potential no-show

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558-

 

After reading 4 great reviews on an escort from Phoenix, I saw him for overnight in Las Vegas in Mid-December. Had a great time and thought he was great. Decided to have him come up to my house in Northern Calif and bought him ticket 3 weeks ago. Told him I would contact him after Jan 12th, when he returned from trip. To my dismay I read a negative review on him this week. He was a no-show. I was really surprised as he did not strike me that way. I have tried to contact him via e mail and cell phone on several occasions and have gotten no response. In my mind I am giving him benefit of doubt (cell phone lost, no access to e-mail, ecetera. I was suppose to pick him up at airport (it will take 3 hours out of my work day) but I have this feeling he may not show up. Any one have advice. I surely do not want to leave him stranded at airport but do not want to waste 3 hours of my day.

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558-

 

After reading 4 great reviews on an escort from Phoenix, I saw him for overnight in Las Vegas in Mid-December. Had a great time and thought he was great. Decided to have him come up to my house in Northern Calif and bought him ticket 3 weeks ago. Told him I would contact him after Jan 12th, when he returned from trip. To my dismay I read a negative review on him this week. He was a no-show. I was really surprised as he did not strike me that way. I have tried to contact him via e mail and cell phone on several occasions and have gotten no response. In my mind I am giving him benefit of doubt (cell phone lost, no access to e-mail, ecetera. I was suppose to pick him up at airport (it will take 3 hours out of my work day) but I have this feeling he may not show up. Any one have advice. I surely do not want to leave him stranded at airport but do not want to waste 3 hours of my day.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

I'd call his cell phone again and leave him a voice mail telling him you'll pay for the cab fare from the airport to your place (or wherever you want him dropped off). Email the same info too for good measure. Leave your phone number in case he doesn't have it with him. Even if he did simultaneously lose his cell phone and email access and hasn't replaced the former or restored the latter before going out of town, he should still be able to access his voicemail and will probably do so if he arrives at the airport and you're not there. You could also have him paged at the airport after the flight has arrived. I think the above steps would be sufficiently fair to him since he hasn't responded to your efforts to get in touch.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

I'd call his cell phone again and leave him a voice mail telling him you'll pay for the cab fare from the airport to your place (or wherever you want him dropped off). Email the same info too for good measure. Leave your phone number in case he doesn't have it with him. Even if he did simultaneously lose his cell phone and email access and hasn't replaced the former or restored the latter before going out of town, he should still be able to access his voicemail and will probably do so if he arrives at the airport and you're not there. You could also have him paged at the airport after the flight has arrived. I think the above steps would be sufficiently fair to him since he hasn't responded to your efforts to get in touch.

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558

 

Devon-that sounds like good advise. Thanks for your help. If he does not show up, I am out an airplane ticket. Does that warrant me doing a negative review on him. I would hate to do something like that and find out later, through no fault of his own, he had no way of contacting me or showing up. At the same time, others should be warned of "no shows"

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558

 

Devon-that sounds like good advise. Thanks for your help. If he does not show up, I am out an airplane ticket. Does that warrant me doing a negative review on him. I would hate to do something like that and find out later, through no fault of his own, he had no way of contacting me or showing up. At the same time, others should be warned of "no shows"

[Chuck50]

Yep Devon such good advice from a good guy. Give the guy a chance everyone sees them a different way and dont let them sway you. HUGS Chuck

[Chuck50]

Yep Devon such good advice from a good guy. Give the guy a chance everyone sees them a different way and dont let them sway you. HUGS Chuck

[Luv2play]

Let me get this straight. You sent this escort an airline ticket. You said you would get in touch later. He has not been heard from since and he does not respond to e-mail and telephone messages. Also he went away on a trip in the meantime. It's possible his trip was extended and he did not keep your number with him (assuming you gave him your phone number or e-mail address). However, if he knew your name and city, he could have tracked you down, assuming your number is listed. All of that said, if he doesn;t call by the evening before you expect him, I would say the chances of him showing up are anywhere from zero to zilch. Good luck!.:-) P.S. If he doesn't show, you should give him a negative review to warn the rest of us.

[Luv2play]

Let me get this straight. You sent this escort an airline ticket. You said you would get in touch later. He has not been heard from since and he does not respond to e-mail and telephone messages. Also he went away on a trip in the meantime. It's possible his trip was extended and he did not keep your number with him (assuming you gave him your phone number or e-mail address). However, if he knew your name and city, he could have tracked you down, assuming your number is listed. All of that said, if he doesn;t call by the evening before you expect him, I would say the chances of him showing up are anywhere from zero to zilch. Good luck!.:-) P.S. If he doesn't show, you should give him a negative review to warn the rest of us.

[+ deej]

As an alternate approach, and something that might be better received...

 

Instead of telling him in e-mail and voicemail which he may not see to grab a cab, arrange with a local car service to have a driver waiting. It costs more and it's a cost you'll incur either way.

 

BUT...

 

You're not leaving your guy grounded at the airport. There's a driver holding his name up. He'll feel like a star.

 

If he shows up, GREAT! Everything goes as planned and you don't lose 3 hours going to the airport. If he doesn't show up, you're out the cost of the car service.

