Travelling Providers Giving Little Notice

[BuffaloKyle]

I don't know if this is an issue for guys in other cities but I absolutely hate it when I see a provider pop up in my city and posting then that he's only there for that day and/or the next. I'm guessing a couple reasons can be that a provider doesn't know for sure when and where they will be until they are actually on their way somewhere. Or to cut down on wasted time with flakes and game players. But for an actual real client like myself just sucks to see a guy I would hire show up on rentmen and say to me when I reach out "I'm only here today". I like to have notice myself so I can be freshly groomed, shaved, and not having eaten for example something super spicy or anything else that is gonna mess with my stomach a bit. Just wanted to let providers know if you are not seeing as much action as you'd like when you travel give a little more notice if possible! 

[Shawn Monroe]

It may have to do with the way rentmen and rentmasseur render our travel dates. Rentmen is a little better about it than rentmasseur, but they often make it look like we are in a city for up to a month before we actually travel to the city. I spend more time texting “hi - thanks for reaching out. I’m not currently in [travel city]. My ad should say I’ll be there from [travel dates]. Would you like to make an appointment for when kn in town?”

 

most of the time they don’t, because they’re looking for something immediate. And because of that, I’ve considered just posting my travel cities when I get there, since most guys want to meet the first day you’re there. 
 

it really could be that the trip was spontaneous, but I figure it’s a way to cut down on headache. 

[italianboyph]

I’ve always made sure I let clients know ahead of time so they know in advance. I’ve always put my travel dates as well in any city I’ve traveled to. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

15 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

just sucks to see a guy I would hire show up on rentmen and say to me when I reach out "I'm only here today". if you are not seeing as much action as you'd like when you travel give a little more notice if possible! 

 

lol, I’m not laughing “at you” in this post, but certainly laughing at the mutual understanding behind it all. I totally get it because often times, clients will do the same thing: call at the last minute, after I gorged myself on either food or alcoholic beverages, only to tell me, “I can’t tomorrow, I have an early flight”. Well sorry I didn’t know you even existed 2 hours ago 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
 

It all comes down to preparation though. That’s why often times I’ll post ads up long before I even have dates planned. And like @Shawn Monroesaid, even that can backfire because maybe they are looking now and not available in 2-3 weeks for shipping and handling. 
 

I just wish once again, RentMen would allow more providers to design their ad and travel city dates in a more conducive, productive way. They obligate us to put dates up, and we can only put “near travel” if it’s a city within 250 miles. Then clients get mad at me because they say, “your dates kept changing”. Well yeah, because I never intended to have a set “date”, I intended to advertise before I arrived, to allow clients to get a chance to speak with me and coordinate a date. 
 

People see a date and think, “oh you’ll be here Friday?” No…I never said that. I’m just putting a hypothetical date on an ad, and if I don’t have anything scheduled ahead of time on that date, I won’t go until a day I am comfortable with. I learned long time ago: never go to a city without at least 1, preferably 2 appointment booked ahead of time (unless you have someone you can crash at for free, otherwise you could end up wasting money before you even get your first client). 
 

There’s been a couple times I’ve been able to go somewhere with no one booked but turned out well, however it’s not something I normally do…and there was often another incentive behind it.

Edited January 19, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[BuffaloKyle]

I would much prefer guys do what you do @Jarrod_Uncut by posting even hypothetical dates. If I do see a provider posting that he'll be in my city in 4 or 5 weeks I know he might just be testing the waters so I'll shoot a text or rm message saying for instance "hi I saw you are planning to visit my city soon. just wanted to let you know i would be interested for sure in setting up something when you are here. i will message you when the arrival date gets a week or so out."

[marylander1940]

On 1/18/2022 at 10:34 AM, BuffaloKyle said:

I don't know if this is an issue for guys in other cities but I absolutely hate it when I see a provider pop up in my city and posting then that he's only there for that day and/or the next. I'm guessing a couple reasons can be that a provider doesn't know for sure when and where they will be until they are actually on their way somewhere. Or to cut down on wasted time with flakes and game players. But for an actual real client like myself just sucks to see a guy I would hire show up on rentmen and say to me when I reach out "I'm only here today". I like to have notice myself so I can be freshly groomed, shaved, and not having eaten for example something super spicy or anything else that is gonna mess with my stomach a bit. Just wanted to let providers know if you are not seeing as much action as you'd like when you travel give a little more notice if possible! 

