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Would be helpful if some people can chime in on this. I am curious. I find myself competing for a providers time, and I think whats going on behind the scenes ( without telling me ) is a provider is probably juggling a 1-2 hour appointment plus an overnight, followed by a possible multi day engagement later in the week that involves travel. .Let just say I am usually the 1-2 hour appointment. 

 

It would be helpful if people could share how providers manage their time. 

- What are your busiest days? ( I assume weekends/Friday?) . Its that true.

- How many appointments do you cram in a day?

- How much time do you spend at the gym? [ most providers I speak to are at the gym 6 days a week]

- How many clients do you see on a typical week? .  I keep hearing 2-3 a week….

- Do you have slow seasons, i.e are the holidays, Christmas slow?  

 

Thank you for your insights. 

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This question gets asked every few months and I doubt you’ll get a straight answer. Any answer viewed unfavorably in the eyes of clients will paint the escort in a bad light. 
 

if an escort says he takes what is deemed as too many clients, he’s seen as a numbers game escort. If he says too few, he may seem undesirable. Not to mention nothing is ever certain.  
 

ill say this: most anything you think about this industry is counterintuitive. What you think as a client is not always the case. 

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On 9/22/2021 at 8:54 AM, jetlow said:

Would be helpful if some people can chime in on this. I am curious. I find myself competing for a providers time, and I think whats going on behind the scenes ( without telling me ) is a provider is probably juggling a 1-2 hour appointment plus an overnight, followed by a possible multi day engagement later in the week that involves travel. .Let just say I am usually the 1-2 hour appointment. 

 

It would be helpful if people could share how providers manage their time. 

- What are your busiest days? ( I assume weekends/Friday?) . Its that true.

- How many appointments do you cram in a day?

- How much time do you spend at the gym? [ most providers I speak to are at the gym 6 days a week]

- How many clients do you see on a typical week? .  I keep hearing 2-3 a week….

- Do you have slow seasons, i.e are the holidays, Christmas slow?  

 

Thank you for your insights. 

Way too many variables at play here. Especially the "what are busiest days" as that can vary wildly. Though I can say: Friday's usually are consistently the most likely day of the week to get an appointment. If I don't get a booking any other day of the week, I can usually count on Friday. One Friday when I was visiting a city last month, I had 4!! appointments in one day. Almost a world record, but it was spread out evenly from 9 a.m. to midnight... so I had time to relax in between. However Friday in Kansas City seems to always be bookings wanting like before 4 or 5 pm, and I'm sometimes not available until Friday evening.

As for competing for escorts time, like @Shawn Monroe said, no point in making up things in your head or thinking stuff that might not be true. People often think we're busy with clients only. Nope. You never know WHAT is going on. And I hate when prospective clients say stuff like, "sounds like you're busy, or your dance card is full" or anything that suggests they're getting impatient and assuming it's because I'm entertaining other clients. 

On a typical day, I could be doing anything from barbecuing on the patio, to detailing my vehicle, or standing in line at a store, or doing technical edits to my ad or other things, at the gym, the movies, the barbershop, with a friend, at a pool, sitting in traffic, driving, etc etc. 

Actually client sessions take up a very small percentage of my time spent each week. I'm not sitting in some boudoir with a window facing a busy street, just waiting for the next client. That's a stereotype. Online escorting has given us the freedom to not have to be constantly on the ready. However, lately it seems like I'm often always having to be plugged in: answering texts, RM messengers, round the clock. I'm not complaining to be in demand, but some days I feel like I don't get enough time to focus on myself, because as soon as I commit to an activity or project, a client will contact and want a visit. Which is great, but many don't do it with hardly any notice. It's just very bizarre.

One guy contacted me today on RM messenger asking if I'm available tonight. Less than an hour later, he says he can't because a friend is flying in early so he couldn’t host (and I don’t host same day appointments). Understandable things happen, but I did take gym time out to correspond, so that is an unnecessary distraction without a productive outcome.

That's why lately, I'm contemplating taking a step to no longer take same day appointments when I'm home locally. Travel wise it's okay, but not when I'm home. I can't stand to be rushed off my feet to meet when I'm at home, in the same manner as if I was traveling staying in a hotel. 

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12 hours ago, Shawn Monroe said:

ll say this: most anything you think about this industry is counterintuitive. What you think as a client is not always the case. 

