PSA regarding GostosoXL & Gabriel_strong

[Guest Swimmerfan]

Regarding these two "masseurs/escorts" 

 https://rent.men/GostosoXL or https://rentmasseur.com/GostosoXL

https://rentmasseur.com/Gabriel_strong or https://rent.men/LyonMasterX

Avoid at all costs. PM for details 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2021 by Swimmerfan

[thedanNYC]

Why not just give us the details here? That's okay to do. 

[Deadlift1]

This is becoming more common on this site.  PM, DM, BM.  It's like playing I got a secret...

[Guest Swimmerfan]

MODERATOR NOTE:  Reviews are not acceptable in the Spa Forum.  Please look forward to the new section for review of massage providers coming in the review section soon.  This post has been edited to leave content that don't equate to a review.  

 

Ok, I wasn't sure if that was accepted but here goes: 

So I didn't realize they were an item until recently. First it was Gabriel. We made plans to meet one day for a massage. He offered massage and full service rates which I chose massage only, albeit erotic. He came back and wanted to change the time which was fine but then requested he'd need more $$. When I told him no, he backed off but just seemed flaky from the start. It's either you want to or not, ya know what I mean. I decided it wasn't worth my time and cancelled altogether. He kept texting me after that until I blocked him.

Fast forwarding, I scheduled an erotic massage with Matteo (who previously went under the profile name Mason amoung others that he's since changed) with a HE. He provides an address that is across the street from where he actually is which is no biggie, I get it. The problem is the service itself.  [Remaining content constitutes a review and has been deleted.]

Too many better options out there than these two clowns. 

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[BeefyDude]

10 hours ago, Deadlift1 said:

This is becoming more common on this site.  PM, DM, BM.  It's like playing I got a secret...

I agree with you.  However, coming from someone who was (temporarily) BANNED here for posting reviews, I get what he is doing.

I honestly NEVER understood why we can't post a a review or share "experience".  After all this site is here to help others.

Hell if I can avoid someone and save $$ or help someone to avoid that - thats a WIN in my book.

I really wish this site would allow for it OR perhaps create another category for reviews.

Moderators are you seeing this

[BeefyDude]

10 hours ago, Swimmerfan said:

Ok, I wasn't sure if that was accepted but here goes: 

So I didn't realize they were an item until recently. First it was Gabriel. We made plans to meet one day for a massage. He offered massage and full service rates which I chose massage only, albeit erotic. He came back and wanted to change the time which was fine but then requested he'd need more $$. When I told him no, he backed off but just seemed flaky from the start. It's either you want to or not, ya know what I mean. I decided it wasn't worth my time and cancelled altogether. He kept texting me after that until I blocked him.

Fast forwarding, I scheduled an erotic massage with Matteo (who previously went under the profile name Mason amoung others that he's since changed) with a HE. He provides an address that is across the street from where he actually is which is no biggie, I get it. The problem is the service itself. The massage is amateurish at best. Slathers you in baby oil on a table in a hallway. No actual massage techniques whatsoever and he was rushing the entire them. Also, was dripping sweat all over me and a drop even went in my eye. When it came time to the HE, he took my hand, placed it on my privates, and wanted me to do my own HE which is not what I was looking for. Even if he didn't actually give you a HJ, say that upfront and be clear. In any case, I cut the session short and decided to pay him just half of his fee since the whole experience was less than 30 min. Well, who told me to do that because that pissed him off so he calls for reinforcements aptly named "Babe" which, low and behold is Mr. Gabe Strong ready to get in your face. Now obviously, I'm not about to get into a fight and have it be 2 against 1, so I had no choice but to pay him the full rate. Lesson learned on my end but I felt it necessary to left folks know the real deal. Too many better options out there than these two clowns. 

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So sorry for your experience.  I wish this site would allow for posts like yours without the fear of being banned

[Guest Swimmerfan]

27 minutes ago, BeefyDude said:

So sorry for your experience.  I wish this site would allow for posts like yours without the fear of being banned

Thank you. It may get removed but it's already been seen quite a bit so I hope it has made a difference because it was an awful experience. And to boot, I suffer from lower back pain and sciatica which was fine until the "massage" that caused it to flare up. I left in excruciating pain which is another reason I decided to avoid a physical confrontation. I'll stick to the professionals from now on and just leave my clothes on. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[BeefyDude]

WOW.. again so sorry to hear that...

Again wish we could post reviews or at least detailed experiences

Perhaps another channel here (similar to SPA) for that?

[eastietop]

Wow, I was thinking about booking Gabriel. Thanks for saving me the aggravation and money. Sorry to had to deal with all that though. Stay safe!

[Deadlift1]

I'm sorry to those that have been banned for giving so called reviews.  Now I understand the hesitancy for sharing information.   I also see a lot of great changes to the site.  Let's keep a smooth flow of ideas.

[Deadlift1]

5 hours ago, BeefyDude said:

WOW.. again so sorry to hear that...

Again wish we could post reviews or at least detailed experiences

Perhaps another channel here (similar to SPA) for that?

I think that's a great idea.  Keep the review section simple.

[Deadlift1]

I also give credit to the op to try and cut the session and the payment down.  What he had to call in "babe" to settle things? What a piece of ****.  I would of felt the same way.  But it's not worth the risk escalating with these clowns.

[+ glutes]

Gabe the Babe, ha!

Matteo/Mason got the full fee, but just lost a lot of other fees.

[BeefyDude]

5 hours ago, Deadlift1 said:

I'm sorry to those that have been banned for giving so called reviews.  Now I understand the hesitancy for sharing information.   I also see a lot of great changes to the site.  Let's keep a smooth flow of ideas.

Thanks Deadlift.. .One BIG change would be to allow for reviews perhaps via another channel (like spa etc).

