Webcam Modelling Question

[muscles44]

Hi Guys,

I'm curious about potentially starting webcam. I like to watch chaturbate sometimes but unsure of the earning potential. I notice women and couples get significantly more viewers than men. I would imagine though satisfying the muscle niche could lead to some high paying clients. I have a pretty solid physique and looking for other ways to maximize my income. Wondering if you guys have any insight into what guys make or any thoughts on a platform to use other than chaturbate. Appreciate any feedback. Thanks

[viewing ownly]

A solid physique will put you in the top 50% of viewers. You're competing against a large swath of guys. Think of something unique that isn't being done by everybody else, which is easier typed than done. Something I thought up was to be tipped 2 tokens to throw away a piece of trash. This way, they're seeing my body in motion, and I'm at least getting a mini-fraction of revenue (in addition to a cleaner area)!

Truthfully, with a man it's all about the cock. Average-sized or small ones aren't going to make squat. The only exception is duo male cam dudes, but for whatever reason Colombia seems to have a Walmart sized niche on that for the time being. I'm wondering what makes more revenue in their country nowadays, coffee or naked guys. 

[muscles44]

1 hour ago, viewing ownly said:

A solid physique will put you in the top 50% of viewers. You're competing against a large swath of guys. Think of something unique that isn't being done by everybody else, which is easier typed than done. Something I thought up was to be tipped 2 tokens to throw away a piece of trash. This way, they're seeing my body in motion, and I'm at least getting a mini-fraction of revenue (in addition to a cleaner area)!

Truthfully, with a man it's all about the cock. Average-sized or small ones aren't going to make squat. The only exception is duo male cam dudes, but for whatever reason Colombia seems to have a Walmart sized niche on that for the time being. I'm wondering what makes more revenue in their country nowadays, coffee or naked guys. 

Well I'm being very modest. I have a top 5% or better physique from what I've seen online. I've done adult content so I definitely look the part. Always been curious about webcam but unsure if the hourly pay will be worthwhile to me.

[viewing ownly]

If you've done adult content, that isn't necessarily an automatic that you'll be successful. I've seen former porn stars languishing with just a very small handful of viewers, and I feel kind of bad for them. 

It is a complete crapshoot with being successful, and there really is no rhyme or reason why certain people excel while others try it and bail. My favorite couple were mixed race bodybuilders out of Florida. One was cut, the other was uncut. They were verse, and had upbeat attitudes. Unless you're self-employed, it is difficult to work any kind of job with other people if you do web cam. Even the stuffiest of the stuffy occupations have employees with ribald free time. 

[56harrisond]

The more followers on social media the better, IG, Twitter, Snap, TicTok, Reddit etc. If you have that, then you have a way to promote your content. 

[soloyo215]

Not an expert, but as a consumer, I'd suggest to think about what makes people interested. A great physique does help, but I've left or stoipped watching guys with great physiques that are boring as hell. The physique is only one aspect of engaging the audience. Audiences nowadays have the attention span of a gold fish, so catching their attention mihg require more than just looking good.

I'm not sure I agree with it all being "about the cock" only. Yes, it's as good and important, but the same thing that happens with the physique, a great cock that does nothing can get boring. Then there are the ass-liking people, some of which are quite thrilled by that more than penis.

Just my thoughts, not law.

[RyanDean]

Let us know when you launch, @muscles44!

And, yes, the cross-promotional presence between platforms seems key. One strategy that might be worth exploring might be to link your streaming to an OnlyFans profile. I've seen some content creators do well by hosting live Chaturbate shows, requiring pay-in to view on CB, which they either stream live on OF or repost later on OF as content. Indeed, it seems increasingly rare for successful CBers to NOT also have an OF.

[muscles44]

10 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

If you've done adult content, that isn't necessarily an automatic that you'll be successful. I've seen former porn stars languishing with just a very small handful of viewers, and I feel kind of bad for them. 