That’s the truest thing I’ve seen. Totally agree. Before I worked in the industry I had all sorts of beliefs about how things worked and based on my experience they were all wrong! 
 

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Okay: addressing point by point…

 

1). - What are your busiest days? ( I assume weekends/Friday?) . Its that true. 
 Answer: proper 20 years I have never paid attention to the day of the week. Quite frankly, it doesn’t matter. The only thing I really concern myself with is the date because it dictates whether I’m flying someplace or staying put~ any day of the week can be my busiest day… When active in the adult film industry, my schedule was primarily dictated by Jewish holidays because the productions themselves were often funded by a number of people adhering to those holidays. Filming would end around September and pick up again after Passover and then again in july. Busy times can be affected by the economy, changes in law regarding the adult industry, lunar holidays versus local and federal holidays, holidays were straight boys are out drinking and eating food Are not as popular as religious holidays where people are actually a little stressed out and looking for some time away from that stress… On the other hand, some big gay events fall on food and party holidays. There’s IML, various gay prides, porn awards, Southern decadence, Folsom and Dory alley etc… All of these things can have their influence. Majority of my clientele our straight identifying males, couples and females. They hire differently than my clients who self identify as gay. Since I travel globally in this profession, holidays and festivals around the world influence how I am hired and by who. Las Fallas, (Valencia), is in July, Flam e Flot, (marseille) is in March or something… Kurentovanje festival (Slovenia), is in February… Castles in Austria don’t open until April~ etc~ Hot springs in northern italy have heavy traffic times and light traffic times. 

2). - How many appointments do you cram in a day?

 Answer: One Client per day. Anything more in my eyes compensates the quality of my time with another client if I were to ever do that. If I was on the hiring end of things and somebody told me they could not perform because they were saving their energy for somebody else after me or didn’t have enough energy because they just saw five other people before me and they were rushing to get out of the door because they had some other appointment to get to: I would be reluctant to pay them. What an awkward position to put a Client in~ what an awkward potion to oneself in who is trying to provide~ through the course of years I have known people to do this but, you can only survive on Viagra and Caverject for so long before it starts to have an impact on your Well-being~ For me personally, I have found it better to pace myself so that I can provide a better service.

3). - How much time do you spend at the gym? [ most providers I speak to are at the gym 6 days a week]

 answer: while I have done the gym thing, it’s really incredibly boring to me. I prefer to shovel gravel and drag logs around the yard… Use my shovel to manually dig out hundred foot tall trees. I try to incorporate some of my exercise with my longer-term appointments. Maybe we climb mountains for the day, traversing 14 miles at a time… Maybe we go scuba diving… Maybe we go explore some cool ancient city where we wake up at the crack of dawn and don’t come home until the sun goes down. Sometimes my clients and I go kayaking or canoeing…  snowboarding and skiing have been past adventures. Those things are a lot of fun and I like doing them together with my Clients~ I get completely bored just exercising by myself doing repetitive motions in a gym. I have strength but, my endurance capability is stronger. 

4). - How many clients do you see on a typical week? .  I keep hearing 2-3 a week….

 Answer: again… It’s not a simple answer. Sometimes I am seeing a client the entirety of a single week or on up to two months for my longest appointments. A lot of it has to do with where I am traveling. I tend to be pretty busy when I am touring and then space my clients out when I am at one of my home bases. 
 I have six home bases spaced out around the world. Sometimes I travel to one of those places because I know there’s not gonna be so much work for me. Other times I go to places that I know I will be completely busy on going. Over the years I have learned to moderate my time to balance out my energy and well-being~ there is no set formula or precise average to the number of people I see at any given time. I think in part that is due to the fact that I schedule things far in advance. I don’t rely on a hopeful day to day hire situation. I’ve developed what I do into a format where I’m scheduling things weeks to months to years in advance. 
 

5). - Do you have slow seasons, i.e are the holidays, Christmas slow?  Answer: There are highs and lows I think in every profession. I address this above noting holidays, travel structure, Clients needs and health, (sometimes age related changes and sometimes they are actually passing away and I go there to be with them)… Sometimes things are quiet or heavy depending on politics, changes in law, changes an income and general health… I safely saw three Clients on and off during 2020. The rest of my time was dedicated towards an essential worker job and some other safe work~ I really did not see Clients through Covid 2020. I know a number of people did work during the pandemic.
 I did not feel it was the right thing for me to do. I have a long list of people who were affected by Covid and that includes six of my Clients who passed away from the desease and another 12 who have had ongoing complications as long haulers from the Delta variant. 
 Those things certainly affected my workload. 
 

