Considering changing the way I tour (and closing my hotel loyalty).

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I don’t have all the specifics figured out for this, but I’m starting to feel the “common” way of booking hotels and traveling to a city and lining up clients (like many seem to think we all do) just isn’t it anymore. 
 

In the last couple days: I’ve had 3 confirmed bookings and 3 “maybe” bookings cancel, and I’m on my 2nd night at a hotel. Then a handful of inquiries here and there that haven’t panned out. This after I traveled over 5 hours to a city, in shitty weather at that. Livid would underestimate the way I felt. I had to take myself to a movie, just to escape the reality for a couple hours.

I’m at a point, I’m done with booking and paying for hotels: and having their inflated rates suck up my funds. Then, if something goes awry on the way to a city: Lot of clients can only squeeze in a narrow window of time to meet an escort when I’m hosting.
 

Time and time again I’ve booked rooms, and the client omits the fact that they have other obligations going on, that prevents them from being able to set aside more than an hour or 2. So there’s times I’ve ended up with cancelled bookings, and waiting in a hotel trying to book other clients…only for them to not show either.
 

So I’m basically about to just quit hosting all together, unless I’m doing it from my actual place. But since that could potentially lower the amount of clients I get, I might have to start doing minimums of no less than $500-$1,000 anytime I travel, that would be enough to offset the expenses.

I’ve found some clients don’t mind getting a room to host, and have even gone to cities where every client hosted (my first time to San Francisco some years ago was like that: all my bookings hosted). 
 

Only caveat is how to work that in if I need a room anyway. I don’t mind figuring out my own accommodations after I earn for the session in full. But that would give me the flexibility to pick any hotel of preference in any area of town. Not necessarily central for taking clients. 
 

Right now this is just a preliminary idea, but it might be something I reserve for certain markets. But the ultimate goal would be: send the deposit, include the address, and I’ll come to you. Amazon delivery 🚚 basically. No booking hotels or hosting unless it’s an overnight or 2+ hour evening session. It’s not that I don’t like hosting, I’m just over having to cover it all: travel, book a room, check into the room, and perform. I’ve often found it easier to just travel and perform when I’m going to cities. The whole hotel process adds a whole extra layer of work for me. 
 

And like the other day, one client failed to tell me he was going out of town that same night, and was waiting in a company vehicle for me to get to the hotel. Then he cancelled because his boss was calling. So I had to then call/cancel the hotel, and call the 1800 number to get the hotel to approve getting my points returned so it wasn’t lost. But just the day before, he tells me he was available “anytime” and made no mention of this. 

That’s why I have to remember to always ask every client before I make any hotel or outcall plans:  “If you have ANYTHING else going on in your schedule I need to know about around the time of our appointment, be sure to let me know the earliest and latest you can meet.”

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And another thing: I wish people would stop saying, “well you don’t have to come all the way here/book a room JUST FOR ME.” Well who said I was?? And even if I was, why ask me if/when I’m coming to a city if you don’t want to be the reason for it? Why come off so contradictory. You may not be the only reason but, you may be the reason I’m coming that particular day or hour…When I may want to come at a different time if it were my decision.

I would like to think clients trust that we are smart enough to have a secondary purpose for traveling to a city or booking a room. Regardless if that’s to book other clients or sightseeing personal venture. But that shouldn’t mean they get to be loosey goosey about meeting, and be left with 0 obligation to keep their word. 
 

Couple years ago I drove from St. Louis downtown (right on Illinois border) to Indianapolis (1 hour time change) just to see 1 client who was hosting. I didn’t have a desire to stay in Indianapolis and “work inquiries”, so I went to see him for a 2 hour booking, and turned around and came back that same night. So what if I went just to see him, I got paid and can make my own decisions on how much more I want to or don’t want to do, beyond that.

I used to travel 13 hours to a small town, just to see one client for overnights every summer. But I would halfway stop over in a bigger city along the way. So even though I was going there just for him, I was able to add onto what I was getting…and it was always an advantage.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jeezifonly]

If you love doing the work as much as you indicate here, it’s time to get serious and set up shop in a big city.
I think, with your sensitive approach to people’s wants and needs, DC would be a great match.

Onward!

😘😘😘

[+ DrownedBoy]

Have you tried waiting until after 4 p.m. to book a room? They drop their prices since it's unlikely they'll get customers. I've saved about a third of the overpriced, undeserving hotel fees that way.

If there's no events near the hotel, and no reason to expect it would fill up, you can get roomd a lot cheaper. 

I've done this several times when grabbing rooms to meet providers in. Again, it only works on down days.

