Hurricane Milton

[Discreetguy2020]

Just on the hurricane point, several major carriers are reducing the number of policies they will write for home owners coverage in places that get hurricanes after Katrina and Harvey. Not just for beach front but also for places like Houston that are a decent way in and get some damage sometimes and only devastating damage periodically.  

[+ azdr0710]

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too soon?......

 

 

Edited October 11, 2024 by azdr0710

[TallMuscl37]

3 hours ago, PhileasFogg said:

Personally, I’m glad to be in the south.  Winter storms may not provide damage but they provide misery.  And while coastal areas may have high insurance rates (as of tomorrow, I’ll own three houses in the gulf coast), the harsh northern climes are prone to higher taxes to deal with the miserable winters.

Of note - newer constructed properties tend to be elevated to avoid flooding.  It’s the older properties at risk and with each event, they tend to be rebuilt to current codes. It works out over time because humans are resilient and resourceful. 
 

Tomayto Tomahto.   I’m glad you like where you are. 

Yes, when I lived in South Orlando: the neighborhood my folks lived didn’t have floods as there was a lot of drainage creeks around. Idk how it fared in the hurricane though. Those creeks would occasionally get close to the road but I never seen them flood over.

Also, when they build the homes: they layer up like a ton of sand before the foundation is laid. So the house sits higher than the actual ground level. 

 

3 hours ago, Luv2play said:

It’s obvious we differ on what misery is but I think it means having your house tumble down around your ears. Having to plow out the driveway pales by comparison. 

Idk, winter is still bad. I’ve felt my normally solid heavy vehicle, feel like a feather on icy roads. The number of accidents especially in places where people have no idea how to drive in the snow: can be insane.

The salt water flooding that is happening to coastal homes, happens every winter in the Midwest: in the form of de-icing. It’s hard on vehicles and roads. Especially Minneapolis, Detroit, Buffalo, etc. with wet snow. Not as much an issue in Denver and other cities with dry snow. Frost bite or falling on ice is also no joke either. 

I don’t think one is better than the other, it’s more of: which is the one most willing to tolerate? Of course, it’s easier to prepare and work around winter, than a sudden hurricane or tornado: by just staying home in the day it snows and the first 2 days after. But even when it melts, black ice still poses a hazard for days on end, as I’ve seen many times.
 

1 hour ago, Discreetguy2020 said:

Just on the hurricane point, several major carriers are reducing the number of policies they will write for home owners coverage in places that get hurricanes after Katrina and Harvey. Not just for beach front but also for places like Houston that are a decent way in and get some damage sometimes and only devastating damage periodically.  

I think it’s the weather and the fraud that follows.

I think eventually they’re going to have to figure out a different insurance strategy all together. Probably will be something sinister like adding a tax into groceries, gas and clothing, along with vehicle registration, and calling it  “Florida insurance tax”. But I doubt the state can survive by dropping policies or raising prices to astronomical levels.

Edited October 11, 2024 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ PhileasFogg]

9 hours ago, Luv2play said:

It’s obvious we differ on what misery is but I think it means having your house tumble down around your ears. Having to plow out the driveway pales by comparison. 

I understand, but do ponder this final thought.   While many are inconvenienced, far far fewer are actually harmed or suffer major property damage.  The media focuses on the hard hit area.  But usually it’s just a convenience store canopy (big deal) blown on the ground or flooded streets that are in a flood plain anyway.  

I just did a quick (and perhaps unreliable) google search, and it seems that the average number of US hurricane deaths are about half that of blizzard deaths.   At least both storms usually  allow ample time to prepare

[+ sync]

It is going to be more than interesting to observe future storm activity.

It must have been fifteen years ago I saw/heard a young meteorologist speaking on television.  His message was that we had dragged our feet for too long before effectively addressing climate change.  He believed it to be too late to do anything.  Then he was suddenly gone.  

I spent a lot of time since then hunting on the internet for some evidence of the guy, but I haven't been able to find anything.  My paranoia has fueled my suspicion that he was "advised" against advancing his theory. 

 

[56harrisond]

Florida’s home insurer of last resort is in serious trouble. Will Milton put it over the edge?

Florida’s home insurer of last resort is in serious trouble. Will Milton put it over the edge? | CNN Business

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Even before Hurricane Helene and Milton made landfall in Florida, many homeowners were between rock and a hard place...

 

[marylander1940]

People are NOT being forced to get the Covid-19 vaccine in order to receive any kind of aid (cash, medicines, boots, water, tree removal, road clearing, etc.) and their property won't be confiscated to mine lithium, etc.

If you guys know anyone in the affected area, make sure he's aware of that.

[+ PhileasFogg]

22 hours ago, sync said:

It is going to be more than interesting to observe future storm activity.

It must have been fifteen years ago I saw/heard a young meteorologist speaking on television.  His message was that we had dragged our feet for too long before effectively addressing climate change.  He believed it to be too late to do anything.  Then he was suddenly gone.  

I spent a lot of time since then hunting on the internet for some evidence of the guy, but I haven't been able to find anything.  My paranoia has fueled my suspicion that he was "advised" against advancing his theory. 

 

It is interesting to think he was silenced.   Of course, his theory disregards the fact that hurricanes existed long before people, the most active recorded year for Florida hurricanes was 1947, and the largest one on record was in the 30’s - all before discussion or concern about global warming.  

Edited October 12, 2024 by PhileasFogg

[TonyDown]

23 hours ago, sync said:

It is going to be more than interesting to observe future storm activity.

It must have been fifteen years ago I saw/heard a young meteorologist speaking on television.  His message was that we had dragged our feet for too long before effectively addressing climate change.  He believed it to be too late to do anything.  Then he was suddenly gone.  

I spent a lot of time since then hunting on the internet for some evidence of the guy, but I haven't been able to find anything.  My paranoia has fueled my suspicion that he was "advised" against advancing his theory. 

 

Not long ago, back home, a TV meteorologist received death threats for discussing climate change on Air.  He left his job and moved away.

Yet folks seem willing to believe conspiracies that our Government can cause hurricanes.

SMH

[marylander1940]

20 minutes ago, TonyDown said:

Not long ago, back home, a TV meteorologist received death threats for discussing climate change on Air.  He left his job and moved away.

Yet folks seem willing to believe conspiracies that our Government can cause hurricanes.

SMH

Not only the government but George Soros, etc

Fucked up!

[+ sync]

9 hours ago, PhileasFogg said:

It is interesting to think he was silenced.   Of course, his theory disregards the fact that hurricanes existed long before people, the most active recorded year for Florida hurricanes was 1947, and the largest one on record was in the 30’s - all before discussion or concern about global warming.  

I see your point, but the meteorologist to whom I am referring went way farther than only hurricanes.

[+ PhileasFogg]

Interesting story about a net zero storm proof neighborhood

 

Helene and Milton put this net-zero, hurricane-proof community to the test. The lights stayed on as everything else went dark | CNN

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While the newly developed storm-proof homes have endured a few storms since people moved in last year, Hurricanes Helene and Milton put those features to...

 

[+ Cash4Trash]

Exxon Mobil cimatel research from the 70's and long concealed from the public. 

1) 1 degree C temperature rise by 2005 - barely noticeable.

2) 2.5 C temperature rise by 2038. Major economic consequences , strong regional dependence. 

3) 5.0 C temperature rise by 2067 Globally catastrophic effects. 

From Common Ground at Georgetown University.  

 

[Luv2play]

My nephew has now returned from Europe and learned that his condo on Longboat Key has no power or a/c. The hvac unit blew off the roof. There was some water damage but the building with its hurricane windows recently installed was relatively unscathed. 
He is staying in Atlanta until the place is inhabitable since he is on the 6th and top floor with no elevator service. His major damage was to his two destroyed cars but that was caused by the storm surge of Helene. 

[Becket]

On 10/10/2024 at 12:42 AM, BuffaloKyle said:

Roof at Tropicana Field sustains major damage from Hurricane Milton - ESPN

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The roof at Tropicana Field, the home of the Tampa Bay Rays, sustained major damage because of high winds associated with Hurricane Milton, which made landfall...

 

Been there several times. The new look is an improvement.!