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On 9/24/2021 at 12:26 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Way too many variables at play here. Especially the "what are busiest days" as that can vary wildly. Though I can say: Friday's usually are consistently the most likely day of the week to get an appointment. If I don't get a booking any other day of the week, I can usually count on Friday. One Friday when I was visiting a city last month, I had 4!! appointments in one day. Almost a world record, but it was spread out evenly from 9 a.m. to midnight... so I had time to relax in between. However Friday in Kansas City seems to always be bookings wanting like before 4 or 5 pm, and I'm sometimes not available until Friday evening.

As for competing for escorts time, like @Shawn Monroe said, no point in making up things in your head or thinking stuff that might not be true. People often think we're busy with clients only. Nope. You never know WHAT is going on. And I hate when prospective clients say stuff like, "sounds like you're busy, or your dance card is full" or anything that suggests they're getting impatient and assuming it's because I'm entertaining other clients. 

On a typical day, I could be doing anything from barbecuing on the patio, to detailing my vehicle, or standing in line at a store, or doing technical edits to my ad or other things, at the gym, the movies, the barbershop, with a friend, at a pool, sitting in traffic, driving, etc etc. 

Actually client sessions take up a very small percentage of my time spent each week. I'm not sitting in some boudoir with a window facing a busy street, just waiting for the next client. That's a stereotype. Online escorting has given us the freedom to not have to be constantly on the ready. However, lately it seems like I'm often always having to be plugged in: answering texts, RM messengers, round the clock. I'm not complaining to be in demand, but some days I feel like I don't get enough time to focus on myself, because as soon as I commit to an activity or project, a client will contact and want a visit. Which is great, but many don't do it with hardly any notice. It's just very bizarre.

One guy contacted me today on RM messenger asking if I'm available tonight. Less than an hour later, he says he can't because a friend is flying in early so he couldn’t host (and I don’t host same day appointments). Understandable things happen, but I did take gym time out to correspond, so that is an unnecessary distraction without a productive outcome.

That's why lately, I'm contemplating taking a step to no longer take same day appointments when I'm home locally. Travel wise it's okay, but not when I'm home. I can't stand to be rushed off my feet to meet when I'm at home, in the same manner as if I was traveling staying in a hotel. 

Yes… excellent point~!!! Contrary to some belief, Service Providers are sometimes spending time with their families, partners, working other jobs, doing laundry, going to the dentist, cooking and eating dinner, relaxing in the tub or enjoying the sunset alone or with a friend. Sometimes we’re sitting at an auto dealership how do oil has been changed on our cars… Some of us are maybe at a barber or doing some voluntary work at a homeless shelter, community center, advocating for gay marriage or equal rights~ We are human beings with personal needs and desires too~ Our lives have basic human needs components. 

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On 9/23/2021 at 2:26 PM, Shawn Monroe said:

This question gets asked every few months and I doubt you’ll get a straight answer. Any answer viewed unfavorably in the eyes of clients will paint the escort in a bad light. 
 

if an escort says he takes what is deemed as too many clients, he’s seen as a numbers game escort. If he says too few, he may seem undesirable. Not to mention nothing is ever certain.  
 

 

 You have a very good point when you say that what people typically think about this industry, about Clients and Service providers has a tendency to be both stereotyped and stigmatized~ Both of those things are additionally, conditional and specific to various generations. Different generations have grown up with different ideas about what service provision is and how  providers as citizens and people are to be valued~ One generation grew up in a time where homosexuality was not only illegal but a mental disease… I don’t even mean disorder I mean disease. Another generation grew up after stonewall, after the aids crisis and enjoyed the liberties that the generation before them fought so hard for. Still another group of people have grown up with coronavirus. Sometimes we teach each other through mentorship other times we simply sport about with our own personal opinions. There is no right or wrong to that. I think that it’s simply reality to a certain extent.
 That’s not always the case but, I do observe it~ 
 
