Client assaulted in Brazil GdeP club

[SirBillybob]

This is not media news but from a range of 1st-ish and 2nd hand accounts. So not to be taken completely at face value.

I don’t have all the details but got a text from a friend indicating that in later May an older frail-ish fellow, possibly from UK, was sucker-punched and knocked out cold by a crazed garoto de programa (specific sauna location withheld; any possible distance from Bermuda2.0 Triangle epicentre). By all accounts, the customer can stake a claim to adding masochism to his belt notches.

It was out in the open in full view of several witnesses. Apparently a programa was not involved and there may have been but a few minutes of interaction that minimally gobbled up time. What is apparent is that the escort was immediately thrown out, banned, for whatever that’s worth while “triage” ensued.

Two days later he had an ad up on Skokka (not the old fellow; unless concussed and confused he also posted an escort profile). Fortunate for the poor sod that the garoto did not lose his shyte behind a closed suite door.

I imagine this type of episode is extremely rare in a curated setting and simply underscores that there is a continuum of risk across various models of the what / where / when / why / how / which of trade hiring. It’s the Wild West and one might be better off sticking to where the sheriff is in town. 

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Specious assumptions to follow regarding specific city safety differentials. Discussion optional.

Edited June 8, 2023 by SirBillybob

[solacesoul]

As far as I or my local sources in Rio can tell, nothing like this occurred at either 117 or 202 in Rio in May. If this did occur, it most likely happened at a sauna in another Brazilian city.

BTW, there’s a shit ton of crimey / violent things that go down related to saunas, ads, GPs, massagistas and/or gogo boys in Brazil that never make the media rounds. Most of it goes unreported to law enforcement (because frankly, almost everyone knows they can be pretty useless and the others are not interested in going public), so most problems like this are handled internally. 

Example: over the last year or so, a popular gogo boy in Rio was robbing and attacking sauna and ad clients, targeting gay tourists who either would be too embarrassed or too frightened to come forward, or who wouldn’t be around town long enough to go through a lengthy process of filing charges. He did this so much that he was banned at both major saunas. But no news or announcements were ever made. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by solacesoul

[kingsley88]

Are the lockers at Rio saunas a safe place to put your valuables (smartphone and cash)? Or is it advised not to bring smartphone and just bring enough cash when going there?

[SirBillybob]

Right, one would expect garoto shenanigans to be almost run-of-the-mill given the trade context compared, say, to the risks of a public gym or stud poker club, etc etc, and handled in-house to the extent possible. AFAIK the two main Rio venues manage this well and are certainly oriented to ab-fab safety. 

The lesson imparted is that the less curated and supervised the environment the greater the probability of risk, perhaps, maybe, given evidence of the occasional menace that makes it into the more secure setting. An exile from Dodge may emerge in Deadwood. One’s resources are pretty much limited to what resides above the clavicle, along with number of horseshoes planted lower down. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, kingsley88 said:

Are the lockers at Rio saunas a safe place to put your valuables (smartphone and cash)? Or is it advised not to bring smartphone and just bring enough cash when going there?

Not an irrelevant inquiry. Close to 100% of attendees use the lockers for the valuables you mention and the locker areas are well-supervised. If somebody wants to drag on the tangent about belongings security a new topic may be warranted. It’s a few degrees of separation from assault / bodily harm and the overarching admonishment (not mine) that seems to inevitably pop up to bypass Rio travel in favour of Sampa travel. 

Thought leaders appreciated. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by SirBillybob

[solacesoul]

2 hours ago, kingsley88 said:

Are the lockers at Rio saunas a safe place to put your valuables (smartphone and cash)? Or is it advised not to bring smartphone and just bring enough cash when going there?

Club 117 and Point 202 have cameras and attentive locker room attendants. Locker room thefts there have been pretty rare. But you should always exercise caution. Just bring enough cash and one card for your sauna expenses for the night. As for your phone, it would be fine in a locked locker as well and also on your person, as long as you don’t get it wet or go in the showers / steam rooms with it.

Honestly, you should be more concerned about carrying those items / cash outside on the streets than inside the saunas. Other than this (possible, unconfirmed) incident reported in the OP, the saunas are (relatively) safe and secure. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by solacesoul

[SirBillybob]

Very very very unlikely a contingency imperative to have on hand a thick wad of bills to spin up and cushion the impromptu meeting between a lughead’s fist and an unprepared jaw. Really intelligent to trade off split-second violent gratification for venue earning privileges. Fortunately, seems to have been a freakish anomaly, but bear in mind the capricious potential for the unhinged rage of any inadequately vetted hook-up. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by SirBillybob

[Deadlift1]

Very well said Sir Bob

[solacesoul]

18 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

… but bear in mind the capricious potential for the unhinged rage of any inadequately vetted hook-up. 

