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The closest experiences I've had to non-consentual sex is during certain sex acts/positions that were new to me and I really didn't want to try it at the time.  I repeatedly verbally said "no", but the other person kept at it.  Afterwards, I always looked back on those scenarios as hot and look forward to more unplanned experiences like that.

However, I was never restrained or felt powerless.  I'm sure I could have gotten up and left if I needed to.  These were all with hookups so there's no emotional or financial bondage that some face with a spouse or work supervisor.  So it's not really rape by some people's definition, but by the most politically correct definition it is considered rape because I said "no".

These instances of rape are still a fantasy/fetish for me.  

On 3/2/2022 at 5:53 PM, DapperGent said:

...but I’d prefer a scenario where I visit a friend who happens to have a guest over, they get me drunk or high enough to take advantage of me. I would attempt to resist their touches but they’ll talk me into it since I’m at their mercy literally…

I love this scenario!  My fantasy "rape" scenarios are with straight buddies I went to high school with and shared bunks in dorms or cabins.  I remember they would talk about sex all the time and whip their dicks out.  I fantasize about them sticking their penis in my mouth while I'm asleep as a joke to them, but a definite turn on for me.  And eventually they'd "dare" me to let them fuck my ass.  So... Rape?  Not really rape because I am consenting to it (after I wake up anyway) and deep down really want it, I just never did those thing before at that age in my life.   But others might view any peer pressure into sex as rape.

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On 5/11/2022 at 11:36 PM, Kxev said:

Honestly- this is not good for your mental health. I used to have this fetish. It was rooted in abuse. 
 

sorry. I think this is out of style like crossing bathrooms are out. Try getting off another way. Also fetished this and moved on after 30 as I was 13 when I met men this way  . It was not the right way to have sex as a kid  

it gets deeper and darker down this road. I been there. You also meet terrible people who want to do this to you. 

Kxev---Thank you for sharing. I totally agree with those who say that for some CNC is acceptable and healthy. Getting raped is not an uncommon fantasy for gay men. But I also want to validate your experience because so few others have and because I do not think your experience is isolated. I know men who have CNC fantasies and try to live them out and they are rooted in real life abuse (for example, repeated rape of his 10 year old self by his drunk dad). For these people turning away from the CNC fantasies and cultivating mutuality in relationships, finding pleasure in sex that is not abusive is healthy for them physically, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually. For the sub, CNC can lead one to very dangerous men and permanent physical damage. As the Dom, he can cross the line into real rape and assault and psychological trauma in the search for a greater thrill. I'm glad that you realized CNC was not for you and have taken a different path.

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On 12/20/2022 at 11:32 AM, Vegas_Millennial said:

The closest experiences I've had to non-consentual sex is during certain sex acts/positions that were new to me and I really didn't want to try it at the time.  I repeatedly verbally said "no", but the other person kept at it.  Afterwards, I always looked back on those scenarios as hot and look forward to more unplanned experiences like that.

However, I was never restrained or felt powerless.  I'm sure I could have gotten up and left if I needed to.  These were all with hookups so there's no emotional or financial bondage that some face with a spouse or work supervisor.  So it's not really rape by some people's definition, but by the most politically correct definition it is considered rape because I said "no".

These instances of rape are still a fantasy/fetish for me.  

Some people need to be pushed to try things they wouldn’t on their own, even though they really want to. Allowing your partner to push your limits during sex can be a bit like allowing a trainer to push you extra hard during a workout, or allowing a therapist to prod some uncomfortable topic that really needs discussing. If you are sensible and strong enough to advocate for your own safety, and a good judge of your partner’s emotional maturity, this can be a fun area to play.
 

If you can trust a Dom to keep you from physical harm, it can be a lot of fun to experience powerlessness and being used by someone else who is in control. I find this is a great relief as a means of relinquishing daily responsibilities and leadership. 

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On 5/12/2022 at 11:41 AM, Kxev said:

Forced sex fantasies have psychological roots and personal and social impacts.

Sure explore it and move on if you are a mentally stable person.

it is a fact however that abusive past leads to these fetishization - I had it. It lead and keep fueling low self esteem.

When you realize your worth - you stop having these needs.

I was not abused and has a totally regular sex life but that stuff turns me on. If you want to blame someone blame Disney for having all those hunky guys in bondage. This is a kink shame generalization that isn't even accurate. It can be for SOME people but not the majority.

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I used to be really into this in my 20s. Would go to great lengths to find the right partner(s) and organize it just to realize the fantasy. Now I am older and I understood why I wanted to put myself through that, so I stopped . Not in a depriving myself kinda of way, but in a "we've closed this chapter" kinda of way.

I recently rewatched some old "rape fantasy" pornos I had from that time, it wasn't arousing, it just felt really loud. Too loud. Couldn't enjoy it like before.

Still, admittedly, I still get a boner when I remember the things I did. Some residuals from the fantasy like being choked or being pinned down by one guy and getting fucked by another remains a delight.

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