Froy & Gabriel - Visiting West Hollywood

[jeffla]

Has anybody by any chance seen these two hotties separately or together? (Yes, I know a few have seen them separately in other locations via this forum, but don't think I've seen any responses about the 4-hander in particular....)

They're both beautiful. Seem like really nice guys if the reviews on Rentmasseur are accurate, but I trust you guys here on this site the most! Hope someone may have experienced these two beauties.

Froy - Male Massage & Bodywork in Los Angeles, CA | RentMasseur

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Gay Masseur Froy in Los Angeles, CA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue.

Gabrielsp - Male Massage & Bodywork in Los Angeles, CA | RentMasseur

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Gay Masseur Gabrielsp in Los Angeles, CA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue.

 

Edited June 4, 2025 by jeffla

[Harryinny]

Gorgeous guys!

[Kevin Slate]

Bump

[+ glutes]

They quoted me $600/hour for 4 handed.  I passed.

That said, separately, they are awesome and trained.

[jeffla]

54 minutes ago, glutes said:

They quoted me $600/hour for 4 handed.  I passed.

That said, separately, they are awesome and trained.

They quoted $600 to me for 4-handed but for 90 minutes.... Our schedules just didn't work out, sadly.

They quoted $400 for 4-handed for 60 minutes.

[Kevin Slate]

16 hours ago, glutes said:

They quoted me $600/hour for 4 handed.  I passed.

That said, separately, they are awesome and trained.

When you say they are awesome separately, have you met with them or is that based on their profiles?  Has anyone here yet met with them?

[+ glutes]

I have seen them both in person, separately. Give full endorsement.

[Pierofj]

I received a very strange follow up from this provider about three months after meeting them. Froy Texted me as folllows:

“PayPal has confirmed that you received the service in full and then filed a chargeback, which resulted in financial damage to me.

Filing a chargeback after receiving the agreed service constitutes fraud. I have your contact information and records of the transaction and service provided.

If the amount of $815 USD is not returned immediately, I will proceed with legal action for fraud and unjust enrichment, including a formal report and small claims filing.

I am giving you the opportunity to resolve this directly before escalating.

Awaiting your response.”

I feel bad for them that this happened but I didn’t do this to them. I’ve never used pay pal before. I replied and they showed me the screen capture with chargeback info on it from PayPal and it was someone else but they insisted it was me who did it. After explaining that they have wrong person they followed up with the following messages:

 

“Understood.

I will stop contacting you.

Any further steps regarding this matter will be handled through formal channels based on the records I have.”

and 

“I’m glad my home has a smart door cam and I have everything recorded! ”

It is a very strange uncomfortable situation. Any advice or thoughts?

[BuzzLiteQueer]

IMHO, this is a big red flag to avoid them.  Sounds like a shakedown used against clients who are unwilling to stand up to them and state: No, you have the wrong guy.  That they continued to try to intimidate you after you explained you had not used Pay Pal and were not the guy who charged back is another bad sign.  Avoid!  Too bad, because they look hot!

[Pierofj]

It’s very disappointing and a huge breach of trust! The PayPal image showed the name in pay pal of the person who did the chargeback. So a major breach of trust and very inappropriate!

[Whippoorwill]

I doubt the communications are from Froy or Paypal at all...the whole thing smells like a scam to me. While not this particular scenario, I periodically get scam notices from purported companies and vendors that are complete inventions. Just don't answer.

[moonlight]

7 hours ago, Whippoorwill said:

I doubt the communications are from Froy or Paypal at all...the whole thing smells like a scam to me. While not this particular scenario, I periodically get scam notices from purported companies and vendors that are complete inventions. Just don't answer.

I'm skeptical it's not from the provider. The user received it from Froy's number and is a past client. That suggests it really is from the provider and not the usual bulk-scam message. Whether this is an honest mistake of mistaken identity on Froy's part or a deliberate extortion scam could be up for debate... my guess is that the provider made a mistake here in response to a real chargeback from someone else and is not realizing the error.

Edited to add: OP, I re-read the final message you received from him and it's not clear to me whether he realized the mistake or not. He could be saying, "oh, so it's not you..." with an offhand comment about having video and electronic records. Or he could be implying that he still think it's you but won't contact you at your number anymore. Hard to say. My guess is probably the former.

Edited yesterday at 04:31 AM by moonlight

[+ glutes]

Wow, after I gave Froy a (rare) Glutes endorsement.

I am surprised, and now a bit skeptical of him & partner Gabriel.

[Typical]

This sounds very much like a scam unrelated to the masseurs in question, one of whom I have met without incident. I get “PayPal” scam requests routinely and I haven’t used PayPal in over 15 years. A phone has been hacked. I would ignore, just like I ignore the sweet Nigerian lady who wants to send me $10 million if only I provide her with all my banking details and a $5,000 handling fee. 😂😂😂

I would not respond or worry myself. 

