Fin Fang Foom On This Morning's Jon Ramsey Review

[+ Lucky]

RE: Fin Fang Foom On This Mechanical mounting Ecstasty

 

Les I sneaked a peek at your post for Donnie. Hey, it's the best thing I have read all day!

[Donnie]

>It's a good suggestion, but unfortunately I don't think anyone

>makes a pair of forceps that long.

 

Awww-- Some anonymous internet troll I've never heard of thinks he's funny. Go tell it to regulation/seraph250/pickwick/spendlove and all your other aliases and you can all have a laugh together. Nice attempt at "getting back" at me for reading you in that other thread. Fucking loser.

[Donnie]

>dribble out, one by one, the long, long list

>of names of the people you hate

 

I've never said I hate anyone, and the "long, long list" (regulation, woodlawn, pickwick, spendlove, seraph250, etc.) is all just one fucking miserable loser. YOU. What a fool.

[phage]

>Uh, when someone responds to a post of mine by referring to

>people who don't have enough imagination to conceive of a good

>time without intercourse, I don't have too much trouble

>figuring out what is intended by that. You think I'm wrong?

 

Actually, I think it was in the same vein as the ‘high school’ remark. Not specifically directed at the poster or intended to offend. Just a way of describing sex that doesn’t include intercourse. You consider it foreplay and someone else (Devon I believe, but I am NOT going to read that thread again.) considers that dismissal lacking in imagination.

 

It was that dismissal of my preferred sex acts as mere foreplay that I reacted to. I was thinking the same thing – that all the responders who weren’t happy unless someone was penetrated were stuck in a sexual box and lacked imagination – but it occurred to me that I, and most everyone else, has a box of their own. My box does not include intercourse. That could just as easily be described as my inability to imagine how such a messy act could be part of my regular activity.

 

>>Different strokes I guess. I can’t imagine why anyone would

>>hire someone under six feet tall,

>

>I don't have a height requirement for escorts. If you don't

>want to have intercourse with them I'm not sure what effect

>their height could have on your interaction. Care to

>elaborate?

 

Height and teeth are just deal breakers for me. (It’s a big, big part of my box.) I’m attracted to men who are taller than I am and would not make the effort to hire someone smaller. It’s kind of girly, but I like to look up or at least eye-to-eye with a man I’m going to have sex with. I don’t know why, but I don’t spend much time trying to figure it out either.

 

>I wouldn't mind emailing you a couple of names, but we were

>discussing people in the same market as Sebastian and I have

>the impression that you are on the West coast, no?

 

You are correct. I’m in San Diego. I’ll travel to LA, SF or Vegas for someone over 6’2”, but that’s about as far as I’ll go. (They aren’t THAT hard to find.) If you’ve got any gems on this side of the country, please do send me an email.

[Donnie]

>There is no way I would post on this board the names of

>escorts I have found satisfactory.

 

Because they don't exist. You've never hired.

[+ Lucky]

Shit. I'm only 6'1 and 1/2!:-(

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>you fail to explain why anyone would

>feel desperation over anything as trivial as what some

>anonymous hooker is or is not willing to do.

 

Only a very experienced shrink could explain WHY you're that pathetic. But it's clear enough to anyone reading your posts that you are. And the more hysterically you claim that it's all so trivial to you the more obvious it is how deeply you care.

 

>>Then what was the point of bringing up high school?

>

>It certainly wasn't to accuse anyone of anything.

 

There you go changing the subject again. I didn't ask what the point WASN'T. I asked what the point WAS. You did have a point in bringing it up, didn't you?

 

>I guess business must be slow.

 

You guess wrongly. But that's not surprising given your ignorance of how an escort's business actually works.

 

>The truth is, as I and others have often said, that unlike law and

>other legitimate fields there are no and can be no experts on

>an underground, illegal business like prostitution. That's

>true because there simply is no way of obtaining reliable data

>on which to base such expertise. That doesn't stop people

>like you from pretending to be experts.