On the other hand, and not to “victim blame”, there are some really obnoxious clients who probably do deserve to have their asses kicked. There is one gringo tourist clown who sits at the sauna bar and lures garotos into doing a lot of public displays of affection / practical public sex acts by promising them a programa in a suite if he can feel a “connection”. Then, after practically getting his rocks off and having each garoto one-by-one go through humiliating intimacy with him in public, he sends them on their way without even as much as a tip for their time, saying, “I’ll think about it” or “maybe later”.

I doubt many of the more obnoxious visitors understand that South / Latin America — and especially Brazil — has its own set of rules when it comes to meting out justice, and the machismo culture calls for avenging shame. I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of some of these streetwise, favela-connected boys. 

 

[SirBillybob]

Word. Lift.

Culpability ratio a sliding scale.

Witnessed this past year a scene across a crowded bar room between a hideous looking customer and a favourite gacquaintance of mine, seemingly for minimally half an hour before I think I myself moved on to stretch my legs. It was not an enchanted evening exchange. I don’t know if it was a local or an estrangeiro but my gacquaintance was obviously trying to set limits as I tried to refrain from throwing up my Gatorade a little in my mouth.

My sense was that the imbecile kept lunging for tonsils while tugging away below without visa clearance. The GI microspasms my own fault for not averting my gaze but, you know, trains veering off rails and such. Like, get a 10-buck room and pony up, cheap-ass bitch. Once you have found him, hello and let him go.

My gacquaintance later received what would be considered a very decent fee for canoodling privately in the setting with a client actually dealing fairly. Beautiful handsome masculine built guy with the sweetest of temperaments, doesn’t come in aggressively hot on the floor, rolling with these sorts of hits probably partly for his offspring’s sake. It occurs to me that although honourable decent transactions often occur there isn’t nearly enough compensation baked in for what many a garoto is typically put through on a given shift.

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Cue the: “well you don’t know that the garoto wasn’t fine with it all and their deal didn’t actually stand up at the end of the day … fawnh fawnh, fawnh, fawnh”, from the usual suspect array of spirit-crushing merchandise samplers with delusions of gifting by virtue of their mere presence. 

Edited June 10, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SouthOfTheBorder]

On 6/8/2023 at 7:22 AM, SirBillybob said:

specific sauna location withheld; any possible distance from Bermuda2.0 Triangle epicentre).

why would you post this & not identify the sauna ?  

one of the core ideas here is to warn others of troublesome providers and venues 

unless it’s just to gossip of course. or, a diversion

 

(quick !! Look over there !! ) 

 

[SirBillybob]

30 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

why would you post this & not identify the sauna ?  

one of the core ideas here is to warn others of troublesome providers and venues 

unless it’s just to gossip of course. or, a diversion

(quick !! Look over there !! ) 

Where? …   Oh, down there.

You alone satisfy a core alert system, and that is not a bad thing.

As to reason: If you already understand, no explanation necessary; if you don’t, none possible.

As to gossip: The specific criterion is the identification, which you will now predictably satisfy in spite of anybody including self. Ready, set, go.

[Subject open at my discretion.]

Edited June 10, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SouthOfTheBorder]

thanks R

i get it - you need more attention 

you’re really quite good at that - in a paranoid fantastical verbose sort of way 

hint - you might want to tone it down before you get banned here too

Edited June 10, 2023 by SouthOfTheBorder

[solacesoul]

10 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

hint - you might want to tone it down before you get banned here too

Hilarity ensues when a verbose poster across multiple platforms — without one ounce of self-awareness — runs to a moderator to report his detractors, and winds up getting himself suspended from that very same platform.

What’s bizarre is the poster seems to believe that no one can figure out he’s the same poster under different screen names across different platforms.

That being said, some very fine people in the past have been suspended (or chased away) from that platform. 

 

[Cooper]

Administrator’s Note:

Please! Return to the subject and stop the personal back & forth attacks. If you’re done with your comments and have nothing more to add, move on to another thread. 🙏

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, Cooper said:

Administrator’s Note:

Please! Return to the subject and stop the personal back & forth attacks. If you’re done with your comments and have nothing more to add, move on to another thread. 🙏

Unfortunately, the subject is a bunch of gossip dumped by the OP, adding to the fear-mongering narratives around insecurity in Rio. I vote for locking this thread.