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On 11/11/2023 at 4:25 PM, jeezifonly said:

If you love doing the work as much as you indicate here, it’s time to get serious and set up shop in a big city.
I think, with your sensitive approach to people’s wants and needs, DC would be a great match.

Onward!

😘😘😘

Well I was able to catch a break and woosah 🧘🏾‍♂️ over the weekend and squeeze in a 1st timer and a return visitor, and rescheduled one of my cancellations who booked me a room in his city. Exactly what I’ve been asking the universe for. Finally. 
 

However, I am still motivated to make (more) changes due to the number of flakes and phonies. Had someone off adam4adam who I was considering to meet without a deposit. Texted the first part of the day, no response around the time we set to meet. And nothing the next day when I seen him online 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

 

As for big city/small city: I don’t know. The answer seems obvious but, the bigger cities aren’t always the better results. In fact I was in DC back in September, I was disappointed. Luckily I had friend’s hotel downtown so didn’t spend but 1 night on a hotel room the 5 days I was there, but other than 2 trusted guys on here 😉: I didn’t get any bookings. I was like, what the hell? In DC? 
 

I’ve done other trips to DC in the past and some were better, some weren’t. DC seems very dependent on how politics are looking (which is crap at the moment it seems). I might of went too close to after Labor Day, and not enough advance notice (I was meeting friends short notice on their conference schedule). I would have preferred to advertise for a couple weeks more ahead than I did 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
 

 

16 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Have you tried waiting until after 4 p.m. to book a room? They drop their prices since it's unlikely they'll get customers. I've saved about a third of the overpriced, undeserving hotel fees that way.

If there's no events near the hotel, and no reason to expect it would fill up, you can get roomd a lot cheaper. 

I've done this several times when grabbing rooms to meet providers in. Again, it only works on down days.

I always assume it’s best to do it the day prior? Seems after 3-4-5 p.m. the rates can go up. But I think I have noticed every so often, a price will go down mid afternoon. so I’ll try to look more for it.

For me though, it’s not just the price part. Even if I get a perfect steal on a 5 star hotel for $50 (and due to 98% of “inquiries” out there these days being phonies: I’ve stopped using the money saving 3rd party discount websites: so that’ll likely never happen) if nobody shows up the day or 2 I’m there: that’s not favorable. To me, getting a hotel is like a photographer renting a studio and having no models show up. That’s time away from home, time spent waiting around bored, and money spent.

There’s nothing more depressing than a provider going to get a room, and the people who were expected to show: don’t. And I had to pop off on like 2-3 bookings last week because of that. Then they get an attitude with me, and I’m like wait: you’re the one who initiated all this. By being a fake: they’re not just wasting my time, they’re wasting my money and entire schedule.

Thats why going forward, I’m not even going to host in hotels locally for less than 2 hour sessions. Whether they need the whole 2 hours or not. And when traveling, I’m definitely going to have to stick with deposits as usual when hosting. But I may just start making sure all my first day in City arrival bookings, are Outcalls. I did that couple weeks ago in another town, where I asked the client to book the room: and it just got the whole trip off to the right start. I did the booking, then stayed at a friend’s place. 
 

Edited November 13, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Guest]

My market has few providers, so I often have to travel or bring providers to me. I always pay the airfare and a deposit for overnights, and I think that’s fair. There’s some risk, but I do my diligence before booking. I’ve had to cancel, but always with several days notice. Ultimately, it’s about respect, and I don’t want to spend time with people I don’t respect.

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On 11/13/2023 at 4:29 PM, Km411 said:

My market has few providers, so I often have to travel or bring providers to me. I always pay the airfare and a deposit for overnights, and I think that’s fair. There’s some risk, but I do my diligence before booking. I’ve had to cancel, but always with several days notice. Ultimately, it’s about respect, and I don’t want to spend time with people I don’t respect.

That’s always good practice. However, what I contended with last week was just downright bizarre. It gets to a point where, it becomes silly and immature. Game over for the flakes and bullshit.

Thats why I’m just like, fuck it. I’m not doing the book a hotel and hope I have 5-6 clients per trip thing anymore. That’s 2012 strategy. People these days aren’t reliable enough, to trust that is going to work. I feel the pandemic has changed sex work to where, numbers don’t matter anymore. It’s all about loyalty and quality. Going forward it’s 1 or maybe 2 clients max in a day, and not even everyday: when I travel. I’ve already started adjusting my ads to imply I only want 1.5 to 2 hour visits minimum when I host. 
 

I’m trying hard not to resort to only $500 and higher/per session meets. I mean, I was given that just the other day…So it’s not out of this world, but I don’t want to alienate a large part of the market. 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut