Gilgo beach serial killer

[+ Coolwave35]

The indictment, and how they caught him through burner phones was wild to read. NOTHING is private. Remember that folks. Don’t murder anyone, they’ll find you. 

[samhexum]

Cases like this always make one ponder things like why would anyone want to kill cereal?

[samhexum]

10 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

Does anyone actually like Anderson Cooper? 

Yes.  Andy Cohen is great friends with him.          

[+ Coolwave35]

59 minutes ago, samhexum said:

Yes.  Andy Cohen is great friends with him.          

He’s even worse.  

[+ augustus]

Thank God!!  This maniac has been murdering people for at least 22 years.  

[+ augustus]

The cops took too long to solve this case, perhaps because the victims were sex workers.  This killer used his own vehicle in one of the murders 13 years ago and kept driving the same vehicle after the murders.  They only started looking for the Chevy Avalanche in the area a year ago, but they had that description from a witness to Amber Costello’s disappearance back in 2010 who was killed near this guy's house!  

[Luv2play]

20 minutes ago, augustus said:

Thank God!!  This maniac has been murdering people for at least 22 years.  

Is that true? I read that the murders happened within a couple of years, back around 2010 and 11. And there were four in all that were attributable to this guy.

[+ augustus]

5 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

Is that true? I read that the murders happened within a couple of years, back around 2010 and 11. And there were four in all that were attributable to this guy.

There are at least 11 bodies found in that area over a 22 year period the news reported.  He has been with 3 of those murders thus far.

[Luv2play]

I didn't read anywhere that he is being associated with all the murders in the area over a more extended period. Were the ones you referred to all sex workers?

[+ tassojunior]

Not that I'm not fine that the murderer from 2010 was found, but could it possibly be that researching cases more than a decade old is safer than working murders that happened in the past few days? IDK about NYC but DC is full of daily murders with active murderers who are currently killing more people. But it makes a better story for the NYT than the dozen killed last weekend and makes the PD look so efficient. 

Edited July 15, 2023 by tassojunior

[Guest]

18 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

The indictment, and how they caught him through burner phones was wild to read. NOTHING is private. Remember that folks. Don’t murder anyone, they’ll find you. 

[BuffaloKyle]

I no longer talk to this guy but one of the victims was a cousin of a old friend of mine so I'm happy for him finally!

Alleged Gilgo Beach killer caught, 1 victim from WNY

WWW.WGRZ.COM

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Alleged serial killer caught, 1 victim from WNY

 

[jeezifonly]

I’ve been watching a lot of British crime procedural shows, and on one of them, a detective gathered leftover pizza from a crime scene with the possibility of DNA match to the perp in mind.

Life/Art?

Art/Life?

[+ augustus]

3 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I didn't read anywhere that he is being associated with all the murders in the area over a more extended period. Were the ones you referred to all sex workers?

Here is a summation from Wikipedia.  The remains of 18 people, most of them sex workers, found in the same area.  He has only been charged with 3 so far.  The MO fits though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgo_Beach_serial_killings

[NJF]

This case triggered a lot of discussions on internet about the safety screening by female escorts. RWI was mentioned. Never heard about it.

[Luv2play]

2 hours ago, NJF said:

This case triggered a lot of discussions on internet about the safety screening by female escorts. RWI was mentioned. Never heard about it.

I could see this happening to male escorts as well. Especially young twink types with a predator like this Rex who was 6'5" and 245 pounds.

[+ jessmapex]

So the Gilgo beach killer, the BTK killer and several others are motivated by sexual sadism. Torturing another human being for sexual pleasure is beyond my comprehension. I was trying to find what evolutionary factors lead to this type of proclivity in some humans. These days there is a trend to gender-identify and raise a child according to his/her/their gender-proclivity rather than the physical gender. Similar to that I wonder if society could identify sexual sadists early on and put them in some program precrime. I also wonder what percentage of population has similar fantasies, but does not act upon them.

[+ Coolwave35]

12 hours ago, jessmapex said:

I wonder if society could identify sexual sadists early on and put them in some program precrime.

I believe parents and siblings can often spot a proclivity to this early on. It does show up in all sorts of ways in childhood. I’m no expert, but my brother from a very early age, helped himself to whatever he wanted regardless of who it belonged to. He was also “rough”, a code word for violent, with our family pets, to the point we could no longer have any. My mom tried to get him help or rehabilitated to no avail. 
 

As an adult, he is a thief and a serial abuser of women. He’s always in jail or arrested and extremely violent. That’s all been there since he was 3. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Coolwave35

[Lookin]

15 hours ago, jessmapex said:

Torturing another human being for sexual pleasure is beyond my comprehension. I was trying to find what evolutionary factors lead to this type of proclivity in some humans.

It's a worthwhile and fascinating subject, that's for sure.  One of my favorite books, The Moral Animal, examines evolutionary psychology in some depth and this article, The Evolution of Empathy, looks at the role of empathy in particular.

Not that nurture - as opposed to nature - doesn't play a role in whether or not we care about others; it does.  It's just that the human species, among others, has found that empathy is important to the survival of the species and it's a characteristic that will persist throughout the generations.  Folks who lack empathy will tend to reproduce less.

Of course, there will be those individuals, like Heuermann, who lack empathy.  Whether it's because he's missing a gene, or because of his upbringing, or some combination, care for others either was never there or was ground out.

I expect it is possible to identify a lack of empathy through psychological testing or by observation.  The issue then would be what do we do about it?  Do we content ourselves with the knowledge that it's a recessive trait and affects a minority of the population?  Do we try to overcome it through training or punishment?  Do we remove people without empathy from society?

Personally, if I come across someone who lacks empathy, I make sure to keep far away.  Unfortunately, Heuermann's victims needed to make a living and were not lucky enough to avoid him.

Perhaps the only good thing about these tragedies is that others may start asking the questions that you have and trying to figure out how to keep these misfits from harming others.