Dirty Play ?

[topcat]

I'd like some help please.

 

I was emailing a well-reviewed escort recently. I had described what I like to do/have done to me. My desires are fairly vanilla: I enjoy kissing with lots of body contact, I like to top and to be sucked off to completion; and I only have safe sex.

 

He was very positive about being able to perform for me. He then added that if he really "got into the guy" he could "play dirty"

 

I have no idea what he meant. As I did not make a booking with him, I cannot ask what he had in mind. But can anyone here please tell me what is commonly meant by "play dirty"

[Luv2play]

I would assume that what the escort in question was trying to suggest was that, if he was turned on by the client, he would engage in some raunchy sexual play, such as watersports, spit, and other, well, "dirty" activities, which, at the extreme, could I suppose, include scat. There are escorts who advertise their willingness to engage in such activities. Did the one you consult have this in his promotional material or was it hinted at in the reviews on this site? Or did this come completely out of the blue?

[skins1]

I feel silly asking this question but i guess it can go along with the topic: what is pig play? i assume it's barebacking correct?

[seaboy4hire]

Why is it so hard for some people to ask who they are talking to what something means? And you wonder why some people have unpleasant meetings? If you don't know it isn't that difficult to ask the person you are talking to what something means. Common sence doing so could save a lot of frustration later on down the road. And pig play doesn't always mean barebacking. You can still have "safe" pig play.

 

Hugs,

Greg

Greg Seattle Wa seaboy4hire@yahoo.com

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/gregseattle.html http://briefcase.yahoo.com/seaboy4hire

[Rick Munroe]

I'd advise anyone who's considering getting into dirty play to remember that it can be dangerous:

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6813475/

[+ deej]

I don't think there's any single answer to "what is pig play".

 

It's generally wanton, lusty, sweaty, no-holds-barred hard-core sex. We're not talking about sweetly making love in a lilac-scented room. No specific act is implied, although videos billed as "pig sex" will frequently feature fisting, traffic cones, absurdly large dildos, etc.

 

It certainly doesn't imply barebacking. Titan Media (a porn company) uses the slogan "where the men are pigs". They're also at the forefront of the anti-barebacking crowd.

 

Although it's one of those terms that many people use in various situations. Your best answer to what he meant is to ask him.

[topcat]

To answer Luv2play: No, there were no hints in what he wrote nor any in his reviews...

 

And to address the point about communication, I agree and am very open. But once he made it clear that he regarded my using a condom as optional, I ended our talk and did not make a booking.

 

My question here stems from my ignorance of what constitutes "dirty play" (and no more wisecracks please)

[noviceny]

>It's generally wanton, lusty, sweaty, no-holds-barred hard-core sex. We're not talking about sweetly making love in a lilac-scented room.<

 

Thats pretty witty...I like the opposing scenes :-)

[JT Brooklyn]

WHOA! Condoms "OPTIONAL"..That right there pretty well says that "PIG Play" is close to everything and anything in his play book! He sounds like he has the "Nothing to LOSE" attitude towards Life in General! Also if he is "well reviewed" it is mentioned about his "Optional Condoms" attitude by those who chose to hang with him! I personally, would definitely NOT Hangout with this guy.. :+ :+ :+

[+ deej]

>WHOA! Condoms "OPTIONAL"..That right there pretty well says

>that "PIG Play" is close to everything and anything in his

>play book! He sounds like he has the "Nothing to LOSE"

>attitude towards Life in General! Also if he is "well

>reviewed" it is mentioned about his "Optional Condoms"

>attitude by those who chose to hang with him! I personally,

>would definitely NOT Hangout with this guy.. :+ :+ :+

 

Ummm ... what planet are you on?

 

Nothing in this thread says "condoms optional".

 

What are you getting on about?

[Rick Munroe]

See post # 6

[+ deej]

Woops. I stand corrected. (Thanks!)

 

Still, let's not confuse piggish wanton sweaty sex with the lack of condom use as a rule. You can be a pig and still wear protection.

