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Just venting...

 

It sure is annoying spending $12 for a months subscription and then finding out that the videos are all around 2 minutes long and are simply teasers for 10 minute videos at $25 a pop, or joining a site just before the “performer” says he is going to take a break.

 

That being said, some performers like Dato Foland put a lot of work into their content and provide good value.

 

Any recommended OFs performers?

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Can you describe the parts of Dato's content distribution that differs from the people you're complaining about?

 

Is the content he posts longer, more exciting, etc.? Do you ever feel like the 10-minute videos are ever worth $25? If subscription price is ~$10/month, what would you consider a reasonable price for a "full" video - if at all?

 

Just curious and looking to engage anyone who's willing to share their opinion of the topic.

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Can you describe the parts of Dato's content distribution that differs from the people you're complaining about?

 

Is the content he posts longer, more exciting, etc.? Do you ever feel like the 10-minute videos are ever worth $25? If the subscription price is ~$10/month, what would you consider a reasonable price for a "full" video - if at all?

 

Just curious and looking to engage anyone who's willing to share their opinion of the topic.

Dato charges $12/month. He has 85 videos posted, most of which are full length at around 30 minutes. I find the videos to be very good. He's totally vers. IMHO if a provider is going to use OFs to sell full-length videos, then the OFs subscription should only be a few dollars. Don't try and make money on both the subscription and video sales.

 

Of course, content providers are free to do what they want and I am free to subscribe or not. Although with OFs you don't know what you are getting until you subscribe.

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Can you describe the parts of Dato's content distribution that differs from the people you're complaining about?

 

Is the content he posts longer, more exciting, etc.? Do you ever feel like the 10-minute videos are ever worth $25? If subscription price is ~$10/month, what would you consider a reasonable price for a "full" video - if at all?

 

Just curious and looking to engage anyone who's willing to share their opinion of the topic.

The best OnlyFans I've subscribed to are the ones that don't have any pay-per-view at all but put their full content on their main timeline. Fulltimepapi and Matthew Camp do this and. More often than not I've found that the ones that have only teasers on their main timeline (which they already charge for) have very underwhelming pay-per-view videos.

 

Apart from one instance, I've always regretted coughing up for the pay-per-view videos that they offer. They have always been weirdly low quality (as in very compressed and small file size, which I do not get as even my 5 year old phone can record crisp full HD. Yet these guys seem to be recording on late '80's tape cameras or something). The most I've paid for a video like that was 7 dollars, which I find the only reasonable amount for that (10-minute fuck video where you barely see anything).

 

I hate having to pay for "teasers", especially if the monthly price is already the same as a Netflix subscription. Imagine subscribing to Netflix but only able to see the trailers as part of your subscription! And then have to pay individually for the full shows you actually want to see! But hey, it must be working as I've seen this practice explode in the last year and a half.

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I've never subscribed to Only Fans, just Just For Fans. I don't think I'd subscribe to anyone unless I knew he was posting full length clips. Once you subscribe you have access to all of the previous videos posted, so it's usually worth it to subscribe to someone for a month to see how good his feed has been over time. If it's good enough, I'll let the autorenew happen. Otherwise I cancel before the initial period is over.

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It’s 2020 and I’m not sure why people spend money on porn these days. I’ve only come across a couple of performers who always post quality “full-length” videos and do so consistently, but you can just find most of their stuff for free if you know how to look.

 

1. Some people like financially supporting the people who produce porn. If everyone watched everything for free there would quickly be a dearth of new content.

 

2. Even if you only want to watch porn for free, it's not always easy to find every scene you want to view, to view the full length of the scene you want to see, to view the scene in high resolution or to have the scene download at a reasonable speed for viewing offline.

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I wish more OF performers would set up their pages like Griffin Barrows, where you get a decent sense of his content before subscribing - not just trusting that whatever's there will be appealing. That's not to say I would hesitate over the fact that Tyler's page is less revealing - he is a known quantity and I have no doubt that the content would be worthwhile - but for the more "average", less known performer, knowing what to expect is more likely to draw me in.

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Just venting...

 

It sure is annoying spending $12 for a months subscription and then finding out that the videos are all around 2 minutes long and are simply teasers for 10-minute videos at $25 a pop, or joining a site just before the “performer” says he is going to take a break.

