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hey all,

so I will jump right into this slight issue I am having. long story short... business has been slowing. I still have my regulars (which I am very happy about!) but as far as new inquiries are concerned, things have really dried up. I'm sure Covid has alot to do with that but I was looking to begin advertising on more sites anyways so this may just be the push I need. My question is..... I am only advertising as of now on thebestflex. I am not super familiar with other websites at this point in time. If you were me looking to get new clients and the most eyeballs seeing your ad what would be your next place to start advertising? where do you look for guys yourself ? rentmen?

P.S Everyone i've met with has really liked the service they have received so it's not me as cocky as that may sound ha. If I had to guess id say 50% have done at the minimum 1 repeat. I really do enjoy what I do, the people I meet, and do a good job for everyone I meet with. always discreet, on time, and hygienic of course. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Bobby

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Hello Bobby.  It has been a pleasure to correspond with you in a couple different ways.  I hope you are doing well.  I am no expert - having only done 5 muscle worship hires in my life.  But I would suggest RentMen and this message forum.  Those are the places I look, along with BestFlex.  This forum must be one of the biggest around for muscle service, but other folks may know of more options.  If you can post here from time to time and develop a following, that will be a major step.  RentMen is great, but it does not allow providers and clients to interact like this forum does.  Aside from the business connections which can be built, it's also a chance to have public and private conversations with some really fine and interesting people (like you) and I'm sure that can lead to bookings.  Sure, you will run into some flakes jerks, but they can be found at your local CVS or Safeway, right?  You already have some fans on this forum and I think you can "grow" that base.  Count me as someone who would love a muscle worship meet-up at some point.... and also the opportunity to get to know you.  (Unless, of course, you are secretly an axe murderer or something like that.  LOL.)  Again, I hope all is well and that 2022 will be a top-notch year for you.  Thanks for posting here.

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@Bobby Biceps

yes, rentmen is the best other option.....and periodic posting in this forum.....as @crushme99 says.....

be clear ahead of time with any limits you have during a meet.....be honest and professional.....trust your first instincts.....there will be freaks, time-wasters, and bullshitters, unfortunately (you probably already realize that)......I'd also add a "signature" to your profile here in this forum that is your bestflex page link.....and add the rentmen one later if you set that up.....

the readers of this forum are mostly very good people, but are a small, small amount compared to the number of rentmen readers.....if you get an inquiry from a member of this forum, it probably has a lot more validity than a rentmen inquiry

as I said, continue posting here in the "Deli" forum and consider a rentmen profile....rentmen has a somewhat stiff monthly fee, but will result in many new inquiries compared to the relatively unknown bestflex site....be ready to wade thru dozens of contacts daily and learn how to tell who is serious and who isn't......lots to figure out

https://www.thebestflex.com/profile/Bobby-Biceps

for forum members interested, an earlier thread....

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/129810-bobby-biceps-nynjct-muscle-worship-a/

 

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I only hire off of rent.men and rentmasseur.com.  Other than the obvious type qualifiers, a few things I look at when I'm making a decision include:

  • Is the profile completely self-absorbed, or does the provider talk about how he takes care of others?
  • Did he invest some effort into his description.  I may be the only reader on Rent.Men, but I love a good, flirtatious description.
  • Is he into the same things I am? (Don't list everything, but check the things you enjoy)
  • Is he a good match in terms of position? (Don't say Ask Me)
  • Is there any discussion about him on this forum?
    • If you are friendly, have thick skin and are well-reviewed, I think participating here can be a plus.
  • Does he smile or at least look content? (I'm surprised by the number of middle fingers and angry looking people I find)
  • Does he have a face?  (It's OK if the face is only in the private photos, but providers should have a face)
  • Do the photos appear to be consistent?  (Some guys have 12 different looks spanning 8 years.  Don't do that)
    • Side Note, I would prefer 10-20 great photos over 100+ mediocre, dated photos.
  • Videos are also a plus, even if they are not erotic.  Somehow it is easier to get a feel for someone's image and personality from a video.
  • Does he have good reviews?
  • How long has he been listed?

Providers rarely check all my boxes, so I am a realist, but this is how I look at a profile.

On the one hand, the last two are the hardest.  On the other hand, I frequently see providers with 10+ reviews after only a couple of months.  If someone is listed for 5 years with 3 reviews, that is a red flag.  Likewise, if someone has 20 reviews in 6 months, that is a good sign.

After I make contact, I am looking for more than a one word answer and a rate that makes sense in the current market.  Rates that are too high or too low are indicative or no experience or a huge ego which is a turnoff for me personally.

Finally, I don't know why more providers don't create a simple website.  This is a great and inexpensive way to share a little more detail.  Here's an example of one I like:  https://www.meetmattanthony.com/

Perhaps this is TMI, but I hope it helps.

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What these guys said, Bobby. I'd love to meet you, but there's a lot of bad people on The Best Flex - usually a lot of homophobic bodybuilders who aren't willing to do anything with another guy.

You have to be extremely open on what you're willing to do to grab overnights. And RM is the place where you can list it.

 

EDIT: Also, I wish it didn't, but the Omicron scare will probably hamper both hiring and travel until early-to-mid-February in the States.

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On 1/15/2022 at 5:35 PM, crushme99 said:

Hello Bobby.  It has been a pleasure to correspond with you in a couple different ways.  I hope you are doing well.  I am no expert - having only done 5 muscle worship hires in my life.  But I would suggest RentMen and this message forum.  Those are the places I look, along with BestFlex.  This forum must be one of the biggest around for muscle service, but other folks may know of more options.  If you can post here from time to time and develop a following, that will be a major step.  RentMen is great, but it does not allow providers and clients to interact like this forum does.  Aside from the business connections which can be built, it's also a chance to have public and private conversations with some really fine and interesting people (like you) and I'm sure that can lead to bookings.  Sure, you will run into some flakes jerks, but they can be found at your local CVS or Safeway, right?  You already have some fans on this forum and I think you can "grow" that base.  Count me as someone who would love a muscle worship meet-up at some point.... and also the opportunity to get to know you.  (Unless, of course, you are secretly an axe murderer or something like that.  LOL.)  Again, I hope all is well and that 2022 will be a top-notch year for you.  Thanks for posting here.


haha i am definitely not the neighborhood axe murderer 

but thank you in all seriousness for the detailed response. From reading yours and everyone else’s it seems that rentmen is the next logical place to do so. And yes I will keep posting on the forums. Every time I do I always get a welcome response and l always learn something new which I really appreciate from members of the community. Thank you

bobby

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On 1/15/2022 at 6:37 PM, azdr0710 said:

@Bobby Biceps

yes, rentmen is the best other option.....and periodic posting in this forum.....as @crushme99 says.....

be clear ahead of time with any limits you have during a meet.....be honest and professional.....trust your first instincts.....there will be freaks, time-wasters, and bullshitters, unfortunately (you probably already realize that)......I'd also add a "signature" to your profile here in this forum that is your bestflex page link.....and add the rentmen one later if you set that up.....

the readers of this forum are mostly very good people, but are a small, small amount compared to the number of rentmen readers.....if you get an inquiry from a member of this forum, it probably has a lot more validity than a rentmen inquiry

as I said, continue posting here in the "Deli" forum and consider a rentmen profile....rentmen has a somewhat stiff monthly fee, but will result in many new inquiries compared to the relatively unknown bestflex site....be ready to wade thru dozens of contacts daily and learn how to tell who is serious and who isn't......lots to figure out

https://www.thebestflex.com/profile/Bobby-Biceps

for forum members interested, an earlier thread....

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/129810-bobby-biceps-nynjct-muscle-worship-a/

 

That makes rentment x2 !

i am already starting to develop that spider sense you are talking about when it comes to flakes or time wasters. Luckily for me I would say 90% of inquiries I get are serious one’s with a majority of those being eventual meetups. This is really one Of those situations where everyone I meet raves and is really happy but it is just a matter of getting in front of more eyeballs. Ive heard horror stories on providers either being not as advertised, chronically late, or just complete wastes of time and I want to do my part in changing that as best I can.

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On 1/15/2022 at 8:01 PM, jtwalker said:

I only hire off of rent.men and rentmasseur.com.  Other than the obvious type qualifiers, a few things I look at when I'm making a decision include:

  • Is the profile completely self-absorbed, or does the provider talk about how he takes care of others?
  • Did he invest some effort into his description.  I may be the only reader on Rent.Men, but I love a good, flirtatious description.
  • Is he into the same things I am? (Don't list everything, but check the things you enjoy)
  • Is he a good match in terms of position? (Don't say Ask Me)
  • Is there any discussion about him on this forum?
    • If you are friendly, have thick skin and are well-reviewed, I think participating here can be a plus.
  • Does he smile or at least look content? (I'm surprised by the number of middle fingers and angry looking people I find)
  • Does he have a face?  (It's OK if the face is only in the private photos, but providers should have a face)
  • Do the photos appear to be consistent?  (Some guys have 12 different looks spanning 8 years.  Don't do that)
    • Side Note, I would prefer 10-20 great photos over 100+ mediocre, dated photos.
  • Videos are also a plus, even if they are not erotic.  Somehow it is easier to get a feel for someone's image and personality from a video.
  • Does he have good reviews?
  • How long has he been listed?

