Cuming in your mouth

[foxy]

There's a post in the Lounge about an escort wanting a client to wear a condom when he sucks him. It made me wonder if any escorts allowed clients to cum in their mouth without a condom? How about if he was wearing one?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Pithy, V.3.1

 

No, either with or without.

[Flower]

>It made me wonder if any

>escorts allowed clients to cum in their mouth without a

>condom?

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Well, the answer is yes--some do, but I think it's on an individual, personal basis and only after he feels comfortable with you and the chemistry is right--which is how I determine if I will let someone cum in my mouth and or swallow. Oral sex is very safe from an HIV standpoint and most of the other stuff can be avoided if you and the escort are truthfull with each other, observant and careful, but even then, most STD's can be taken care of in a few days with a shot or pills or yuky tasting drink ($10 at the clinic, so not something I get very paranoid about--but i'm careful--sorta

 

But cumming in the mouth and swallowing are both pretty personal things--at least to me--and I imagine many escorts feel the same way. The few that I have reciprocated this activity with are ones I seem to have developed a higher level of friendship with, and not something we did the first time or two.

[Guest Throat Poker]

RE: Pithy, V.3.1

 

>No, either with or without.

 

You mean you won't allow a client to cum in your mouth EVEN WITH a condom? I'm curious about this - is this because you see it as somehow against your role as a top (which I think you are but I haven't gone to check) or is it a safety issue?

 

Of course everyone is free to make their own personal choices - and we all have to respect that - but if it's a safety precaution then it strikes me as over the top...he is wearing a condom after all. Why not go the whole way and get him to stay in a separate room during sex? :+

[Guest Les]

Truly a wonderful treat that most prudent, negative guys have given up. There are a few escorts who are open about their positive status... I'd start with them.

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[+ Charlie]

Oh, Les, how could you?! That is so HOT....I meant gross!!

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Over The Top

 

>>No, either with or without.

>

>You mean you won't allow a client to cum in your mouth EVEN

>WITH a condom? I'm curious about this - is this because you

>see it as somehow against your role as a top (which I think

>you are but I haven't gone to check) or is it a safety issue?

 

I answered the question as briefly as possible as it was asked. To clarify, since you asked, please note below:

 

Number of clients who have asked me to wear a condom durng oral sex: 0

 

Number of clients who wanted to wear a condom while receiving oral sex: 0

 

Number of clients who wanted to come in my mouth: 0

[bigguyinpasadena]

There is a hooker here in LA (who shall remain nameless-let's just say his chipendale days are looooooonnnnngggg gone-yet he still uses that in his ad)who refuses to let a client blow him without him(the hooker)wearing a rubber!When a friend told me that I laughed and laughed-who does he think he is-big ol worn out Guido!

[ready182]

RE: Cuming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. Can someone plz explain the theory whereas the nasty germs are in the 'load', but somehow the pre-cum is sterile??? i.e. if you are gonna suck, you might as well finish what you're doing, cause you've already exchanged fluids.

[guyinsf]

RE: Cuming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

Well, I think some of the differences are that not everyone produces much precum (it seems to me that very few guys produce much at all) and, therefore, if one believes that the acids in one's stomach or saliva are going to kill HIV, there is a lot less of the virus to kill in a 1/4 teaspoon's worth of liquid than in 3 or 4 tablespoons. (I also seem to recall reading at some point that there was less HIV in precum than in cum, but I could be mistaken.)

 

Oh, and another answer: People's sexual decisions are not always based on logic.

 

>I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. Can someone plz

>explain the theory whereas the nasty germs are in the 'load',

>but somehow the pre-cum is sterile??? i.e. if you are gonna

>suck, you might as well finish what you're doing, cause you've

>already exchanged fluids.

[Guest houseboy]

RE: Cuming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

3 or 4 tablespoons of cum? Could I please see a show of hands (and consequently phone numbers) of guys who actually produce that much? I always thought I was rather prolific, but without proper preparation, 4 tablespoons seems to be a bit much pressure on the ole prostate...:9

[Lewis H]

RE: Cuming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

I dunno guys - I had a long talk consoling someone I know who was told he was poz just last month, and aside from a single incident of anal sex where the condom slipped off and into his ass while the penetration continued without his knowledge (and the top subsequently tested negative a year and a half later ), his only risky behavior was oral sex...................He's HIV+ now, and accidentally swallowed only one (half) load in the two years since he last tested negative. The only assumption he can make is either the laod he swallowed was from an HIV+ guy (he claims he deep throated the guy who didn't pull out fast enough before a portion of cum shot inside his mouth), or he got infected by precum in a cut in his mouth. Whatever way it was, he's quite certain his infection was from oral sex. If it adds anything, he had a penchant for deep throating, and he had heard the same stories about how stomach acids would kill the HIV virus anyway, aside from the supposed small risk of infection from oral sex. Well, he must have had really bad luck, becaus he got infected regardless......................I know we'd like to believe that oral sex is safer, but please remember - stories like this prove there ARE still risks. And it's not impossible. Please try to be as safe as possible.