 

That being said, some performers like Dato Foland put a lot of work into their content and provide good value.

 

Any recommended OFs performers?

 

I'd recommend Rhyheim Shabazz. ...have been knowing about him for a while from https://www.xvideo.com and from https://Ilikepinga.com as well as from his Twitter page; the other day I subscribed to his OF's page and truly liked what's there.

 

One of the guys he's met is Elijah Zayne; on Rhyheim's Twitter page is a brief encounter of the two. I found it so hot that I took out a subscription to Elijah's OF's as well. ...liked the few of his short vids that I viewed.

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I'd recommend Rhyheim Shabazz. ...have been knowing about him for a while from https://www.xvideo.com and from https://Ilikepinga.com as well as from his Twitter page; the other day I subscribed to his OF's page and truly liked what's there.

 

One of the guys he's met is Elijah Zayne; on Rhyheim's Twitter page is a brief encounter of the two. I found it so hot that I took out a subscription to Elijah's OF's as well. ...liked the few of his short vids that I viewed.

 

Rhyheim (a) posts full length clips, (b) generally has good camera work and lighting, and © both he and his scene partners seem into one another. His is definitely at the top level of self-posted content assuming, of course, you find his look and proclivities exciting. Like all men, I realize that different people have different types but I think Rhyheim is very hot.

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Rhyheim (a) posts full length clips, (b) generally has good camera work and lighting, and © both he and his scene partners seem into one another. His is definitely at the top level of self-posted content assuming, of course, you find his look at proclivities exciting. Like all men, I realize that different people have different types but I think Rhyheim is very hot.

 

I definitely consider Rhyheim the gold standard for Onlyfans/Justforfans. I especially like that he has a designated camera person who's just there to film and said camera person is very good at knowing where to point the camera to best catch the action.

 

I'd also recommend Gabriel Cross. His set up is not as elaborate as Rhyheim's as he only very occasionally has someone else filming for him, but he is really good knowing when to pass the camera around to him and his scene partners to show the best angles and has couple of stationary cameras usually set up. He also manages to get some great quality and variety of guys.

https://onlyfans.com/gabrielcross

 

 

Can you describe the parts of Dato's content distribution that differs from the people you're complaining about?

 

Is the content he posts longer, more exciting, etc.? Do you ever feel like the 10-minute videos are ever worth $25? If subscription price is ~$10/month, what would you consider a reasonable price for a "full" video - if at all?

 

Just curious and looking to engage anyone who's willing to share their opinion of the topic.

 

@NikoLeto I can't speak to Dato's content specifically but more to the two guys I referenced above, but if they give me well shot, well performed, 20 minute+ content at $9.99 a month there is not a lot of incentive to pay much above that price point. I can probably afford to subscribe to 3, maybe 4 guys at a time so I like to have the best bang for my buck. If they piqued my interest enough I could see myself doing up to $14.99/month for one or two guys but not much more than that.

 

That's not to say you couldn't get more than that but you would have to have more niche or fetish content few or no other guys are really doing. There are more than few guys who charge northward of $19.99/month for just sparse posts of them flexing in a mirror and some jack off videos. Same thing for charges for individual videos. It would have to be something really unique and appealing to me in order to shell that out for one video.

 

Now this is just reflects my personal tastes, but the more condensed version of my point is how much you can get is tied to what you have to offer as compared to how much people with similar content are charging for it.

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Now this is just reflects my personal tastes, but the more condensed version of my point is how much you can get is tied to what you have to offer as compared to how much people with similar content are charging for it.

 

I'm actually noticing that there isn't much in BDSM or pup play, which is the niche I was looking to fill (fits my interests).

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The best OnlyFans I've subscribed to are the ones that don't have any pay-per-view at all but put their full content on their main timeline. Fulltimepapi and Matthew Camp do this and. More often than not I've found that the ones that have only teasers on their main timeline (which they already charge for) have very underwhelming pay-per-view videos.

 

Apart from one instance, I've always regretted coughing up for the pay-per-view videos that they offer. They have always been weirdly low quality (as in very compressed and small file size, which I do not get as even my 5 year old phone can record crisp full HD. Yet these guys seem to be recording on late '80's tape cameras or something). The most I've paid for a video like that was 7 dollars, which I find the only reasonable amount for that (10-minute fuck video where you barely see anything).