It is a complete crapshoot with being successful, and there really is no rhyme or reason why certain people excel while others try it and bail. My favorite couple were mixed race bodybuilders out of Florida. One was cut, the other was uncut. They were verse, and had upbeat attitudes. Unless you're self-employed, it is difficult to work any kind of job with other people if you do web cam. Even the stuffiest of the stuffy occupations have employees with ribald free time. 

Yeah I agree. From what I observe it doesn't seem like most guys are making much money but hard to tell exactly. I'm self-employed so no issues with bosses finding out etc

 

1 hour ago, soloyo215 said:

Not an expert, but as a consumer, I'd suggest to think about what makes people interested. A great physique does help, but I've left or stoipped watching guys with great physiques that are boring as hell. The physique is only one aspect of engaging the audience. Audiences nowadays have the attention span of a gold fish, so catching their attention mihg require more than just looking good.

I'm not sure I agree with it all being "about the cock" only. Yes, it's as good and important, but the same thing that happens with the physique, a great cock that does nothing can get boring. Then there are the ass-liking people, some of which are quite thrilled by that more than penis.

Just my thoughts, not law.

 

I watch a girl on CB that doesn't get nude but engages with the chat really well and has a great personality. She's new and seems to do great. I know its mostly a personality thing. I definitely have a big ass lol so that can help but wouldn't want to put anything up it.

8 minutes ago, RyanDean said:

Let us know when you launch, @muscles44!

And, yes, the cross-promotional presence between platforms seems key. One strategy that might be worth exploring might be to link your streaming to an OnlyFans profile. I've seen some content creators do well by hosting live Chaturbate shows, requiring pay-in to view on CB, which they either stream live on OF or repost later on OF as content. Indeed, it seems increasingly rare for successful CBers to NOT also have an OF.

Thanks I took down my twitter/OF a while ago but would bring it back. I know on chaturbate all the shows get recorded and posted online. So I was thinking to not show face on stream but then show it on OF. I'm definitely not comfortable showing face for the world to see especially with the amount of non-tippers. I met a guy once that does streamate and likes it cause its more private than CB. So maybe a smaller platform could be better for me.

[RyanDean]

@muscles44 - definitely find the mode and platform that's right for you. I do think being forthright about the kind of interaction you're offering is key. And if you're game to do the MaleThingsWorn thing, that might be another generative revenue stream.

[+ azdr0710]

I can offer that a provider (escort) I meet with who has an OF says he wishes he had started up social media first, before his OF, to get a following developed.......

I'm sure there's a ton of stuff around about how to maximize your OF income.....hiring a handler......the whole "collab" thing......promoting each other.......

will need to give it many hours a week, too......don't go into debt!!

 

[BuffaloKyle]

7 hours ago, muscles44 said:

I know on chaturbate all the shows get recorded and posted online. So I was thinking to not show face on stream but then show it on OF. I'm definitely not comfortable showing face for the world to see especially with the amount of non-tippers. I met a guy once that does streamate and likes it cause its more private than CB. So maybe a smaller platform could be better for me.

Just a friendly heads up that if you won't show face that will bring down your potential earnings. Possibly just show it in pvt shows then.

[nate_sf]

I do webcam shows from time to time. For me, it's more for kicks than money. The money doesn't compare to escort income, at least for me. But I like the interaction, and a little extra cash doesn't hurt. I'm not a muscle stud, so someone with a real solid physique might do better.

Interaction with the viewers seems to be important, as does being fully naked. People will drop off pretty quickly if the model is not engaging. I don't know how well or not it would work if you're not showing your face, but you could give it a try.

Each show can go in a different direction. In one show the viewers will all be about cock, the next one they're all about ass. Recently I tried my first show with a Lovense toy, and that brought in a lot of tips and was really fun.

I'm mostly on Stripchat now. Tips on Chaturbate just weren't coming in as much as they used to, but Stripchat does pretty well. I also like the user interface of Stripchat better, and there are a lot of features. They have an option where you can be in "Flirting Mode" which means no nudity, but it can lead to private shows which is where the money can be made. Apparently there are also ways to broadcast on multiple platforms simultaneously, but I haven't figured that one out.