If its done properly it can work. Hell I dont even know why it was never allowed to begin with.

For stories like the one here, it could and would save others valuable time and money.

Can this site seriously look into that

[Monarchy79]

Once someone is either cheated out of their money, or intimidated by a provider, it shouldn’t be considered a “review, but more of a “warning”. 
 

Thanks for the warning. 

[+ glutes]

1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said:

Once someone is either cheated out of their money, or intimidated by a provider, it shouldn’t be considered a “review, but more of a “warning”. 
 

Thanks for the warning. 

 

+1

Edited August 23, 2021 by glutes

[dcsmlxl]

Speaking from a terrible experience with a different provider, just pay the full fee, even if you have been cheated out of time or his profile was misleading, or you were simply duped into hiring someone you otherwise would not.  If he is inclined to dupe you or cheat you, he is unlikely to have any qualms about hurting you more over a few dollars.  Trust me.  Whatever precautions you take—different name, different phone number—if he wants to find you, he will. Just pay him his full fee and use it as a reminder to sufficiently vet a potential masseur before hiring. 

[+ glutes]

1 hour ago, dcsmlxl said:

 Just pay him his full fee and use it as a reminder to sufficiently vet a potential masseur before hiring. 

 

And then put out a PSA here to warn other brothers and sisters.

[Deadlift1]

16 hours ago, BeefyDude said:

Thanks Deadlift.. .One BIG change would be to allow for reviews perhaps via another channel (like spa etc).

If its done properly it can work. Hell I dont even know why it was never allowed to begin with.

For stories like the one here, it could and would save others valuable time and money.

Can this site seriously look into that

BD look on the forum site news.  There is info of what is in the works for the site.  If it's not already mentioned u can bring it up there.

[NJ_hiker]

On 8/21/2021 at 9:26 PM, Swimmerfan said:

Ok, I wasn't sure if that was accepted but here goes: 

So I didn't realize they were an item until recently. First it was Gabriel. We made plans to meet one day for a massage. He offered massage and full service rates which I chose massage only, albeit erotic. He came back and wanted to change the time which was fine but then requested he'd need more $$. When I told him no, he backed off but just seemed flaky from the start. It's either you want to or not, ya know what I mean. I decided it wasn't worth my time and cancelled altogether. He kept texting me after that until I blocked him.

Fast forwarding, I scheduled an erotic massage with Matteo (who previously went under the profile name Mason amoung others that he's since changed) with a HE. He provides an address that is across the street from where he actually is which is no biggie, I get it. The problem is the service itself. The massage is amateurish at best. Slathers you in baby oil on a table in a hallway. No actual massage techniques whatsoever and he was rushing the entire them. Also, was dripping sweat all over me and a drop even went in my eye. When it came time to the HE, he took my hand, placed it on my privates, and wanted me to do my own HE which is not what I was looking for. Even if he didn't actually give you a HJ, say that upfront and be clear. In any case, I cut the session short and decided to pay him just half of his fee since the whole experience was less than 30 min. Well, who told me to do that because that pissed him off so he calls for reinforcements aptly named "Babe" which, low and behold is Mr. Gabe Strong ready to get in your face. Now obviously, I'm not about to get into a fight and have it be 2 against 1, so I had no choice but to pay him the full rate. Lesson learned on my end but I felt it necessary to left folks know the real deal. Too many better options out there than these two clowns. 

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I'm sorry to hear about your experience, and thanks for warning us all. It's much appreciated. 

[BeefyDude]

4 hours ago, Deadlift1 said:

BD look on the forum site news.  There is info of what is in the works for the site.  If it's not already mentioned u can bring it up there.

I did and saw something but not concrete.  Reached out to an Admin.  They are testing it with escorts first then may roll it out to masseurs.  Baby steps

 

[+ MysticMenace]

Quoting excerpts from The Guidelines...determination of whether the post is a review is a judgment call (rule #10). However, this rule appears to also extend to private messages (rule #14). 

10. Reviews of Escorts and Masseurs are only permitted in the Reviews section.  Do not post reviews in the individual Forums.  The determination of whether a post is a review may require a judgment call.  Each violation will result in the poster being asked to resubmit the review in the “Reviews” section of the site and the review being moved from the Forum.  Repeated offenses will result in a warning being issued with 10 points that shall remain on the user’s account for 6 months.

14.  The rules of M4M Message Forums applies to private messages.  This site includes a feature for members to exchange private messages.  Although those private messages are not moderated, the rules for the Forum still apply.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

On 8/22/2021 at 8:19 AM, BeefyDude said:

I agree with you.  However, coming from someone who was (temporarily) BANNED here for posting reviews, I get what he is doing.

I honestly NEVER understood why we can't post a a review or share "experience".  After all this site is here to help others.

Hell if I can avoid someone and save $$ or help someone to avoid that - thats a WIN in my book.

I really wish this site would allow for it OR perhaps create another category for reviews.

Moderators are you seeing this

@BeefyDude Please see the message thread that is pinned to the top of "The Spa" that addresses the development of a new section for reviews of masseurs.  Just be patient as the site administrators and moderators are putting together the templates for these reviews so we make sure not to jeopardize the licensing of those providers that do business in states that require the licensing. 

 

[Cjay18]

I have encountered them as well. Had a great first massage with both. Matteo showed his true colors after i had my second with Gabriel. Gabriel comes off as a sweetheart but i am starting to think he is the brains behind the scams.

[Cjay18]

On 8/23/2021 at 12:14 AM, glutes said:

 

+1

I agree. Let me warn you. They are playing a scam. While i did have 4 good massages (one from matteo and three from gabriel) it has recently turned into a shit show and my 4th massage was barely a rushed rubbing that was under 30 minutes. I got suckered into believing Gabriel was a great guy. He is not.