 

I don't pretend to be an expert. I am someone who, unlike you, knows how to run a business in the field that we're discussing. All I extrapolated from my experience was that it was not at all impossible for an escort with Sebastian's limits (essentially, that of an oral top who doesn't do anal) to make a living. You extrapolated from the fact that YOU "can't imagine" hiring an oral top who doesn't do anal that he therefore would either be forced to offer the services you

want or to get another job.

 

>I would think you would have something to

>say to the several other posters who in both this thread and

>the previous one have opined that I am right and you are wrong

>about this.

 

Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I was wrong. And no one has. There were a handful of posters in the previous thread who said they personally wouldn't hire Sebastian given his limits (outnumbered, mind you, by the people who wrote about things they'd enjoy doing that WERE within the limits), but except for ad rian, of course, the closest anyone came to validating your assessment that he wouldn't be able "to make ends" meet was dick_nyc, who said his limits "might be a point on which Sebastian might stub his toe" -- and since in the same post he acknowledged that "many want only what he does," I saw no reason to argue with him. And you are still the ONLY person in this thread to claim that Sebastian won't be able to make a living. Why you are so desperate to make that point is beyond me, unless you're obsessed with him.

 

>LOL! In this economy there is no shortage of young men who are

>prepared to fuck and suck for money.

 

I suggest you try and find yourself one rather than wait for circumstances to force Sebastian to make himself available to you. As a poster on the other thread wrote, "Just like so many of the Gaiety dancers, he has set up boundaries and if you don't like it, that's not going to matter much. They won't change just for you. Plenty of other patrons will still hire him. You can bet on that."

[Guest Love Bubble Butt]

OK FFF and Donnie, you guys have me curious. Why do you both hate each other so much? And have you two ever met each other in person ... that is know each other personally? An inquiring mind (me) wants to know.

[woodlawn]

>>you fail to explain why anyone would

>>feel desperation over anything as trivial as what some

>>anonymous hooker is or is not willing to do.

>

>Only a very experienced shrink could explain WHY you're that

>pathetic.

 

It's typical of you that you make up lies about the motives and actions of others, then use those fake motives and actions as a reason to insult them. But they're still just lies.

 

>There you go changing the subject again. I didn't ask what

>the point WASN'T.

 

But you are suffering from the delusion that I have some obligation to answer whatever questions you ask in whatever manner you wish. I think they have some medication that can help with that sort of thing now, don't they?

 

 

>>I guess business must be slow.

>

>You guess wrongly.

 

And yet you seem to have loads and loads of time to start pointless arguments with strangers on internet message boards about whether some hooker should or should not fuck. Is this what you thought you would be doing back when you were still young and life still appeared to have some promise?

 

>But that's not surprising given your

>ignorance of how an escort's business actually works.

 

Here we go again with the fake claims of "expertise."

 

 

>I don't pretend to be an expert.

 

See above.

 

>Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I

>was wrong. And no one has.

 

If I must come up with the quotes, I will.

 

 

>>LOL! In this economy there is no shortage of young men who

>are

>>prepared to fuck and suck for money.

>

>I suggest you try and find yourself one rather than wait for

>circumstances to force Sebastian to make himself available to

>you.

 

Given the vast number of young men who have (or believe they have) few or no economic alternatives these days, the problem is not finding one but choosing among a large and relatively undifferentiated mass. So many men, so little time!

[woodlawn]

>It was that dismissal of my preferred sex acts as mere

>foreplay that I reacted to. I was thinking the same thing –

>that all the responders who weren’t happy unless someone was

>penetrated were stuck in a sexual box and lacked imagination –

>but it occurred to me that I, and most everyone else, has a

>box of their own. My box does not include intercourse. That

>could just as easily be described as my inability to imagine

>how such a messy act could be part of my regular activity.

>

 

Well said. What a pleasure it is to discuss this matter with someone who actually has a brain in his skull rather than a pound of mattress ticking.

 

>Height and teeth are just deal breakers for me.

 

Teeth?

