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2 hours ago, Lucky said:

And he is not in Palm Springs, but West Hollywood.

 

2 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

uhoh.....more fodder and ammo for that pesky "list the city in the subject line" thread!....... 

No big deal.  West Hollywood vs Palm Springs is akin to saying Chelsea vs Hell's Kitchen.... Just say NYC.

And for this guy... Just say SoCal

  • 6 months later...
Posted

I've had two (three????) very disparate interactions with Jack Ryan since March 2026:

1) March 2026.  I was in La Quinta/Palm Springs and met him at my hotel.  We had previously connected the year before and planned to meet but he was leaving LA for Palm Springs due to a break up and had to cancel.  We met in March and it was pleasant.  He charged 350/hr. He was late.  We decided that I would just give him oral.  He came.  It was nice. We talked a bit after and he told me that he was an IT consultant.  We started talking about AI and he suggested I look into Claude CoWork based on some of the stuff I was doing (as you will see later, he chose to see this as offering IT consultation).  He also mentioned that he was in the process in moving back to LA and was looking for places and was able to stay with his sister.  I told him I wanted to be topped by him and would love to see spend some time with him (maybe a couple times) when he was next in LA.  He offered to drive to LA for an additional fee of 225 or we could do two hours (650) and he would plan to run errands when he was here.  We opted on 2 nights at 2 hours each on a Friday and Saturdy in April and he would stay with his sister and run errands.  He asked for 50% in advance.  This would have raised a red flag but since I had previously met with him I went ahead and sent it to him. 650 advanced

A week before we were supposed to meet he emailed me stating he was at a hotel because the AC at his place was out and could I advance him another 100 toward the upcoming weekend. Advanced 100 more (total 750)

The next day he said the AC part had come in but he needed to stay in the hotel another night.  Could I advance another 100.  Advanced 100 more (850 total advanced for 1300 engagement)

2) April 2026.  We had planned to meet at 7pm.  He texts me a couple hours before to tell me he was just leaving Palm Springs.  I asked for his ETA and he mentioned that he would be driving into LA and driving back that night.  I asked him about our plans for the next night and he mentioned that his sister had guests so he was going to have to drive back.  He wasn't going to get their until late for our 2 hours so I offered to get him a hotel (I have a lot of points) to make it easier for him, and he accepted. He was then further delayed from departing PS for a number of reasons and then was delayed again because he had to charge his car midway.  He arrived several hours late.  He was obviously tired (hell, so was I at that point!) and after some discussion, he suggested I just give him oral that night and we would do more the next night.  This was a very different experience from the first time.  He was unengaged, looking at his phone and, honestly, couldn't deliver.  He said that never happened and that he was just tired.  As he was leaving he asked that I give him some cash toward the next night and he took 300 (total payout at that point was 1150). I made sure he got into the hotel down the road and got settled in.

3) The next day I checked in with him around noon.  He said he slept well and was having a good day.  He confirmed that we would see each other at 7pm that night.  At 7:05, when I hadn't heard from him I reached out to see where he was. After not hearing from him I called him.  He answered and sounded very sick.  He said he had food poisoning, or something and couldn't keep anything down.  He said he was very week and unable to drive home.  I offered to keep him in the hotel for another night and had some soup (chicken noodle) and some water/electrolyte drinks sent to him room.  Bottom line, he remained ill and week through Tuesday.  He allegedly had a video call with his doctor on Monday.  He checked out on Tuesday (after 4 nights) and said he would drive home and stop to sleep on the way if needed. He was very appreciative of all the care I had given him and his specific text to me on his last day in the hotel was " And once I'm feeling better we can plan a proper second night.  I'd still like to make that happen."  After he left and I got the bill, I learned that I had paid for his parking (which he agreed to cover)

I checked in with him once he got home.  He was still sick but very appreciative and again commented that he was looking forward to our next time and being healthy for it. He indicated that he hoped to be feeling better in a few days and we could check in.

I checked in a week later and he said he was still not 100%.  I mentioned that I had used Claude for a project and it had worked well.

