuse anyone of anything. Why did you interpret it that way? Other than to start an argument, I mean.

 

>If that was all you had been saying you would never had gotten

>into an argument.

 

 

YOU are the one who started the argument, both in that thread and in this one. I guesss business must be slow.

 

 

Instead, you claimed -- adamently and

>repeatedly -- that an escort working with Sebastian's limits

>wouldn't be able to make ends meet. In fact, you predicted

>that a nation of 300 million people wouldn't be a big enough

>market for someone with his limits to make a living in. Of

>course, you don't know the first thing about running an escort

>business, but that hasn't stopped you from carrying on as if

>you do. When people who aren't lawyers express opinions about

>the law you jump all over them for speaking on matters of

>which they know nothing. You're a hypocrite.

 

YOU are the hypocrite, and you're also a blatant liar. I qualified my opinion in each case by noting that it was an opinion and that I did not have a great deal of concrete evidence to support it. Neither do you have such evidence to support yours, other than your personal experience -- which, as I pointed out, represents only a minuscule percentage of the transactions that take place in this one country. The truth is, as I and others have often said, that unlike law and other legitimate fields there are no and can be no experts on an underground, illegal business like prostitution. That's true because there simply is no way of obtaining reliable data on which to base such expertise. That doesn't stop people like you from pretending to be experts. You certainly do get angry when anyone points out how little your pretended "expertise" is really based on. But that's your problem, not mine.

 

 

>No, what's important to me is that escorts reading these

>threads get the message that they can feel free to set and

>work within limits that are appropriate and comfortable for

>them without worrying that theyw.

 

If that were true I would think you would have something to say to the several other posters who in both this thread and the previous one have opined that I am right and you are wrong about this. But for some strange reason you did not.

 

 

>Your arguments are

>unconvincing except in one respect; they convince me that the

>notion that there are escorts out there who can get by without

>offering the services you want is very, very threatening to

>you.

 

LOL! In this economy there is no shortage of young men who are prepared to fuck and suck for money. That's been pointed out so often and by so many people on these boards that I regard it as beyond debate.

[woodlawn]

>You're a fucking joke.

 

Donnie, the nasty, duplicitous nature of your personality and that of your faithful Indian companion Shitboy has been pointed out by so many people on so many occasions, most recently in this thread below, that it requires no repetition from me. You and he have never contributed anything to these boards expect to dribble out, one by one, the long, long list of names of the people you hate. Being accused of negativity or dishonesty by you is like being accused of cruelty by Hitler. As long as people like you and he are around, the straight world will never lack for evidence to support their negative stereotypes of gay men.

[woodlawn]

>>You are not usually so obtuse.

>

>Thanks…I think.

 

You're welcome.

 

>No big deal except you are

>generally such a stickler about people reading exactly what

>you have written and not taking liberties by inferring

>something you didn’t specifically say.

 

Uh, when someone responds to a post of mine by referring to people who don't have enough imagination to conceive of a good time without intercourse, I don't have too much trouble figuring out what is intended by that. You think I'm wrong?

 

>Different strokes I guess. I can’t imagine why anyone would

>hire someone under six feet tall,

 

I don't have a height requirement for escorts. If you don't want to have intercourse with them I'm not sure what effect their height could have on your interaction. Care to elaborate?

 

>if you know a dozen guys with Sebastian’s

>height and build, would you mind sharing? I find them

>extremely difficult to find.

 

I wouldn't mind emailing you a couple of names, but we were discussing people in the same market as Sebastian and I have the impression that you are on the West coast, no?

 

There is no way I would post on this board the names of escorts I have found satisfactory. If Donnie, Shitboy or their ilk tried to pester them for a date, I'd get the blame and I'd have to find some new people to hire.

[woodlawn]

>Donnie, why don't you take the pickle out of your ass?

 

It's a good suggestion, but unfortunately I don't think anyone makes a pair of forceps that long.

[Guest Les]

For you Donnie:

 

Oh what a greasy tower he there massaged! . . . His right hand beneath the steering wheel, urging, urging, he seemed to be pulling himself into the far black harbour like a reflexive stevedore. . . . F's eyes closed suddenly as if they had been squirted with lemon. . . . I feared for the organ, feared and coveted it, so hard it gleamed, streamlined as a Brancusi, the swelled head red and hot as a radioactive fireman's helmet. . . . Kamikaze insects splashed against the glass. . . . Thus we existed in some eye for a second: two men in a hurtling steel shell aimed at Manhattan, blinded by a mechanical mounting ecstasy, the wretched New Jersey Turnpike sunk in soot behind us, two swelling pricks pointing at eternity, two naked capsules filled with lonely tear gas to stop the riot in our brains. . . .