 

Even small airports in the US are serviced by car/shuttle services that will meet a flight and hold up a name of the individual they're looking for.

 

If the guy doesn't show up, think long and hard about submitting a no-show review. I submitted one once and immediately wrote to HooBoy asking him to pull it because my guy checked in with a very valid reason for not showing up.

 

The review aspect is one of those "it depends" issues. If he really stiffed you for an airfare he should be called on it. But make sure you've given him a reasonable response period. When does "really stiffed" click in? I sure can't decide that.

[+ deej]

As an alternate approach, and something that might be better received...

 

Instead of telling him in e-mail and voicemail which he may not see to grab a cab, arrange with a local car service to have a driver waiting. It costs more and it's a cost you'll incur either way.

 

BUT...

 

You're not leaving your guy grounded at the airport. There's a driver holding his name up. He'll feel like a star.

 

If he shows up, GREAT! Everything goes as planned and you don't lose 3 hours going to the airport. If he doesn't show up, you're out the cost of the car service.

 

Even small airports in the US are serviced by car/shuttle services that will meet a flight and hold up a name of the individual they're looking for.

 

If the guy doesn't show up, think long and hard about submitting a no-show review. I submitted one once and immediately wrote to HooBoy asking him to pull it because my guy checked in with a very valid reason for not showing up.

 

The review aspect is one of those "it depends" issues. If he really stiffed you for an airfare he should be called on it. But make sure you've given him a reasonable response period. When does "really stiffed" click in? I sure can't decide that.

[ad rian]

>All of that said, if he doesn;t call by the evening

>before you expect him, I would say the chances of him showing

>up are anywhere from zero to zilch. Good luck!.:-) P.S. If he

>doesn't show, you should give him a negative review to warn

>the rest of us.

 

I totally agree. We are talking about air fare here. That's not just taxi money. If the escort has not been in touch in the circumstances described that is not a good sign, and the excuse would have to be pretty damn good not to warrant a negative review. I suppose a death in the family might work, but isn't that a bit tired as excuses go? At any rate, if the excuse was not accompanied by an offer to make you whole by refunding the ticket or offering services in kind, a negative review would in my judgement be justified.

[ad rian]

>All of that said, if he doesn;t call by the evening

>before you expect him, I would say the chances of him showing

>up are anywhere from zero to zilch. Good luck!.:-) P.S. If he

>doesn't show, you should give him a negative review to warn

>the rest of us.

 

I totally agree. We are talking about air fare here. That's not just taxi money. If the escort has not been in touch in the circumstances described that is not a good sign, and the excuse would have to be pretty damn good not to warrant a negative review. I suppose a death in the family might work, but isn't that a bit tired as excuses go? At any rate, if the excuse was not accompanied by an offer to make you whole by refunding the ticket or offering services in kind, a negative review would in my judgement be justified.

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558-

 

Well, it is Friday morning and is plane is due in at 3:30PM this afternoon. Still no response from him!! In December I spent 3/4 of 24 hr day with him, as after the overnight we went to airport together. He could have gone off but he stayed with me whole time. That is what bugs me, he was such a nice kid and I was looking forward to spending weekend with him. I believe he either had decided to get out of business or one of his clients he was seeing this month took him on extended trip. My last communication with him was Dec 27th, the same day the negative reviewer posted on him earlier this week had his last conversation with him. In both cases we have left e mails and phones messages with zero response. I hope nothing happened to him. Any way I am not inclined to get car service for him(throw more money into this deal) but I think I will make every effort to page him at airport, leave e mails and more phone messages. The dilemma of doing a bad review?

I want to warn others about him, but at same time I want to give him sufficient time to give me reason. I agree even if he got "a better offer" and took extended trip, if he agrees to make it up to me (the air fare) I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Does any one know how long I can wait to put in negative review (HooBoy might not believe it is credible if I wait too long??)

[Guest Kenny021]

I really hate to sound negative here but I STRONGLY BELIEVE that you won't see this guy. If he does show up, he certainly needs to improve on his communication skills. In any case, as soon as he doesn't show up, you write your "no show" review and send it in. If he does contact you and you believe his "sorry my grandmother died" story, have Hooboy pull the review. If it's too late for that, he can always send in a rebuttal and explain his side of the story.

 

This behavior is very unprofessional and certainly others should be warned about him. Am curious about what his previous negative review was all about.

 

Remember, if he did it to you, he'll do it to others UNLESS WE ARE WARNED.

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558

 

The other review was written earlier this week for a meeting that was to take place on Jan 3. It was a "no show" review. The client had communication with the escort on Dec 27th or thereabouts confirming the meeting (The same time I had my last communication with the escort.) I guess this negative reviewer waited a fair amount of time hoping to get explanation. Of course my plans were made long before this review came out or I might have not have bought the ticket. At this point, I really do not want to divulge the name of escort, because who knows, he may show up. Odds of both his e mail and cell phone being out at same time is pretty slim. I give it 1% chance he will show up.