Two weeks later I checked in to see how he was.  Was getting better but still not there. He said he would let me know when he was planning to be back in LA and we could figure out a way to connect. 

FInally, about a month later, I noticed that his RM profile was active and that he was in SF.  I reached out to him to see how he was and mentioned that I saw him online.  I got a message back that he "was a professional and will handle it in the future" but that he was still sick.  He said he was in SF to attend his dad and stepmom's wedding (and I guess decided to update his location on his profile) and that it was probably his assistant who was online responding to messages.

It was at that point that I knew for sure that I would not be having a second session or seeing my pre-paid $$ again.

To my surprise, Jack reached out to me this past Saturday.  His message said, "Hi Steve.  I've been meaning to respond but had some work to do on myself.  I got sober and I'm in a much better place these days."

I responded and thanked him for responding to me and letting me know how he was doing.  I told him I didn't know he was dealing with sobriety issues and was glad to hear he was addressing them. I mentioned that if that had anything to do with the sickness he experienced when we met the last time I hope having a place to stay for a few days helped that that that was my gift to him.  I would do that for anyone I could.

I then asked if he was still seeing clients and if we could either set up a time to get together or if he would return the deposit.

His response was that he wanted to reach out and share something personal and that he wasn't expecting to talk about business.  He understood my perspective but, from his, it was a "discounted arrangement and the whole situation just wasn't good for either of us.  He then stated that because he has suggested Claude to me as a tool (5 minute conversation!) and basically implied I should consider the remainder a consulting fee. He said my "monitoring him online" made him uncomfortable (he was listed as a RM buddy and it showed that he was active....) and, as a result he wouldn't be seeing me again.

I am fine with that fact that I spent a lot of my resources taking care of a sick person (assuming he was genuinely sick) and I hope he does find sobriety.  But he took an additional 500 from me and doesn't feel any obligation to make it right.

Shame on me for that. But I am going to share this with others so they are educated about him.  One of the steps in recovery is holding oneself accountable for one's actions. Even just apologizing would have been a step.  He has a long way to go.

I have documentation of all these conversations and payments.  A part of me wants to send the link to this post to him.  But I realize I made the mistake of trusting him.  I will leave it here.

 

Posted
11 hours ago, Phixi0101 said:

I've had two (three????) very disparate interactions with Jack Ryan since March 2026:

1) March 2026.  I was in La Quinta/Palm Springs and met him at my hotel.  We had previously connected the year before and planned to meet but he was leaving LA for Palm Springs due to a break up and had to cancel.  We met in March and it was pleasant.  He charged 350/hr. He was late.  We decided that I would just give him oral.  He came.  It was nice. We talked a bit after and he told me that he was an IT consultant.  We started talking about AI and he suggested I look into Claude CoWork based on some of the stuff I was doing (as you will see later, he chose to see this as offering IT consultation).  He also mentioned that he was in the process in moving back to LA and was looking for places and was able to stay with his sister.  I told him I wanted to be topped by him and would love to see spend some time with him (maybe a couple times) when he was next in LA.  He offered to drive to LA for an additional fee of 225 or we could do two hours (650) and he would plan to run errands when he was here.  We opted on 2 nights at 2 hours each on a Friday and Saturdy in April and he would stay with his sister and run errands.  He asked for 50% in advance.  This would have raised a red flag but since I had previously met with him I went ahead and sent it to him. 650 advanced

A week before we were supposed to meet he emailed me stating he was at a hotel because the AC at his place was out and could I advance him another 100 toward the upcoming weekend. Advanced 100 more (total 750)

The next day he said the AC part had come in but he needed to stay in the hotel another night.  Could I advance another 100.  Advanced 100 more (850 total advanced for 1300 engagement)