Providers rarely check all my boxes, so I am a realist, but this is how I look at a profile.

On the one hand, the last two are the hardest.  On the other hand, I frequently see providers with 10+ reviews after only a couple of months.  If someone is listed for 5 years with 3 reviews, that is a red flag.  Likewise, if someone has 20 reviews in 6 months, that is a good sign.

After I make contact, I am looking for more than a one word answer and a rate that makes sense in the current market.  Rates that are too high or too low are indicative or no experience or a huge ego which is a turnoff for me personally.

Finally, I don't know why more providers don't create a simple website.  This is a great and inexpensive way to share a little more detail.  Here's an example of one I like:  https://www.meetmattanthony.com/

Perhaps this is TMI, but I hope it helps.

Got it will look into rentmasseur as well. Thank you for the input and thank you for explaining what a profile should look like in the eyes of a potential client. Really appreciate you taking the time to do that for me and will definitely make sure to include all the relevant information about my services in my profile. Love the idea of a website as well. Thats a smart move and definitely makes you stand out in a crowd for sure 

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17 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

What these guys said, Bobby. I'd love to meet you, but there's a lot of bad people on The Best Flex - usually a lot of homophobic bodybuilders who aren't willing to do anything with another guy.

You have to be extremely open on what you're willing to do to grab overnights. And RM is the place where you can list it.

 

EDIT: Also, I wish it didn't, but the Omicron scare will probably hamper both hiring and travel until early-to-mid-February in the States.

Thats really a shame the homophobia. I thought we were beyond the stone age where people could just live and be people but i guess not…

ok so it looks like rentmen is definitely going to be the move. I will probably wait until you said the virus calms down a little bit around the middle/end of Feb because I know Omnicron definitely has an effect on the rate of meetups

 

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19 minutes ago, Bobby Biceps said:


haha i am definitely not the neighborhood axe murderer 

but thank you in all seriousness for the detailed response. From reading yours and everyone else’s it seems that rentmen is the next logical place to do so. And yes I will keep posting on the forums. Every time I do I always get a welcome response and l always learn something new which I really appreciate from members of the community. Thank you

bobby

RM definitely is the $$ spot. But if you don't feel good advertising on an escort site (even as a "masseur"), Rentmasseur and Masseurfinder both work well for clients. I have friends who advertise on the masseur sites and make as much as those on RentMen with a lot less expectations. More clients at lower fee plus upsells and tips. 

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21 hours ago, tassojunior said:

RM definitely is the $$ spot. But if you don't feel good advertising on an escort site (even as a "masseur"), Rentmasseur and Masseurfinder both work well for clients. I have friends who advertise on the masseur sites and make as much as those on RentMen with a lot less expectations. More clients at lower fee plus upsells and tips. 

i like that idea alot. thank you for that that's 3 places I will definitely be advertising in the near future

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22 minutes ago, Bobby Biceps said:

i like that idea alot. thank you for that that's 3 places I will definitely be advertising in the near future

If you're going to go all-out RentMan there may not be any great advantage to Massuerfinder or RentMasseur in addition. They're all about $100/month I think. MF is mostly an alternative for guys who want to do less sexually and you certainly don't want to advertise on RentMan for $300 and $150 on RentMasseur at the same time. 

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The other thing you might want to consider is traveling a circuit. You might consider traveling from New York to D.C., to Atlanta, to Chicago, to San Francisco, and to Los Angeles as well as any other cities that interest you. Advertise well in advance before making a trip, post your travel plans on your Rentmen page and give specific date where you will be. Many of the most successful escort I know do quite a bit of traveling. You might even consider attending the Palm Springs Weekend in April. The guys who participate on this site as a "general" rule hire escorts, respect escorts, appreciate the services they provide and do NOT jack them around or waste their time. If you find yourself in Southern California I'm definitely open to setting up a get together.

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