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[Kuro]

Wondering if anyone has met him, or have any experience? I’ve only texted with him briefly, seemed friendly.

Any input appreciated!

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[BeefyDude]

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[56harrisond]

[dutchal]

On 5/26/2025 at 6:15 PM, 56harrisond said:

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[savantsav]

He's friendly, I'd say his massage rate is quite high and in his message he says "... with mutual touch, nudity and whatever I feel is within the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with..." meaning, if you probably unattractive or similar nothing much will happen, even at the high rate quoted for a massage.

[JeffsterLA]

On 7/1/2025 at 10:05 AM, savantsav said:

He's friendly, I'd say his massage rate is quite high and in his message he says "... with mutual touch, nudity and whatever I feel is within the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with..." meaning, if you probably unattractive or similar nothing much will happen, even at the high rate quoted for a massage.

This was a similar experience I had with him, but I didn’t actually meet him. He quoted me sky high rates. He offered deli I think at $400-600. I told him his rates were all too high. He was very rude and arrogant with me. I don’t understand all the rave reviews about him. Honestly I think he is quite a whore and I would definitely play safe with him if it goes there. He’s on OF and X, etc. 

[+ azdr0710]

5 hours ago, JeffsterLA said:

 I told him his rates were all too high.       Honestly I think he is quite a whore 

sometimes we reap what we sow.......

[JeffsterLA]

Well in this case, for the reading impaired and poorly educated, I told him his rates were too high after he told me what they are. I never called him a whore.  I just think he is based on what I know and have seen after-the-fact. Thus, obviously I couldn’t have “reaped what I sowed” when the reaping occurred first, genius. 

Incidentally, ellipses after a sentence to signify continuation of a sentence or thought consist of only 3 or 4 dots. You don’t have to type 7-8 dots.   

 

Edited July 15 by JeffsterLA

[dutchal]

7 hours ago, JeffsterLA said:

Well in this case, for the reading impaired and poorly educated, I told him his rates were too high after he told me what they are. I never called him a whore.  I just think he is based on what I know and have seen after-the-fact. Thus, obviously I couldn’t have “reaped what I sowed” when the reaping occurred first, genius. 

Incidentally, ellipses after a sentence to signify continuation of a sentence or thought consist of only three dots. You don’t have to type 7-8 dots.   

 

Technically, an ellipsis in the middle of a sentence should be three dots, while one at the end should be four, which includes the terminal period.

[JeffsterLA]

1 minute ago, dutchal said:

Technically, an ellipsis in the middle of a sentence should be three dots, while one at the end should be four, which includes the terminal period.

This is true! Thank you. I corrected my post. 

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, dutchal said:

Technically, an ellipsis in the middle of a sentence should be three dots, while one at the end should be four, which includes the terminal period.

You are speaking my language. I would blow you right now. 

[dutchal]

4 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

You are speaking my language. I would blow you right now. 

And now you speaking my language!

[savantsav]

I’ve found saying ‘Thanks for the reply however that’s way above my usual budget of X. I appreciate your response and I hope you have a fantastic day’ to be VERY effective at negotiating rates. You never want to tell them their rate is too high because they’ll feel you’re offending their self worth. My response says what my budget is for it and that I’m moving on while wishing them a good day. 

[Mymymy]

On 7/14/2025 at 1:44 PM, JeffsterLA said:

This was a similar experience I had with him, but I didn’t actually meet him. He quoted me sky high rates. He offered deli I think at $400-600. I told him his rates were all too high. He was very rude and arrogant with me. I don’t understand all the rave reviews about him. Honestly I think he is quite a whore and I would definitely play safe with him if it goes there. He’s on OF and X, etc. 

Robert here. My 60-minute massage rate has never been $400–$600. If that is your claim, it is false and misrepresents my work and my professionalism.

You’ve never met me, yet you’re telling people to “play it safe.” Play it safe from what, exactly? I have consistent “rave reviews” from clients who value professionalism, respect, and connection. Your post reflects the opposite of all of that, and says more about you than it does about me or my services. 

I’ve built strong, genuine relationships with people who approach me with kindness and respect. If someone ignores boundaries or speaks to me unprofessionally, I match that energy when I choose to engage. Few and far between. 

Providers (or “whores,” as you so crudely put it) talk. We share information about people who treat us poorly(case in point). Before you post a baseless, blanket statement, take a moment to reflect and take accountability for your actions. Better yet, before you ever reach out to any provider, work on your communication skills so you can avoid these negative interactions and harm someone’s ability to earn a living.

Take a moment to review your own tone, your approach, and the facts.

🙏😊❤️

[savantsav]

Welcome to the forum! We always love to hear from providers here @Mymymy. I'm not the person who you're replying to, I found you very friendly but could you please clarify what you mean with "... with mutual touch, nudity and whatever I feel is within the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with..."? Consent is obviously important, but it would help to clarify this in case a client is particularly paying your premium rate expecting a service that you might not provide them. TBH Is what stopped me from booking.

[Mymymy]

38 minutes ago, savantsav said:

Welcome to the forum! We always love to hear from providers here @Mymymy. I'm not the person who you're replying to, I found you very friendly but could you please clarify what you mean with "... with mutual touch, nudity and whatever I feel is within the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with..."? Consent is obviously important, but it would help to clarify this in case a client is particularly paying your premium rate expecting a service that you might not provide them. TBH Is what stopped me from booking.

Sure thing.  As you’re aware, my interactions start through text when scheduling an appointment, so I’m meeting someone new, often going in blind and in a pretty vulnerable position. I’m quite literally putting all of myself out there for the world to see, within a neat package that still leaves me very human and exposed. There are a lot of factors that influence comfort and connection: mutual respect, communication, hygiene, energy, chemistry, personality, emotional awareness, and even things like anxiety or social comfort.

Believe it or not, about four out of five messages providers receive are from people who just want to chat, get off, or waste our time, forgetting there’s a real human being on the other end with emotions, feelings, and limits. Some of us are better equipped than others to handle that constant noise, so crafting a broad message that’s both clear and boundaried helps me filter, save time, and protect my mental well-being from people who approach selfishly or without respect. It’s very real.

When I say “within the boundaries of what I’m comfortable with,” I mean exactly that. I read the energy in the room and move at a pace that feels safe and natural for both people. Every experience is different, and my main goal is to create a space where both people feel respected, at ease, and able to just be themselves.

As a provider, I’m also giving something of myself in every session. I gain something from each experience too, whether it’s connection, insight, or shared energy. To continue showing up authentically, I have to be true and honest with myself so I can give without ever feeling like I’m compromising my integrity, morals, or self-respect.

It’s never about expectation; it’s about genuine connection and comfort for both of us.

…That’s was a lot. Hope this helps clarify. 😊

[savantsav]

Very clear yes! Appreciate your response and I know you’re a good guy as we frequent some of the same spaces and have people in common, so ignore the haters. 
 

If I may suggest something.  The ambiguity in “something might happen or not” might lead to confusion and misunderstandings. May I suggest maybe offer a therapeutic massage first to new clients and from there check the vibes and offer (or not) extra services to that client in future ocassions. 260 for an incall massage where extras might not happen could lead to some nasty situations and misunderstandings. 

[Mymymy]

25 minutes ago, savantsav said:

Very clear yes! Appreciate your response and I know you’re a good guy as we frequent some of the same spaces and have people in common, so ignore the haters. 
 

If I may suggest something.  The ambiguity in “something might happen or not” might lead to confusion and misunderstandings. May I suggest maybe offer a therapeutic massage first to new clients and from there check the vibes and offer (or not) extra services to that client in future ocassions. 260 for an incall massage where extras might not happen could lead to some nasty situations and misunderstandings. 

Very kind, thank you 🥰🫂

I get what you’re saying, and I appreciate the feedback.

For clarity, about 95% of the time there’s a baseline of services provided at my listed rate. How that’s navigated depends on the factors I mentioned above. 

I’ve had extensive conversations with other providers(masseurs, escorts, adult performers, spa professionals, etc.), and I feel the hourly rate I’ve chosen accurately reflects that shared standard.

I’m not much of an “upsell” or “retail salesman” type of guy. I find that approach can feel misleading, transactional, and honestly makes me uncomfortable. It pulls me out of the moment and subtracts from the already limited time I get to share with someone. Most of the guys I consider my peers or have tiered myself into who happen to take that upsell approach often end up in the same overall rate bracket that I offer anyway…with exceptions of course.

[savantsav]

Yes of course and the rate is within market, I was talking more about the uncertainty of paying for a service that might not happen. If the vibe is not there do you still charge the full rate?

[Yoyohey]

Just to say — I went to Robert once for a massage and he was awesome.