Queer

[Rod Hagen]

Watching Daniel Craig swap cum with his partner in this movie, my first thought was "He's the first James Bond to do that."   But then, duh, Roger Moore.

 

[Danny-Darko]

Now I'm interested in seeing this one! Curious about the story of how a senior gay American man picks up hot young men all over the world without having to pay them? Or maybe he does. I guess we'll have to see the movie. 

[pubic_assistance]

I admire Daniel Craig for doing his part to end homophobia.

He first teases us in Skyfall when James Bond questions Raul Silva (Javier Bardem) with the double entendre "what makes you think this is my first time"? ..as Silva has him captured and starts caressing him sensually.

Then ..after a successful career as one of the classic Bond men. The total man's man...he takes a role as a gay man and nails it. Such representation by respected straight (we assume) actors does more to change perceptions for the general public, about homosexuality than any bill from Congress, that attempts to tell us how we should think.

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I admire Daniel Craig for doing his part to end homophobia.

He first teases us in Skyfall when James Bond questions Raul Silva (Javier Bardem) with the double entendre "what makes you think this is my first time"? ..as Silva has him captured and starts caressing him sensually.

Then ..after a successful career as one of the classic Bond men. The total man's man...he takes a role as a gay man and nails it. Such representation by respected straight (we assume) actors does more to change perceptions for the general public, about homosexuality than any bill from Congress, that attempts to tell us how we should think.

It takes a lot to make a movie, and even more to make a gay one. I applaud any actor—especially a straight actor—who is willing to lend their name and talent to help get a gay movie greenlit and its story told.

(I’d also add his detective character from
Knives Out to that list.)

 

[dutchal]

Craig has played a gay part before, well before he was Bond:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119577/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is_the_Devil:_Study_for_a_Portrait_of_Francis_Bacon

 

[Rod Hagen]

2 hours ago, dutchal said:

Craig has played a gay part before, well before he was Bond:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119577/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is_the_Devil:_Study_for_a_Portrait_of_Francis_Bacon

 

I enjoyed Love is The Devil when it came out.  My memory is that Derek Jacobi catches Craig trying to rob him and condescendingly says, "You're not a very good burglar, are you?  Well, come to bed, and you can have anything you like in the morning."   :-)

[Peter Eater]

17 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

any bill from Congress, that attempts to tell us how we should think.

Uh, what bill from Congress tells us how to think about queers? Only the repressive ones. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Peter Eater said:

Uh, what bill from Congress tells us how to think about queers? Only the repressive ones. 

Can't discuss politics here. Sorry.

[Peter Eater]

8 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Can't discuss politics here. Sorry.

🤣🤪 You already did discuss politics here! 😝

Also, “Queer” is a political movie. It’s hard to talk about a political movie without discussing politics, but I suppose we could just focus on Daniel Craig’s jizz. Yum.

Edited December 11, 2024 by Peter Eater

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Peter Eater said:

You already did discuss politics here!

No. I made a single reference to the existence of policy. I didn't "discuss" it.  There's a difference. 

 

[TonyDown]

I am prepared to be underwhelmed by Guadagnino, as I always am.  Will wait to stream it and will wait to read anyone's opinions.

[Manhattan]

There is nothing political about this movie. 

Luca Guadagnino seems to like getting straight actors to fool around on camera. That's fine for him because he gets to see the whole thing on set,  while we only hear about how much they tamed down the scenes for release. It's not very interesting to me but it must be interesting to someone because there are lots of articles about Craig and Starkey filming gay scenes even though they are straight actors!
They also pretend to take Ayahuasca, but I guess that's just acting. 

A really boring, pretentious, unsatisfying movie. 

[d.anders]

I don't know anyone who loved it, but I intend to see it.

[samhexum]

Queer, starring Daniel Craig, will be available to stream exclusively on Max, beginning Friday, March 28

On 1/21/2025 at 6:51 AM, d.anders said:

I don't know anyone who loved it, but I intend to see it.

 

[TonyDown]

Streaming price dropped from 19.99 to 9.99.  

Nah...no thanks.  I'll wait.

[d.anders]

11 hours ago, samhexum said:

Queer, starring Daniel Craig, will be available to stream exclusively on Max, beginning Friday, March 28

Thanks for the head's up.

[shinj518]

On 1/5/2025 at 7:59 PM, Manhattan said:

A really boring, pretentious, unsatisfying movie. 

Saw this in the theaters with the hope that it would be a better experience on the big screen, but alas, i agree with the above assessment of the movie. 

The only positive for me was liking Drew Starkey more after seeing him in a role completely different from Outer Banks. And seeing some more skin, even if he was using a prosthetic.

[TonyDown]

I'm glad I waited until it streamed on Max. 

I didn't care much for the film.  Craig and Starkey were great, though.