Depends on how each escort handles his own business.... most guys I know do some "canvassing" months in advance collecting emails and numbers of interested clients. Once they arrive they have clients who contacted them in advance and those who simply saw their ad during their visit. Maybe he changed plans and decided to stop by Buffalo or had to do it because of other personal issues and had no time to advertise.

 

@BuffaloKyle I wish more clients had your considerations and duly prepare themselves for a date with a provider. 

[BuffaloKyle]

6 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

@BuffaloKyle I wish more clients had your considerations and duly prepare themselves for a date with a provider. 

And I'm a top so I don't even have to do all the extra preparations if I was a bottom! 😜

[marylander1940]

14 minutes ago, BuffaloKyle said:

And I'm a top so I don't even have to do all the extra preparations if I was a bottom! 😜

is always nice saving your load for a couple of days... 😈 to mark your territory. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Depends on how each escort handles his own business.... most guys I know do some "canvassing" months in advance collecting emails and numbers of interested clients. Once they arrive they have clients who contacted them in advance and those who simply saw their ad during their visit. Maybe he changed plans and decided to stop by Buffalo or had to do it because of other personal issues and had no time to advertise.

 

@BuffaloKyle I wish more clients had your considerations and duly prepare themselves for a date with a provider. 

Good analysis, and I’ve been in that position many a times. I remember last year, I drove to Las Vegas somewhat last minute, and stayed from 10 pm to about 3 am. I wasn’t trying to get a room and spend the night because I had to be elswewhere by 5 pm the next day. It was basically a “drive thru and see my friend, and keep it moving” but I was open to see a client if one booked and was hosting. 
 

I think what’ll help, is clients should avoid “window shopping” if they aren’t prepared to meet at that moment in time. I always say: clients love to expect us to be available right away, but they would never expect to be available right away if we called them. 

Even if the escort says, “advanced notice only” and you are just “checking”, still be ready to book right then. You never know, if you’re available and he’s available, why not? I don’t understand some guys who lurk around the escort dens looking for basically nothing. Same with the Grindr circuit (which I logged on for the 1st time in 20 days, because I’m over THAT shit too). They aren’t really trying to connect, they just want to browse and kill time. Maybe they’ll get around to meeting, one day. I don’t have time for that. Keep it moving 
 

 

[BuffaloKyle]

15 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Same with the Grindr circuit (which I logged on for the 1st time in 20 days, because I’m over THAT shit too). They aren’t really trying to connect, they just want to browse and kill time. Maybe they’ll get around to meeting, one day. I don’t have time for that. Keep it moving 

This is exactly why I turned to hiring. I got so sick of the games on regular hookup sites. So many pic & vid collectors, then they suddenly can't host or travel when they said they could, then they ask me to get a hotel room, then if we do meet they are older than they said, don't look like their pics, or have horrible hygiene. When I want to relax and have a good time because I don't have all the free time in the world I'd like to enjoy it. That's my rant for the day! 🤪

So I think I'm a better client because of all that because I know how it sucks to be played and ghosted. 

[+ JEC]

I also find this frustrating.   As someone who plays on the DL and having a very busy job & life I always have to schedule my visits in advance.   Having a few days notice significantly increases the likelihood I can connect with someone.  Jack

[+ DrownedBoy]

1 hour ago, JEC said:

I also find this frustrating.   As someone who plays on the DL and having a very busy job & life I always have to schedule my visits in advance.   Having a few days notice significantly increases the likelihood I can connect with someone.  Jack

Ditto (although not so DL). When you have a demanding job, and a guy is going to visit only on a weekday or two, there's no way I can just drop everything. 

This is made harder because,  since they're only in for a night or two, I'll be outbid by anyone who wants an overnight. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

11 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Ditto (although not so DL). When you have a demanding job, and a guy is going to visit only on a weekday or two, there's no way I can just drop everything. 

This is made harder because,  since they're only in for a night or two, I'll be outbid by anyone who wants an overnight. 

Well, what’s the incentive for someone to stay much longer? And what region are you in? 