There's a forum for webcam models at https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/. It's mostly oriented towards women performers, though there are a few guys there too. Lots of good information there and it can be pretty amusing. But those gals don't suffer fools, that's for sure! They'll give you straight answers.

Seems like to make good money, you have to be broadcasting for a long time in each show, and on a regular basis. Check some of the guys who are doing well with tips, then see how long they have been online to get a sense of what it would take.

With all that said, I'd say just give it a go and see if you like it.

[BaronArtz]

I did discover the cam world during COVID when escorts were not available.  

I learned from models that I got to know a bit that it is a very hard way to make a living.  The site takes 50% of the fees and if you work for a studio, the studio takes another 25%.  The guys are lucky to make $400-500 a week.  Most of the cam guys tend to come from countries with limited job opportunities like Colombia or Romania.  You almost never see guys from the USA or Europe there.   

As Nate mentioned, the income you make does not even begin to compare to escorting.  

I would not recommend it as a career.

Edited May 11 by BaronArtz

[Whatsupandstuff]

my delving into the cam world started during Covid as well.. Wasn't aware of the commissions these guys had to pay..thats awful 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

That you said webcam and not OnlyFans tells me that you might not understand where the market is at right now.

You do private videos for big(ish) bucks once you have a following.  That can also go for customers who buy used clothing.

Until then, it's the grind of building up a strong social media presence, fielding private messages and figuring out your niche in the industry.

Most OF creators don't make good money because they don't have the business sense, nor editing skills to keep new content coming on a near-daily basis.  Guys with their dick in their hand get bored quickly.  They can now find free, quality content almost anywhere.

Not saying you shouldn't try it, but go in with very low expectations.  The days of guys easily earning $100k a year from OF are long gone, as the platform is now saturated and the real earners are the guys who were with it from the beginning.

[maninsoma]

25 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

That you said webcam and not OnlyFans tells me that you might not understand where the market is at right now.

You do private videos for big(ish) bucks once you have a following.  That can also go for customers who buy used clothing.

Until then, it's the grind of building up a strong social media presence, fielding private messages and figuring out your niche in the industry.

Most OF creators don't make good money because they don't have the business sense, nor editing skills to keep new content coming on a near-daily basis.  Guys with their dick in their hand get bored quickly.  They can now find free, quality content almost anywhere.

Not saying you shouldn't try it, but go in with very low expectations.  The days of guys easily earning $100k a year from OF are long gone, as the platform is now saturated and the real earners are the guys who were with it from the beginning.

I agree 100% with the part of your post I bolded (not that I disagree with the rest).  As a consumer, I can tell you that 99% of the men to which I've subscribed only got one subscription period from me because (a) their frequency of posting was low and/or (b) the quality of their content was low.  In fact, I'd say that most of them shouldn't even be charging for what they are offering since a lot of them don't share much beyond brief clips leading to offers to purchase full scenes for an additional cost.  Why would I pay $10/month to see someone advertise?  At the very least, put some worthwhile content on the page in addition to the offers to pay for additional content.  And a lot of guys need to check out a quality content provider like Rhyheim Shabazz to see how content should be recorded and edited.  Putting up a phone on a tripod by your bed just doesn't cut it.

As to not showing a face, I agree with some others that that would cause some guys to lose interest.  I generally want to see someone's face.  One exception I have is a Japanese guy whose OF page is free, for whatever reason, and he posts a few full length videos of him massaging and fucking men every month.  He's got a very hot body and I imagine that I'd like his face if I saw it.  If he charged to subscribe to his page, I would have unsubscribed after the first month because of him not showing his face.

Edited May 11 by maninsoma

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

19 minutes ago, maninsoma said:

And a lot of guys need to check out a quality content provider like Rhyheim Shabazz to see how content should be recorded and edited. 

Putting up a phone on a tripod by your bed just doesn't cut it.

I would agree that Shabazz is the gold-standard of production value and social media engagement.

And that costs money....  A good deal of it, actually.  He's got a whole team keeping that machine running so smoothly.