2) April 2026.  We had planned to meet at 7pm.  He texts me a couple hours before to tell me he was just leaving Palm Springs.  I asked for his ETA and he mentioned that he would be driving into LA and driving back that night.  I asked him about our plans for the next night and he mentioned that his sister had guests so he was going to have to drive back.  He wasn't going to get their until late for our 2 hours so I offered to get him a hotel (I have a lot of points) to make it easier for him, and he accepted. He was then further delayed from departing PS for a number of reasons and then was delayed again because he had to charge his car midway.  He arrived several hours late.  He was obviously tired (hell, so was I at that point!) and after some discussion, he suggested I just give him oral that night and we would do more the next night.  This was a very different experience from the first time.  He was unengaged, looking at his phone and, honestly, couldn't deliver.  He said that never happened and that he was just tired.  As he was leaving he asked that I give him some cash toward the next night and he took 300 (total payout at that point was 1150). I made sure he got into the hotel down the road and got settled in.

3) The next day I checked in with him around noon.  He said he slept well and was having a good day.  He confirmed that we would see each other at 7pm that night.  At 7:05, when I hadn't heard from him I reached out to see where he was. After not hearing from him I called him.  He answered and sounded very sick.  He said he had food poisoning, or something and couldn't keep anything down.  He said he was very week and unable to drive home.  I offered to keep him in the hotel for another night and had some soup (chicken noodle) and some water/electrolyte drinks sent to him room.  Bottom line, he remained ill and week through Tuesday.  He allegedly had a video call with his doctor on Monday.  He checked out on Tuesday (after 4 nights) and said he would drive home and stop to sleep on the way if needed. He was very appreciative of all the care I had given him and his specific text to me on his last day in the hotel was " And once I'm feeling better we can plan a proper second night.  I'd still like to make that happen."  After he left and I got the bill, I learned that I had paid for his parking (which he agreed to cover)

I checked in with him once he got home.  He was still sick but very appreciative and again commented that he was looking forward to our next time and being healthy for it. He indicated that he hoped to be feeling better in a few days and we could check in.

I checked in a week later and he said he was still not 100%.  I mentioned that I had used Claude for a project and it had worked well.

Two weeks later I checked in to see how he was.  Was getting better but still not there. He said he would let me know when he was planning to be back in LA and we could figure out a way to connect. 

FInally, about a month later, I noticed that his RM profile was active and that he was in SF.  I reached out to him to see how he was and mentioned that I saw him online.  I got a message back that he "was a professional and will handle it in the future" but that he was still sick.  He said he was in SF to attend his dad and stepmom's wedding (and I guess decided to update his location on his profile) and that it was probably his assistant who was online responding to messages.

It was at that point that I knew for sure that I would not be having a second session or seeing my pre-paid $$ again.

To my surprise, Jack reached out to me this past Saturday.  His message said, "Hi Steve.  I've been meaning to respond but had some work to do on myself.  I got sober and I'm in a much better place these days."

I responded and thanked him for responding to me and letting me know how he was doing.  I told him I didn't know he was dealing with sobriety issues and was glad to hear he was addressing them. I mentioned that if that had anything to do with the sickness he experienced when we met the last time I hope having a place to stay for a few days helped that that that was my gift to him.  I would do that for anyone I could.

I then asked if he was still seeing clients and if we could either set up a time to get together or if he would return the deposit.

His response was that he wanted to reach out and share something personal and that he wasn't expecting to talk about business.  He understood my perspective but, from his, it was a "discounted arrangement and the whole situation just wasn't good for either of us.  He then stated that because he has suggested Claude to me as a tool (5 minute conversation!) and basically implied I should consider the remainder a consulting fee. He said my "monitoring him online" made him uncomfortable (he was listed as a RM buddy and it showed that he was active....) and, as a result he wouldn't be seeing me again.

I am fine with that fact that I spent a lot of my resources taking care of a sick person (assuming he was genuinely sick) and I hope he does find sobriety.  But he took an additional 500 from me and doesn't feel any obligation to make it right.

Shame on me for that. But I am going to share this with others so they are educated about him.  One of the steps in recovery is holding oneself accountable for one's actions. Even just apologizing would have been a step.  He has a long way to go.

I have documentation of all these conversations and payments.  A part of me wants to send the link to this post to him.  But I realize I made the mistake of trusting him.  I will leave it here.

 

The writing in the wall was in large fonts. 

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