One thing that has to be remembered, hotels are EXPENSIVE. And I’m not just talking the ritz or Westin. Even so called “budget” hotels can end up costing $150+ just to check in for 1 night. If they ask for a $100 deposit (which is becoming even more common in budget hotels) which is why I’ve been using them less often.

So, to just hang around a city for days and days on end, is not a smart move unless it’s actually busy like that. I’ve done that before, mainly in DC, Phoenix, Denver. But, if it’s not steady enough, it can start to feel like a casino: break even, break even. Get a couple wins, then you’re paying money back into the lodging.

Like I say, probably best compromise is to either just be ready or sometimes: I’ll even stay in a destination longer if a client sends a deposit. Like, if I’m planning to leave, but it won’t hurt to stay, I’ve asked for deposits and extended my room for an extra day or so. But not much beyond a couple days. I won’t extend a whole week if I’m not planning to.

[+ JEC]

@Jarrod_Uncut the point is not to stay longer, it's to post your availability before you arrive in a new city.  I'm generally looking to schedule 1-2 weeks out.  When I see a provider "pop up" who I would like to see I can rarely meet that same day, or even next 48 hours.  

[Jarrod_Uncut]

16 hours ago, JEC said:

@Jarrod_Uncut the point is not to stay longer, it's to post your availability before you arrive in a new city.  I'm generally looking to schedule 1-2 weeks out.  When I see a provider "pop up" who I would like to see I can rarely meet that same day, or even next 48 hours.  

Right, but that’s just one of the parts to the equation. There’s been plenty times where I’ve advertised in advance, but someone still managed to contact me as I was checking out of the hotel with a cart full of luggage. 
 

But otherwise yes, in theory it is better and practical to advertise in advance of going to a city. However, if someone is say; a flight attendant (and I’ve discussed the caveats of trying to be a flight attendant and escort before)…you won’t really know too far ahead. They’ll just pop up.

I knew a guy who flew into Phoenix at 4 p.m. and was out of there by 5 a.m. hypothetically if he was an escort he coulda squeezed a client or 2 in. But that’s not a conducive way to plan an actual escort tour in real life. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

@Jarrod_UncutI understand how sometimes escorts don't have a choice for short-term, short-stay visits.

But from a client's perspective, that doesn't matter. If a client is busy during that time (and for short visits we're more likely to be), then we're simply not going to hire. It's just business.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

@Jarrod_UncutI understand how sometimes escorts don't have a choice for short-term, short-stay visits.

But from a client's perspective, that doesn't matter. If a client is busy during that time (and for short visits we're more likely to be), then we're simply not going to hire. It's just business.

Well it goes both ways. I had to turn a client down yesterday because he reached out to me right after a late morning/noon appointment, and hit me up out the blue saying he could ONLY meet at 2 p.m. When I tried to suggest meeting at 3:30/4 or the next day, he wasn’t able to do that.

I understand clients and people in general may be busy, but sometimes shit isn’t my fault. I feel in some ways, clients “create” problems for us unintentionally. Can’t name how many times someone has contacted me and rushed me to meet with no notice or flexibility in their schedule. I can’t do much if you only have 1 hour out of 24 hours to meet. Don’t come to me wanting a solution, but not willing to be patient.

At the end of the day, I’ve realized clients and escorts can be very different in the perception of time sometimes. I know that’s just the way it is, due to the sometimes spontaneous nature of the biz…but it’s easy to get frustrated and burned out when clients expect miracles without much consideration.

For example: yesterday I wanted to go to the gym at the time the client contacted me. I haven’t been all week, and was intending to do that. I started to just take the appointment, but I needed more time in between my last appointment also. But in that situation, it’s like “I don’t care what you’re in the middle of, I need to see you at 2 and only 2.” 
 

However, when I try to get clients to change their plans around, they can rarely ever do it. But I feel we are  expected to when they want to meet. That’s bullshit. So I just be like, if you don’t want to change your schedule for me, don’t expect me to change my schedule for you. You don’t get superiority just because you’re paying. I’ve gotten to a point where I’ll tell people, my time is just as important as yours.

I hate losing money and turning people down, but dignity and respect is a price to pay as well. And I find when I allow it once, they expect it again and again, and eventually the interaction fails.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut