marylander1940 Posted February 21, 2024 Posted February 21, 2024 Netflix Criticized For ‘Queering’ Alexander The Great—But Historians Say Today’s Definition Of Gay Can’t Be Applied To Ancient Greece WWW.FORBES.COM A Netflix docuseries portrays Alexander the Great as having had same-sex relations, which experts say is possible based on historical evidence—but they say he... OP note: there's clear evidence he was gay or at least bi.... just like everyone else in ancient Greece at the time!
samhexum Posted February 21, 2024 Posted February 21, 2024 25 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: OP note: there's clear evidence he was gay or at least bi.... just like everyone else in ancient Greece at the time! How old do you want to live to be? Not so old that I forget I drew the same comic strip 6 weeks apart... Or posted the same topic one year apart. I miss @avalon. marylander1940 1
+ Cash4Trash Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 Personal relationships of Alexander the Great - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG I've read two biographies of Alexander and everything Plutarch wrote about him. His lack of interest in women is well documented. He also adopted "Persian ways" (effeminate) when in Persia. Hephaestion's funeral lasted 7 days and would put RuPaul to shame.
SirBillybob Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 I binged on the series last week during long flights abroad. We’ll have to wait to see how fabulous any artefacts that emerge from the meticulous Alexandria dig appear.
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 21, 2024 Posted April 21, 2024 I've read quite a few books on Alexander too, as well as other documentaries, and he was either gay or on the gay end of bi. He definitely had a romantic relationship with his best friend Hephaestion - he went apeship when Hephaestion died (the funeral mentioned above was so big even some modern historians were confused on why he did it), and drank himself to death shortly afterwards. And yes, Richard the Lionhearted was probably gay, and Frederick the Great wrote himself that he was. Then again, these conquerors weren't always shining examples of humanity. + augustus 1
pubic_assistance Posted April 22, 2024 Posted April 22, 2024 19 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: I've read quite a few books on Alexander too, as well as other documentaries, and he was either gay or on the gay end of bi If you're a fan of classical Greek history, then you should realize that this concept of "gay" / bi and "straight" didn't exist 2400 years ago. Human sexuality was merely accepted as fluid and people had relationships outside of marriage ( which was a PROPERTY RIGHTS contract...not a love bond) all the time. Alexander the Great was most likely "gender blind" which is the state of sexuality where by you fall in love with the PERSON not the PARTS. Being an army man, his time was spent more commonly among other men and the bonds of brotherhood in the battlefield can be very intense. That bond would naturally lead to physical affection when today's homophobic prejudice is removed from the formula. + Charlie, + augustus, marylander1940 and 6 others 7 2
marylander1940 Posted April 23, 2024 Author Posted April 23, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: If you're a fan of classical Greek history, then you should realize that this concept of "gay" / bi and "straight" didn't exist 2400 years ago. Human sexuality was merely accepted as fluid and people had relationships outside of marriage ( which was a PROPERTY RIGHTS contract...not a love bond) all the time. Alexander the Great was most likely "gender blind" which is the state of sexuality where by you fall in love with the PERSON not the PARTS. Being an army man, his time was spent more commonly among other men and the bonds of brotherhood in the battlefield can be very intense. That bond would naturally lead to physical affection when today's homophobic prejudice is removed from the formula. Agreed! We must avoid presentism when studying history because it's a form of cultural bias and creates a distorted understanding of a subject. Example: to us slavery is a monstrosity while for many before us it was not only legal but also a morally acceptable institution. Edited April 23, 2024 by marylander1940 + Charlie and pubic_assistance 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted April 23, 2024 Posted April 23, 2024 10 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: We must avoid presentism when studying history Absolutely!! marylander1940 1
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