[Flower]

RE: Cuming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

I know we'd like to

>believe that oral sex is safer, but please remember - stories

>like this prove there ARE still risks. And it's not

>impossible. Please try to be as safe as possible.

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Hmmm--please don't take this as a critcism of you or your post, cause you are correct, there are risks in all behavior of this kind, but a friends story doesn't prove anything except he told you what he told you and as his friend, you believed it -- and it could have been the truth -- but only HE knows, not you nor certainly any of us.

 

Under the best of conditions oral is suppossed to be relatively safe due to the incompatibility of the HIV virus with saliva and stomach acid--I'm told it's actually a pretty fragile organism outside it's own environment. But any bleeding gums--like just having brushed teeth or sratched your mouth on a potatoe chip or what ever allows direct insertion of the virus into your blood steam from either precum or a full load, and then it doesn't take much to make the sero-conversion. Also, us size queens are more at risk if we're trying to deep throat the trophy dick because greater friction can break small blood vessels and we have the same problem--likewise with anal btw--bottoms who search out SIZE are more at risk in BB.

 

That being said, oral is still relatively safe, but you are absolutely correct--nothing is without risk:+

[guyinsf]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

I agree, Flower. The problem with believing that one knows the truth based on anecdotal information is that the information is anecdotal! The friend could be lying because he is ashamed that he willingly took greater risks that would be socially acceptable to his friends. The friend's partner whose condom slipped off may, in fact, be positive. Of course it is possible that everything the friend says is true and that he WAS infected by oral sex (either the incident where he got cum in his mouth or at some other time). Or, of course, he could have become infected by some other act of anal sex that he did not perceive as risky at the time (a condom breaking without him realizing it, etc). The problem is that since this isn't a controlled study AND it's a story about just one person, one cannot generalize from this experience at all.

 

What we can generalize about is the apparent risk of oral transmission of HIV based on the gay community at large. Given how many guys suck dick without using condoms, there is no doubt that the rate of transmission wouldn't have reached the low levels it did if oral sex presented a great or even moderate level of risk. I'd hazard to guess that almost all sexually active gay men with more than one partner would be infected with HIV was easy to transmit orally.

 

>I know we'd like to

>>believe that oral sex is safer, but please remember -

>stories

>>like this prove there ARE still risks. And it's not

>>impossible. Please try to be as safe as possible.

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>]

>Hmmm--please don't take this as a critcism of you or your

>post, cause you are correct, there are risks in all behavior

>of this kind, but a friends story doesn't prove anything

>except he told you what he told you and as his friend, you

>believed it -- and it could have been the truth -- but only HE

>knows, not you nor certainly any of us.

>

>Under the best of conditions oral is suppossed to be

>relatively safe due to the incompatibility of the HIV virus

>with saliva and stomach acid--I'm told it's actually a pretty

>fragile organism outside it's own environment. But any

>bleeding gums--like just having brushed teeth or sratched your

>mouth on a potatoe chip or what ever allows direct insertion

>of the virus into your blood steam from either precum or a

>full load, and then it doesn't take much to make the

>sero-conversion. Also, us size queens are more at risk if

>we're trying to deep throat the trophy dick because greater

>friction can break small blood vessels and we have the same

>problem--likewise with anal btw--bottoms who search out SIZE

>are more at risk in BB.

>

>That being said, oral is still relatively safe, but you are

>absolutely correct--nothing is without risk:+

[+ Lucky]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

To comment as briefly as possible, I agree with Flower on this.

[Guest rick7nyc]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

Yes, the few who want to come in my mouth, I allow them to do so. I spit it out immediately, though, and they know that beforehand.

 

Rick

[Guest rick7nyc]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

PS: most of them are married men.

 

Rick

[+ Lucky]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

"PS: most of them are married men."

 

I find that so distasteful.

[Flower]

RE: Cumming in your mouth: pre vs. post

 

[font color="green"

]Lucky--Your avatar is disabled you run outta coffee?

[+ Axiom2001]

Les, "this is so hot!" But, I'd heed to what you wrote.

 

Also-- I thought 'escorts' were to have answered this question.

Apparently- few took it on.

[guyinsf]

That's almost always true here. There are only a few escorts who post regularly anyway. Though I like this sub-forum, and I certainly feel free to chime in my non-escort response when I have one, perhaps it should be renamed.

 

>Les, "this is so hot!" But, I'd heed to what you wrote.

>

>Also-- I thought 'escorts' were to have answered this

>question.

>Apparently- few took it on.