Some critics loved it, so I expect it appeals to a certain audience.

 

[d.anders]

I finally saw it last night. What a disappointment. Now I know what my friends were talking about. Boring is an understatement. 

Perhaps the whole thing went over my head. Other than serious addictions, I have no idea what this film was about, or its connection to anything queer. None of it made any sense to me. The only moment I found sexy was when Drew Starkey came to the door naked in the dark.

I did not understand this relationship at all. Why would a young guy that good looking be interested in a heroin-addicted old man with dirty, ugly hands? There is no evidence he was motivated by money. Daniel Craig is looking rough, and in some of his drug/drunken scenes, he looks awful and behaves like a fool, as most gay drunks do. I just didn't find any of this nonsense compelling or even interesting. The ending, a complete dud. WTF?

At least I got through the whole thing, unlike with Suspiria. Not sure about Luca Guadagnino anymore. Why on earth would these actors want to make this film? What was it about this story that needed to be told? I wish I could hear Luca's sales pitch to the lead actors.

What happened to Jason Schwartzman? He used to be so cute. Was he wearing a fat suit? I didn't get any of the other players, and the dialogue went over my head. I need to read more about it to see what I missed. I doubt I could ever sit through it again.

[Njguy2]

Tried to keep an open mind as I watched it - but at times I thought - where is this going?  Definitely glad I didn't pay to see this in a theater.  Ayahuasca seemed to be akin to LSD.   Daniel Craig's character search for something beyond heroin found it in the jungle plant.  William Burroughs definitely had a different life experience to be able to write this. 

[d.anders]

Drew Starkey claims he wore a prosthetic for his nudes scenes. I wonder why? He's barely seen full-frontal, and the scene where it happens is quite dark. It happens so fast. Why would a young male actor care about this? I guess I can't blame anyone for wanting to keep their private parts private. But that's no fun.

This photo from the film has been lightened. The actual scene is much darker. In the movie, you can't even see Starkey's face. They could have used a nude double, and no one would have known. I don't get it. At least someone in make-up gets the thrill of gluing the damn thing on and taking it off.

Truth be told, I didn't enjoy any of the sex scenes in this film. All I could think about was their awful breath and Daniel Craig's ugly man-hands. Starkey is pretty though. He reminded me of a former college boyfriend, without the eyeglasses. Fond memories.

[Rod Hagen]

On 4/1/2025 at 7:15 AM, d.anders said:

Why would a young guy that good looking be interested in a heroin-addicted old man with dirty, ugly hands? There is no evidence he was motivated by money. Daniel Craig is looking rough, and in some of his drug/drunken scenes, he looks awful and behaves like a fool, as most gay drunks do. I just didn't find any of this nonsense compelling or even interesting. The ending, a complete dud. WTF?

At least I got through the whole thing, unlike with Suspiria. Not sure about Luca Guadagnino anymore. Why on earth would these actors want to make this film? What was it about this story that needed to be told?

Guys are attracted to other guys for things other than looks or money.  Sometimes it's fun to fuck someone who's a total trainWreck.  But your last sentence is spot on.  How did this movie get made?  Luca probably read the screenplay, written by the guy he worked with on Challengers (a good movie) then the book, on a flight b/w Rome and LA, and got some harebrained idea to make it.   I'm guessing the actors did it for nearly nothing just because it looked like "Challengers" was going to do well and they wanted to tag along, but how did he convince investors to invest in a movie based on a bad book by an overpraised author written decades ago and adapted by a man with only one other credit ?  I do not know.  Force of will?  Oh well.  Maybe he got Daniel Craig attached to the script at the very beginning.  That might do it.

I hope people didn't see this movie because I made the original post.  I guess in the original post after my snide remark about Roger Moore being closeted and presumably a bit kinky, I should have said the movie wasn't good.  My bad.

 

I do recommend people see I am Love and A Bigger Splash (I think they are both streaming on Kanopy)

 

 

Edited May 24 by Rod Hagen

[d.anders]

5 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

Guys are attracted to other guys for things other than looks or money.

I think that must be true, but it hasn't been my experience. Attraction has always unsettled me.

OK, if it's not looks or money, tell that deeper story. As a gay man, I would love to see it. This was not that film.

5 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

Sometimes it's fun to fuck someone who's a total trainWreck.

I get that. Been there, done that. But let me discover the thought process. Put some meat on the bones when opposites attract and act.

5 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

How did this movie get made?  Luca probably read the screenplay,

I did see a few interviews, but they were not easy to sit through. Luca's been a longtime fan of the book, and wanted to make the movie for a long time. I was not familiar with William S. Burroughs before seeing the film. Watching this film did not make me more curious. When I learned that Craig's character in the book is based on Burroughs' life, I became less interested.