[Uncle Bill]

Whether or not YOU divulge his name, anyone who pays attention to this site (at least the twink lovers) already KNOWS who you are talking about. If you were trying to hide that, it didn't work very well (you gave too many details, like city he is from, number of good and bad reviews, that the bad/no-show one was very recent, etc.). In any case, he is definitely a major cutie and has really pleased those he's met, but he is new to all of this and quite young, so his instant fame may have thrown him for a (hopefully temporary) loop. I certainly hope he shows up for you (or, in the worst case, has a good excuse). I really wanted to fly him out to LA for a visit some time (or more likely go to visit him), but I'll be waiting now to see how all of this works out. Good luck!

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558

 

Uncle Bill-

I realize any one with 1/2 brain could figure it out. But we should all withhold judgement until it plays out. You are right, he is young and new at it. I know he could have freaked out about being in this business. But I will tell you the 18 hours we spent together in Las Vegas was great and he was very mature for his age and a total gentleman. That is why I am having difficult time with him not communicating with me- even that he intended to cancel. On other hand being young, he might just show up at airport not thinking that it is necessary to "touch base"

A funny side note. When I picked him up in Las Vegas for our overnight, he did not even bring a small bag. "just the shirt on his back" not even a coat or a toothbrush.

 

I will definitely add to this post once, I know the outcome!

[jackhammer91406]

gateway,

Uncle Bill beat me to the punch. It's pretty clear who you are talking about and so anyone who has followed this thread will know and can consider themselves warned. I wanted to address your fears about negative reviews as I have some recent painful experience in that area. This board's main premise as I understand it, has always been to provide information that may benefit future clients. We all have bad days, stuff happens that just changes everything on a dime, and I fully understand the reluctance to post a negative review of someone. The fact is in my case, I was only out time and hotel room, you obviously have a larger investment. But here's hoping that this young guy shows up.

 

Now as to posting a review one way or another. The burden to justify a no show rests on the escort IMO. Once a booking has been confirmed, the escort should make every effort to cancel, or at least postpone the appt. It's true that in this unreal cyber space, some escorts have fans that will go to great lengths to defend any behavior good or bad. It is also true that in this same unreality, there are some who have "marked" escorts for punishment and will go to the same lengths to bad mouth an escort. All you can do is simply state your experience and let those who will raise a ruckus, do what they will do. It doesn't change the facts of the case.

 

Good luck, and as the guys here have told me, don't let this sour you on hiring. There are some great guys out there.

 

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558--

 

After repeated phone calls this morning where I got "caller not available" messages, I finally got a answer, and I must say I almost fell out of my chair. He said his cell phone has been not working for out calls and his life has been hectic. He said he was still coming to see me. He seemed very non-chalant about the whole thing and I must say that I am still somewhat skeptical. But I will take three hours out of my day and go down to airport and assume he will be there. I really did not get into why he did not respond to my e mails or why he did not use "regular phone" to call me. But I will tell you one thing, if he is not at airport, I will not have any problem writing a negative review about him.

[+ Lucky]

a) I don't who the guy is

b) I can't stand the suspense. Did he show or not!!??

[OneFinger]

>...I can't stand the suspense. Did he show or not!!??

 

Hey Lucky,

 

It's been almost 24 hours without an update. I'm assuming the guy showed up! But, I would like details. :+

[Guest gateway558]

gateway558-

This is the first time I have ever posted on here. But I am finding the people give pretty good advice and our very perceptive. YES, he did show up and I have been preoccupied with a wonder visit. Yes, it was Erik from Phoenix (not Eric) as some figured out already. It did turn out to be a coinicidence that both his cell phone and e mail were not working. His cell company turned of his message service and he could not retrieve messages and the phone itself was very spotty about getting messages. He had just converted to new cable for his e mail and it was not working right. These events all turned out to happen just during the critical 3 days when I was trying to contact him right after that bad review on him. Being 19, he just figured we had appointment and he was going to be there, no need to reconfirm. His response to me was "I would never do something that awful and not show up"

 

Which brings up another point. Erik was shocked at negative "no show" review on him and does not remember who person was. During Holidays, he had family in and was not even dealing with clients. Unfortunately his AOL account only keeps e mail for 7 days and then deletes it so he can not go back and check it out. He asked HooBoy to send him copies of e mails so he could understand what the reviewer was complaining about but HooBoy said that policy forbids him sending copies of e mail. Erik is dumbfounded about whole thing. I believe him about the whole issue. I am trying to convince him to followup on the review and get to bottom of it and put in response. But his attitude is that he does not want any more clients and just deal with the 4 regulars he now has(which fortunately for me, I am one) I am trying to convince him that he never knows what future holds and this sight could be a valuable asset for him if he continues in business. At end of day it seems that HooBoy should get copies of e mails where Erik agreed to meeting before posting a "no show" review.

Of course, I can't force Erik to followup on it, even though I think it is in his best interest. Back to original post I did. I got some good advice from people here and I could have very easily left him stranded at airport. Thank you!! I was just as convinced as everyone else that he was going to be a no show. Any way I cant wait to see him again in 3 weeks.

 

Gateway558

[+ Lucky]

Heartwarming! Thanks for letting us know.