[starman05]

Yikes

 

i was just thinking of trying Froy

 

hesitant, now

[starman05]

The thing is if you pay in cash and walk out the door what’s to say they’re not gonna say to you later hey, you never paid
 

One time, a guy chased me into the lobby and said that the bills I’d given him were counterfeit  but they were just all brand new and stuck together from the ATM. I think I went and got him some replacement money. Fortunately, there have only been one or two weird incidences like that. 
 

 

[Pierofj]

13 hours ago, starman05 said:

Yikes

 

i was just thinking of trying Froy

 

hesitant, now

After this I’m not willing to endorse the guy. I did appreciate how organized and responsive he was keeping an appointment calendar and asking for a first name but it seems like that organization can backfire on you and can expose you to some weird shit like this. 

[jeffla]

I still have not seen Froy or his partner Gabrielsp, though I hope to one day.

I have no idea whether they're good guys or not, but they have so many great reviews... it seems they really work hard to provide their clients with a top-end massage as hoped for.

My point of view is informed because another provider, whom I'm friendly with, had this done to him... the client paid him via Paypal, and then once he left, filed a chargeback, leaving the provider with nothing.

What is the provider to do? They feel totally powerless, and worse than the loss of income is the disrespect and feeling of being used and made to feel worthless. 

I can understand how in such a position, the provider writes a note like Froy did, trying to maintain some perception of power in the situation. Let's be honest: They're not going to small claims court given too many questions could likely be asked about the services, etc., but they were taken advantage of and made to feel small, and so they responded in the heat of the situation as best as they could.

I'm assuming, based on the recipient's response here, that they mistook which client used the Paypal, so that's on them.

But I don't see this as an extortion effort, and if they were the type, they'd have many more negative comments here and on Rentmasseur from others who would find them to be shady characters. 

I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, outside of getting their clients mixed up.

That said, I always pay cash.....

[starman05]

5 hours ago, jeffla said:

I still have not seen Froy or his partner Gabrielsp, though I hope to one day.

I have no idea whether they're good guys or not, but they have so many great reviews... it seems they really work hard to provide their clients with a top-end massage as hoped for.

My point of view is informed because another provider, whom I'm friendly with, had this done to him... the client paid him via Paypal, and then once he left, filed a chargeback, leaving the provider with nothing.

What is the provider to do? They feel totally powerless, and worse than the loss of income is the disrespect and feeling of being used and made to feel worthless. 

I can understand how in such a position, the provider writes a note like Froy did, trying to maintain some perception of power in the situation. Let's be honest: They're not going to small claims court given too many questions could likely be asked about the services, etc., but they were taken advantage of and made to feel small, and so they responded in the heat of the situation as best as they could.

I'm assuming, based on the recipient's response here, that they mistook which client used the Paypal, so that's on them.

But I don't see this as an extortion effort, and if they were the type, they'd have many more negative comments here and on Rentmasseur from others who would find them to be shady characters. 

I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, outside of getting their clients mixed up.

That said, I always pay cash.....

I would think after this Froy and his partner would always insist on cash following that PayPal snafu

 

And again, what if you paid cash and then later got an email from them saying hey, we didn’t see the cash on the table.

 

I had a massage from a guy here and I felt really bad for him. He was down on his luck, so I included a tip and then he asked to count the money before I left, and I said sure, of course, and he was so grateful that there was a tip in there. I felt bad for him. 

 

maybe they could’ve raise their rates for another 20 or 30 bucks for the next 10 to 15 sessions and then lower them to make up for the money they lost or he lost

[NYCoolGuy]

I rarely step into public discussions, but in this case I believe a measured perspective is valuable.

 

I have been a client of Froy and Gabriel for several years and have engaged their services multiple times. My experiences have been consistently professional, discreet, well-organized, and conducted with a level of care that reflects serious business ethics.

 

When you work with providers over a long period of time, you develop a clear sense of their character and operational standards. For that reason, the claims being suggested here are fundamentally inconsistent with everything I and many other long-term clients have personally experienced.

 

Established professionals do not maintain strong reputations, loyal repeat clientele, and years of positive feedback by engaging in dishonest behavior. Longevity in a service business is rarely accidental.

 

It is also worth recognizing that payment disputes and chargebacks are not always a straightforward reflection of wrongdoing. Financial platforms frequently advise merchants not to discuss transaction details publicly, which means forum readers are almost never seeing the complete picture.

 

While I cannot speak to the specifics of a private interaction between other parties, I can speak with confidence about patterns and the pattern I have observed over the years is one of reliability, professionalism, and integrity.

 

I would strongly encourage readers to evaluate the broader reputation and long-term consistency of any business before forming conclusions based solely on a single online account.