[HotdadENYC]

>He was very positive about being able to perform for me. He

>then added that if he really "got into the guy" he could "play

>dirty"

>

>I have no idea what he meant. As I did not make a booking with

>him, I cannot ask what he had in mind. But can anyone here

>please tell me what is commonly meant by "play dirty"

 

 

I would guess that until (and if) you actually talk to the escort in question, you won't know exactly what he had in mind. The phrases he used and you relayed to us are subject to a LOT of interpretation.

 

Pigs are dirty animals, as everyone knows, but OH they taste so good after a little bit of processing. Given a choice, I would much prefer pork to chicken (and YES, the play on words IS INTENDED).

 

"Dirty" could also mean a lot of things, and once again, despite what we all might tell you, you would need to ask THE escort in question EXACTLY what HE had in mind.

 

Having sex, let's say, in a horse-shit filled stable in NYC's Central Park constitutes "dirty sex", but doesn't turn me off in the least bit. Certainly not if the escort is wearing those tight equestrian pants, that paint an erection much better than, oh well....

 

On the subject of "condom optional" however, I'm still trying to see where THAT subject came up. My computer doesn't speak Braille and doesn't make any kind of presumption about other's posts.

 

However, if the "dirty" DID MEAN "perhaps absence of condom", for anal sex, then I don't think there are ANY options and I wouldn't want to speculate further about what HE or YOU had in mind.

 

In short, if the condom gets off, then neither one of us do.

 

hd NYC

[shy]

>Woops. I stand corrected. (Thanks!)

>

>Still, let's not confuse piggish wanton sweaty sex with the

>lack of condom use as a rule. You can be a pig and still wear

>protection.

 

deej, you weren't actually wrong. it was jt brooklyn (or whatever) who confused things. the originator of the thread, in his original post, didn't mention condoms optional, just asked what "dirty sex" meant. then skins1 asked as a similar type question, what 'pig sex' was. after topcat added in post #6 that the escort had mentioned condom optional, jt brooklyn (or whatever) confused the two discussions about 'dirty sex' and 'pig sex'. hope this helps clarify the discussion.

[+ deej]

Thanks Shy, but Rick is right and I was wrong.

 

And this little piggy is going to bed. ;-)

[Luv2play]

In my view, "dirty play" and "pig sex" are somewhat related but not completely interchangeable terms. There is a cultural factor operating here as well. I think for a European male escort who speaks English (Brit or say German, Italian or French guys) "dirty play" includes the activities I mentioned in my first post above. On this side of the Atlantic, it is a term which is less well defined and gets confused with "pig play". The latter can include some of the activities like watersports or spit, but to some it just means getting all sweaty but otherwise nothing except pretty vanilla activities. As someone else said, better communication is the only way to find out what that "particular" escort means.

[skins1]

I've never had an escort mention dirty play or pig play but a lot of guys on http://www.manhunt.net mention pig play. whatever one calls it i think ill stay away from it. thanks for the definitions.

[JT Brooklyn]

I think the BEST thing is the Easiest Thing. Just "ASK" the Escort IF he likes to get into whatever WE mention to him..And Explain a "TERM" we donot understand that HE uses..Always use a "Condom".. Always ask the Play Safe only Question First...:+ :+ :+

[+ Charlie]

"Pig play, dirty play, nasty play"--none of them are very specific, but all of them imply something excessive or beyond the norm. An escort once asked me, in a moment of frenzy, if I wanted to be his pig, and when I asked what that meant, it turned out he wanted to piss in my mouth. As JT says, you never know until you ask.

 

Those who are into genuninely dirty play sometimes use the term "grunge sex". I had a friend who could only get off on rolling around in motor oil. One very nice British civil servant I went home with years ago, wanted to have sex while wearing a sewer cleaner's uniform. There are fetish groups that get together for outdoor parties in mud. The most bizarre "grunge" fetish I ever heard about was from a friend who went with a guy who put eggs in his pockets and then smashed them. Go figure how that could be a turn-on.

[Txpaytoplay]

And I thought it was hard trying to figure out "butch trade"!!??:7 :7