Weird experience as a provider I had today.

[Gilfson]

1 minute ago, Luv2play said:

They call that spit and courage. In real life it can be a bit painful if the top is carrying a big one. 

Good thing I like pain too😜

[+ Pensant]

I can only imagine how bizarre some clients must be after hearing providers’ accounts. 

[+ Alabastrine]

sounds like there's lot of creepy experiences on both sides, both client and provider. @Gilfson your beastmuffin rentmen profile looks adorable. I hope you have better luck with clients soon. 

[Gilfson]

3 hours ago, Pensant said:

I can only imagine how bizarre some clients must be after hearing providers’ accounts. 

Your one of the good ones though😜

[marylander1940]

8 hours ago, Alabastrine said:

sounds like there's lot of creepy experiences on both sides, both client and provider. @Gilfson your beastmuffin rentmen profile looks adorable. I hope you have better luck with clients soon. 

actually, creepy experiences are uncommon, most clients/providers can tell something is off just by the exchange of text messages. Flakes, no shows, and time wasters are a common occurrence.

[marylander1940]

10 hours ago, Pensant said:

I can only imagine how bizarre some clients must be after hearing providers’ accounts. 

the guy who did this was likely to be an insecure out of shape man in his mother's basement having his daily adrenaline rush. 

[Gilfson]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

the guy who did this was likely to be an insecure out of shape man in his mother's basement having his daily adrenaline rush. 

I think this is the most common reason why he was probably masterbating to the idea of me coming over he freaks shoots his load then ghosts me lol

[marylander1940]

33 minutes ago, Gilfson said:

I think this is the most common reason why he was probably masterbating to the idea of me coming over he freaks shoots his load then ghosts me lol

His life sucks, yours doesn't!

[Simon Suraci]

On 5/20/2025 at 6:37 AM, Gilfson said:

I think this is the most common reason why he was probably masterbating to the idea of me coming over he freaks shoots his load then ghosts me lol

This happens to me from time to time. We do our best to sniff out the bad ones before it can get that far, but yeah. Sucks, but it happens.

[Bttmlover]

On 5/14/2025 at 12:36 PM, Bttmlover said:

I would be very careful with providers.  At the moment there are many providers working with police and ICE to lure and entrap.

I have to chuckle at your eye rolls and other emojis.  I tried that with the judge last week at sentencing and it didn’t go well. 

On 5/14/2025 at 12:36 PM, Bttmlover said:

 

[DunwoodyGuy]

Nice pics and ad, Beastmuffin. Welcome and good luck! One of many rules of thumb: Always trust your instincts when it comes to communication. If the chat to set up an appointment feels like it's getting weird or gnarly, odds are the appointment will be the same--or not happen at all. I'm not a provider, but as a massage client looking for erotic massage, I evaluate the tone and clarity of a provider's communications with me (allowing of course for anyone whose English is a second language). I ask a lot of questions but try to be respectful of the provider's time, because I know that some providers might think I'm just wasting their time jerking off. But if I sense anything like annoyance or hostility or any weird unprofessional requests (like you received from that client), I end the interaction and look elsewhere. Trust that instinct and walk away.

By the way, this thread has responses from three successful practitioners who are longtime contributors to this board--and each a phenomenally sexy man in his own right. Cultivate Jamie21, BenjaminNicholas, and Simon Suraci as mentors. Their accumated experience and wisdom could be invaluable to you.

[Chien Andalou]

On 5/14/2025 at 11:30 AM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Four posts and one massive conspiracy theory. 

Any proof for that claim?

Vice doesn't want clients. They never have. They go after street trade and the guys they see as also pushing drugs or pimping others.

Not exclusively. Here’s one in Oregon. SF used to have a special headquarters set up in the Tenderloin with fake street walkers to catch Johns. 
 

Multiple people arrested in sex trafficking sting

KATU.COM

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The Washington County Sheriff's Office and other agency partners have arrested seven people on Thursday after conducting an online sex...

 

[Simon Suraci]

8 hours ago, Chien Andalou said:

Not exclusively. Here’s one in Oregon. 

Please note this article discusses sex trafficking. Law enforcement is interested in stopping sex traffickers, as they should. In-person sex work services may be illegal, but not immoral. Nobody is getting hurt. Sex trafficking is both illegal and immoral. The real problem here: vulnerable people being taken advantage of, controlled, or compelled to work for the enrichment of the people trafficking them. That’s what we really want to stop. Not consenting adults engaging in commercial activity.

Most providers discussed on these forums work for themselves. They are not trafficking others nor being trafficked themselves. Accounts of sting operations in the M4M commercial sex space are quite rare. I can recall only a few anecdotes discussed on these forums to date. If we hear about these stories anywhere, it would be here.

[Luv2play]

On 5/16/2025 at 9:52 PM, Luv2play said:

They call that spit and courage. In real life it can be a bit painful if the top is carrying a big one. 

I tried this recently with a regular who is very experienced and also knows me by now and how my body reacts. So we tried this without lube early in the morning. I was on top so could manage the pace as he remained essentially passive, except having a raging morning wood. 
 

Miraculously there was no pain and within a few minutes we achieved a complete connection and my internal juices provided the necessary lubricant. Wonderful feeling. 

[MikePDNA51]

I love a big one.  depending on prep and how I feel will take water lube of spit.  There is excellent grip when cock enters ass than saliva dries.  Saliva usually tries fast making the friction between the ass and cock pleasure.  Top's cock is not exactly locked in place but has firm grip inside the bottom's hole. I do need poppers to start with getting pounded only with saliva as lube.  Need to practice more taking a dick without poppers. 

 

Water based lube is great also accomplishing similar thing as saliva. 

 

when I first started bottoming would only use silicone based lube.  When I top I use my saliva or water based lube.  Silicone lube is only good for very kinky