 

I hate having to pay for "teasers", especially if the monthly price is already the same as a Netflix subscription. Imagine subscribing to Netflix but only able to see the trailers as part of your subscription! And then have to pay individually for the full shows you actually want to see! But hey, it must be working as I've seen this practice explode in the last year and a half.

 

Disney plus is about to start this shit with Mulan. Why would I pay $30 and my subscription to watch that movie. I hate being nickel and dimed. Porn is worse and that’s why I won’t pay for that shit. Besides there is soooo much porn available for free. If you want to see the JFF or stuff like that it’s already it’s been pirated.

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I'd recommend Rhyheim Shabazz. ...have been knowing about him for a while from https://www.xvideo.com and from https://Ilikepinga.com as well as from his Twitter page; the other day I subscribed to his OF's page and truly liked what's there.

 

One of the guys he's met is Elijah Zayne; on Rhyheim's Twitter page is a brief encounter of the two. I found it so hot that I took out a subscription to Elijah's OF's as well. ...liked the few of his short vids that I viewed.

 

Rhyheim has also recently had a few vids with Cade Maddox and another participant. I have found them totally hot. Also his vids with Ruslan Angelo are well worth the subscription.

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Disney plus is about to start this shit with Mulan. Why would I pay $30 and my subscription to watch that movie. I hate being nickel and dimed. Porn is worse and that’s why I won’t pay for that shit. Besides there is soooo much porn available for free. If you want to see the JFF or stuff like that it’s already it’s been pirated.

I don't mind paying a performer who provides quality, good-value content.

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Well, a guy who I've lusted over for two years now has started an Onlyfans. The only difference with his Instagram content is that now he wears a thong in his twerk videos instead of short shorts. That's it. No dick, no naked ass, at all. And his asking price is 15 dollars a month. I'm gonna pass. (The reason I have the information on his content is because he posted teasers on twitter and also I point blank asked him about nudity. Props to him for answering honestly and saying there is no nudity on his page). He already has a couple of subscribers, though, so good for him, I guess. Hahaha, I sound a bit jaded. Ahum.

 

Honestly, I feel like the best money I recently spent on something like Onlyfans (it was on 4myFans) was 5 bucks to buy a bunch of videos of a webcam model I've been lusting over getting his brains fucked out. Each video was between 10 to 20 minutes long in crisp full high definition. Certainly one of the best things I've spent 5 bucks on.

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Well, a guy who I've lusted over for two years now has started an Onlyfans. The only difference with his Instagram content is that now he wears a thong in his twerk videos instead of short shorts. That's it. No dick, no naked ass, at all. And his asking price is 15 dollars a month. I'm gonna pass. (The reason I have the information on his content is because he posted teasers on twitter and also I point blank asked him about nudity. Props to him for answering honestly and saying there is no nudity on his page). He already has a couple of subscribers, though, so good for him, I guess. Hahaha, I sound a bit jaded. Ahum.

 

Honestly, I feel like the best money I recently spent on something like Onlyfans (it was on 4myFans) was 5 bucks to buy a bunch of videos of a webcam model I've been lusting over getting his brains fucked out. Each video was between 10 to 20 minutes long in crisp full high definition. Certainly one of the best things I've spent 5 bucks on.

 

I am not sure who this is but there are not many men (if any) that I would pay that for and not see any nudity. I mean even for the best of the stars I can go on torrents and get scenes they have done for free. Of course, for sites such as Lucas, Falcon, Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody, and the like I also have to get a company like Private Internet Access to protect my identity. Those are professionally filmed scenes but occasionally you can also get the OnlyFan/Just4Fans scenes that might be posted. And you can download those scenes forever if you want them. So I personally would have to think long and hard about subscribing to OF/J4Fans.

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Appreciate the testimonial, my friend. We do absolutely enable all our content for subscribers. You see everything. We post every day, have 500 full length videos there with over 1000 photos and are in the top 3% creators on OF and JFF both. We have a lot of friends in the "business", however, who have scoffed at us for losing money by not posting PPV content. I just had a long conversation today, in fact, with somebody in the top 0.5% of creators. He recommends we drop our subscription price to entice more subscribers with teasing content and load up on the PPV. He says that's how he came to have nearly 3,000 followers making $350 a day. It's hard to turn down those kinds of numbers. He even stopped escorting thanks to the strategy.

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