 

>You are correct. I’m in San Diego. I’ll travel to LA, SF or

>Vegas for someone over 6’2”, but that’s about as far as I’ll

>go. (They aren’t THAT hard to find.) If you’ve got any gems

>on this side of the country, please do send me an email.

 

I can think of at least one, although I am not 100% sure he is still doing it. I will send anyway.

[woodlawn]

>the "long, long list"

>(regulation, woodlawn, pickwick, spendlove, seraph250, etc.)

>is all just one fucking miserable loser. YOU. What a fool.

 

<<<<<Hagen, you ignorant slut>>>>>

 

<<<<<FFF . . . yesterday's news . . . Sick fucking fag.>>>>>

 

<<<<<You didn't do much reading after the 7th grade, did ya?>>>>>

 

<<<<<And any of you who thought this was "brilliant" have really juvenile minds.>>>>>

 

<<<<<Les, you're a fucking moron.>>>>>

[phage]

>Teeth?

 

That just sort of slipped in there. I’m sure no one is particularly interested in my sexual quirks, but yes, teeth. They don’t have to be perfect, but as far as I’m concerned nothing spoils a good face quicker than bad teeth. Very good teeth can also make an average face beautiful to me.

 

I don’t know how common this is, but I know it’s not that rare – particularly in this country where we have been accused of having a dental obsession. (Of course, that accusation generally comes from a dentally challenged European.)

[Donnie]

YOU WENT AND RESEARCHED MY POSTS?? Awww--That would be flattering if it weren't obvious that you've just got an awful lot of time on your hands. Who's the most pathetic fag shut-in on this site? And the winner is: woodlawn/regulation/seraph250/pickwick/spendlove. What a loser.

[Donnie]

>What a pleasure it is

 

No one cares about your pleasure, woodlawn/regulation/seraph250/pickwick/spendlove.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>>There you go changing the subject again. I didn't ask what

>>the point WASN'T.

>

>But you are suffering from the delusion that I have some

>obligation to answer whatever questions you ask in whatever

>manner you wish.

 

At this point, nobody's suffering from any delusion that you're even ABLE to answer the question. That's why you keep backing away from your own embarrassing words and trying to pretend that they didn't mean what they obviously did.

 

>And yet you seem to have loads and loads of time to start

>pointless arguments with strangers on internet message boards

>about whether some hooker should or should not fuck. Is this

>what you thought you would be doing back when you were still

>young and life still appeared to have some promise?

 

HA! Look in the mirror and ask yourself that question, loser. Do you honestly believe nobody notices how much time you spend on here?

 

>>Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I

>>was wrong. And no one has.

>

>If I must come up with the quotes, I will.

 

Go for it. Too bad you'll have to type them up yourself instead of being able to copy-and-paste, since they don't exist.

 

>So many men, so little time!

 

Step back, everybody! Woodlawn's getting campy! Just wait'll he breaks out with "It's Raining Men." }(

[woodlawn]

>At this point, nobody's suffering from any delusion that

>you're even ABLE to answer the question. That's why you keep

>backing away from your own embarrassing words and trying to

>pretend that they didn't mean what they obviously did.

 

What's embarrassing here is your pattern of lying about what others have said because you're unable to deal with what was really said. No matter how many times you try to move away from the point of the discussion, I keep bringing you back to it.

 

>HA! Look in the mirror and ask yourself that question, loser.

> Do you honestly believe nobody notices how much time you

>spend on here?

 

And how much is that? Are you also suffering from the delusion that it takes more than a moment or two to deal with the childish namecalling and tantrums of an hysterical hooker?

 

>Go for it. Too bad you'll have to type them up yourself

>instead of being able to copy-and-paste, since they don't

>exist.

 

That's what you said the last time, isn't it? Then when I produced two quotes (that you said I could never find) from a post of yours you had to scramble to come up with some tortured alternate interpretation of them. It'll be the same this time.

 

>Step back, everybody! Woodlawn's getting campy! Just wait'll

>he breaks out with "It's Raining Men."