 The industry really took on a new form when HooBoy started this forum and review site. It challenged previous beliefs about who we were as individuals and as a community… it challenged what we had to offer as providers, created a safety from street hustling and raised the bar on expectations for both Clients and Service Providers~ Thank you: HooBoy, Daddy and Current moderators for this essential and beneficial service~!!!
  When the previous administration changed human trafficking laws a few years ago,  it effected not only the adult film industry but, also the Escort and prostitution industry, essentially lumping everyone together under a drug control effort and surveillance of potential trafficking of miners~
  This also included how state and local agencies run sti clinics: some places diminished a person’s anonymity and now ask questions regarding whether the person being tested exchanges sexual services for cash and has any children~ This especially effects a number of the female courtesans.  
   A number of agencies that female courtesans used to work through were forced to shut down. (Madison amd back page).

 Their privacy during screening for STI‘s was not assured and it made it more difficult for these providers to get sti screening~ When that happened, safety also decreased and some percentage of women providers went back to street walking.

 Our attitudes in this country have been challenged and evolving to greater and lesser degrees depending on the political climate… It is both my hope and pursuit to eventually have this profession of escorting and prostitution legalized. I’m fine with paying taxes. I would even like to see a union and some health insurance coverage and incentives for both Providers and Clients to get STI screening. We are sexual beings and people are not gonna stop having sex. It’s important that we advocate to make it legal and safe. Some of that will take sheer ambition, organization and strength… Some of that will take patience and understanding… And coming back to your original point, there is a great need to overcome the negative stereotyping and stigmatizing that is too easily excepted in this country

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I find the US attitude to sex work is very prudish and I’m some ways puritanical. It’s legal here in UK and most of Europe. I hope one day it shall be considered to be normal, and open. Some regulation also to stop people trafficking and ensure standards are high, whether that’s industry rates government led. In meantime we should continue to try to change attitudes, challenge prejudices and educate the ignorant. Sex work is good work, it satisfies a demand and is important to society. I find it rewarding and enjoyable to do sex work. 

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2 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I find the US attitude to sex work is very prudish and I’m some ways puritanical. It’s legal here in UK and most of Europe. I hope one day it shall be considered to be normal, and open. Some regulation also to stop people trafficking and ensure standards are high, whether that’s industry rates government led. In meantime we should continue to try to change attitudes, challenge prejudices and educate the ignorant. Sex work is good work, it satisfies a demand and is important to society. I find it rewarding and enjoyable to do sex work. 

Sex work might also be designated as essential work and the providers essential providers. It satisfies a demand as you say and also a need, (needs), within society itself. Intimacy and a safe outlet for the human condition is essential for the safety of society~ often times it seems that this industry is diminished to a microscopic singles element of “sex”… but, the industry has so much more to offer: intimacy guidance, relationship building, health management, emotional and psychological support… training and sharing in the arts, science, law/politics, provision of camaraderie as well as counsel… it’s a way to educate people about not only sexuality but sensuality, love, intimacy.  
 There is the sexual Provider, Geisha Companion, Escort Provider… each are different but essential~ 

 Not excepting this profession isn’t just ignorance, (actively ignoring its existence and importance), but, damaging to society. 
 Historically in the past when oppression has been the modus operandi for service provision, sex crimes have increased, incidence of sexually transmitted diseases increased… It not unreasonable to compare statistics with countries that accept prostitution and escorting to countries where it’s oppressed~ It’s not unreasonable to strive for change~ 

 

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22 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I find the US attitude to sex work is very prudish and I’m some ways puritanical. It’s legal here in UK and most of Europe. I hope one day it shall be considered to be normal, and open. Some regulation also to stop people trafficking and ensure standards are high, whether that’s industry rates government led. In meantime we should continue to try to change attitudes, challenge prejudices and educate the ignorant. Sex work is good work, it satisfies a demand and is important to society. I find it rewarding and enjoyable to do sex work. 

Your assessment is true, but the actual word would be ignorant and hypocritical. People in America Play like they are prudish and puritanical, but then are out here fucking other guy’s partners, Pnp, hooking up with married men/women, etc. that’s not to dismiss anyone who does, but they have the nerve to turn their nose up at someone who does sex work, but don’t think twice about putting a stranger’s dick or ass in their mouth who they just met off an app a few minutes ago. 
 

Last time I checked, that’s prostitution. Bitch 😆 (not referring to you, but to the American gay community in general)

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