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55 minutes ago, nycman said:

Ummmm……no.

There are plenty of studies showing the health benefits of circumcision.  I’m not for it or against it, but I am in favor of facts. Do I it think it’s genital mutilation? Yes. Do I believe there are health benefits? Yes. Both of those statements can be true, no matter how much people on both sides of the argument wish they weren’t. 

On the "universal beauty" front, there are in fact attributes that humans find universally attractive in other humans. Again, I’m not advocating one way or the other. It’s not so much about "white western standards", hair color, or ethnicity, as it is about symmetry and perceived power. I love the rainbow and all its colors/flavors, but denying facts doesn’t make them untrue. 

If you have studies about the health benefits of circumcision, post them. My understanding is that circumcision may marginally reduce STI transmission but not to the extent of condom use. 

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Symmetry is attractive in general. But “perceived power” is neither universally attractive nor abstract from capitalism.

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20 hours ago, nycman said:

On the "universal beauty" front, there are in fact attributes that humans find universally attractive in other humans. Again, I’m not advocating one way or the other. It’s not so much about "white western standards", hair color, or ethnicity, as it is about symmetry and perceived power. I love the rainbow and all its colors/flavors, but denying facts doesn’t make them untrue. 

THANK YOU.

This nonsense about how everyone is beautiful, we just can't see it because we are all conditioned by the White man is deep bullshit.

Regè-Jean Page is one of the hottest stars out there at the moment and broadly regarded as an incredibly good looking man. So WHY is that the case if we were all conditioned to not see beauty in people of color 🤔?

I'm not saying Hollywood didn't have an ideal type they wanted to sell...and that its influence didn't affect people's tastes..but it also doesn't completely control them.

Regè is popular because he's a very attractive, young man with beautiful big eyes and a chiseled physique, and a charming presence.

Obviously 100% of people won't agree...but you do get majority groups to agree that certain things are HOT and people aren't being left out simply because we were TOLD not to like old fat people.

We don't like old/fat people because they are NOT attractive. Not because of some evil mind control. Some of these people need to stop trying to make themselves feel better by pretending there's an alternative universe where they are desirable for anything more than their wallet when they get old and out of shape.

Enjoy the fact that a fat wallet can still get you pretty things.

 

 

 

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On 5/26/2024 at 3:56 PM, KensingtonHomo said:

If you have studies about the health benefits of circumcision, post them.

Just stumbled on this one today. It’s a small study of Chinese gay men who are primarily tops, but if the numbers hold up it’s damn impressive. After one year, no one in the circumcision group got HIV while about 4% of the control group did.

Previous studies have shown about a 50% reduction in HIV transmission in heterosexual African males following circumcision. So I wouldn’t expect the "zero transmission" rate to hold up in larger studies, nonetheless it appears to have an effect. 

Circumcision for HIV Prevention

Gao Y et al. Ann Intern Med 2024 May 28

Among men who have sex with men in China, voluntary medical circumcision reduced risk for HIV infection.

The intervention was highly effective: No HIV seroconversions occurred among 124 men receiving circumcision at study entry, and 5 HIV seroconversions occurred among 123 men in the control group (P=0.025). No between-group differences in risk for other sexually transmitted infections (HSV-2, syphilis, and penile HPV) were noted.

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20 hours ago, nycman said:

Just stumbled on this one today. It’s a small study of Chinese gay men who are primarily tops, but if the numbers hold up it’s damn impressive. After one year, no one in the circumcision group got HIV while about 4% of the control group did.

Previous studies have shown about a 50% reduction in HIV transmission in heterosexual African males following circumcision. So I wouldn’t expect the "zero transmission" rate to hold up in larger studies, nonetheless it appears to have an effect. 

 

Circumcision for HIV Prevention

Gao Y et al. Ann Intern Med 2024 May 28

Among men who have sex with men in China, voluntary medical circumcision reduced risk for HIV infection.

The intervention was highly effective: No HIV seroconversions occurred among 124 men receiving circumcision at study entry, and 5 HIV seroconversions occurred among 123 men in the control group (P=0.025). No between-group differences in risk for other sexually transmitted infections (HSV-2, syphilis, and penile HPV) were noted.

My problem with these studies is that do not compare circumcision to condom use, let alone PreP. Also, adult men choosing circumcision is different from infants being circumcised. I am circumcised and have no issue with it, but some men are very upset that they weren't given the choice. 

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