 

If you're waiting for that you'll be waiting until your bald spot is no longer so easy to camouflage as it is today. Well, come to think of it perhaps that isn't such a long time after all. :-)

[woodlawn]

>YOU WENT AND RESEARCHED MY POSTS?? Awww--That would be

>flattering

 

It's you who are flattering me. You're such a nasty ittle hatemonger that no 'research' is necessary to come up with a long list of the people you've insulted in just the past few days. That's like saying you have to do 'research' to find tombstones in a graveyard.

[Donnie]

But you, busy little beaver, went to the trouble of looking for those posts of mine and copying and pasting them. That's just too adorable.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>What's embarrassing here is your pattern of lying about what

>others have said because you're unable to deal with what was

>really said.

 

I am the ONLY one who is dealing with what was really said. You're the one stonewalling, refusing to answer questions about what you said, rejecting my interpretation of what you said but unable to produce one of your own.

 

>No matter how many times you try to move away

>from the point of the discussion, I keep bringing you back to

>it.

 

That's hilarious! The point of the discussion was Jon Ramsey's review. You're the one who just had to bring up Sebastian and bitch about the other thread, thus launching us down this dead end. Speaking of which, I'm through talking to you about this, unless you stop bluffing and actually get around to producing those alleged quotes of people stating that I am wrong and Sebastian's business will fail.

[woodlawn]

>I am the ONLY one who is dealing with what was really said.

>You're the one stonewalling, refusing to answer questions

>about what you said, rejecting my interpretation of what you

>said but unable to produce one of your own.

 

More lies. Of course I refuse to answer your loaded questions, all of which assume that your tortured interpretation of my words and others' words is the only correct one. I have stuck and will continue to stick to the simple, clear point I have made on this issue again and again. Not you or ten more like you can divert me from it.

 

 

>That's hilarious! The point of the discussion was Jon

>Ramsey's review.

 

Uh, no. The subject of this thread (in case you have trouble reading the title) is FFF's parody of the review. I note that you have not contributed one single post (or even one sentence) that is relevant to that subject, so you are the very last person who is in a position to cast aspersions on anyone for straying from the subject.

 

You're the one who just had to bring up

>Sebastian and bitch about the other thread, thus launching us

>down this dead end.

 

I "launched" us? Who was it forced you to start this discussion all over again? Somebody standing next to your computer with a shotgun pointed at you, are they? If so, tell them hello from me. If not, stop that ridiculous pretense that anyone is making you do anything you do not want to do.

 

Speaking of which, I'm through talking to

>you about this, unless you stop bluffing and actually get

>around to producing those alleged quotes of people stating

>that I am wrong and Sebastian's business will fail.

 

 

LOL! The hilarious nonsense you keep posting more than justifies my efforts in this thread. As if I ever asked you to talk to me about this or anything else! Well I guess if you refuse to talk to me any more I will just have to bear up under the loss as best I can. LOL!

 

Oh, by the way.

 

<< Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I was wrong. And no one has. >>

 

<< I have shared with him my view that if he really wants to make a career in this business over the "long haul" as a "top," he needs to add anal sex to his repertoire. >> Post #5

 

<< Ditto!!!! >> Post #4 replying to my Post #3

 

<< I agree with the others, however, that I wouldn't pay $200 given his limits. >> Post #9

 

<< Ouch! Ouch! ...ditto, man! It is truly unfortunate that he does not reciprocate and is not interactive. While I read his review-- I became quite disappointed. >> Post #10

 

<< I wouldn't pay an escort for foreplay any more than I would pay for a CD of Mozart sonatas if it included only the first twenty seconds of each piece. >> Post #14

 

<< I think that is the point on which Sebastian may stub his toe. >> Post #21

[VaHawk]

Just an experiment to see if another post here will shove this thread over the edge into oblivion, so I can no longer read it on my screen. Did it work?

[Guest DevonSFescort]

><< Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I

>was wrong. And no one has. >>

 

><< I have shared with him my view that if he really wants to

>make a career in this business over the "long haul" as a

>"top," he needs to add anal sex to his repertoire. >> Post

>#5

 

This is your best shot. After all, he's telling us that he encouraged Sebastian to start fucking his clients if he "really wants to make a career in this business over the 'long haul' as a 'top.'" But that's not the same thing as saying that he won't be able "to make ends meet" otherwise, is it? Just to be sure of the poster's intent, let's check in on something he said later in the thread:

 

"The point is -- and Devon made it really well above -- that there are numerous guys out there looking to hire escorts, every one with his own particular turn-ons and repertory of sexual activities, and it's possible that Sebastian, since he's so hot and friendly and mainly accommodating, will do quite well without adding anal topping to his list of 'likes.'"

 

You lose. Again. The other quotes match my characterization of them to a T:

 

"Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I was wrong. And no one has. There were a handful of posters in the previous thread who said they personally wouldn't hire Sebastian given his limits (outnumbered, mind you, by the people who wrote about things they'd enjoy doing that WERE within the limits), but except for ad rian, of course, the closest anyone came to validating your assessment that he wouldn't be able "to make ends" meet was dick_nyc, who said his limits "might be a point on which Sebastian might stub his toe" -- and since in the same post he acknowledged that "many want only what he does," I saw no reason to argue with him."

 

Sure enough, one of your quotes was from ad rian and the other was the "stub his toe" quote from dick_nyc, so I'd already accounted for them. And the other two are purely statements about their individual hiring preferences, not assessments of Sebastian's ability to make it as an escort.

 

But what's even more striking about your list of quotes is that 4 out of 5 of them (the exception being the dick_nyc quote that I had already mentioned) were posted BEFORE I had even written a single word on that thread! Which means that they couldn't possibly have been claiming that I was wrong about something I hadn't even expressed an opinion about yet. Once again you are trying and failing to appeal to support for your views where there is none. You've gone well beyond the point of self-parody.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

><< Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I

>was wrong. And no one has. >>

 

><< I have shared with him my view that if he really wants to

>make a career in this business over the "long haul" as a

>"top," he needs to add anal sex to his repertoire. >> Post

>#5

 

This is your best shot. After all, he's telling us that he encouraged Sebastian to start fucking his clients if he "really wants to make a career in this business over the 'long haul' as a 'top.'" But that's not the same thing as saying that he won't be able "to make ends meet" otherwise, is it? Just to be sure of the poster's intent, let's check in on something he said later in the thread:

 

"The point is -- and Devon made it really well above -- that there are numerous guys out there looking to hire escorts, every one with his own particular turn-ons and repertory of sexual activities, and it's possible that Sebastian, since he's so hot and friendly and mainly accommodating, will do quite well without adding anal topping to his list of 'likes.'"

 

You lose. Again. The other quotes match my characterization of them to a T:

 

"Well, first I'd have to find someone besides you who said I was wrong. And no one has. There were a handful of posters in the previous thread who said they personally wouldn't hire Sebastian given his limits (outnumbered, mind you, by the people who wrote about things they'd enjoy doing that WERE within the limits), but except for ad rian, of course, the closest anyone came to validating your assessment that he wouldn't be able "to make ends" meet was dick_nyc, who said his limits "might be a point on which Sebastian might stub his toe" -- and since in the same post he acknowledged that "many want only what he does," I saw no reason to argue with him."

 

Sure enough, one of your quotes was from ad rian and the other was the "stub his toe" quote from dick_nyc, so I'd already accounted for them. And the other two are purely statements about their individual hiring preferences, not assessments of Sebastian's ability to make it as an escort.

 

But what's even more striking about your list of quotes is that 4 out of 5 of them (the exception being the dick_nyc quote that I had already mentioned) were posted BEFORE I had even written a single word on that thread! Which means that they couldn't possibly have been claiming that I was wrong about something I hadn't even expressed an opinion about yet. Once again you are trying and failing to appeal to support for your views where there is none. You've gone well beyond the point of self-parody.

[Donnie]

>You've gone well beyond the

>point of self-parody.

 

That happened about 5 aliases ago, kid.

[Donnie]

>You've gone well beyond the

>point of self-parody.

 

That happened about 5 aliases ago, kid.