Rude Masseur

[BeefyDude]

So I saw an ad. Looked OK. But as always I prefer to talk to someone to see if there is any connection, ask questions etc

 

Based on this, I wasn't feeling a great match. I always ask where they are staying (I typically avoid downtown). He gave me the address. I have been there before. Its a fucking DUMP.

 

I tried to tell him it wasn't the ideal place and not very nice. He said "but it has secured parking". For the rate he is charging he can do a lot better IMHO

 

I sent him the google map link and asked where the secured parking is here (its right off the street). Here is the link of the google maps:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7985201,-84.3912602,3a,60y,43.94h,90.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD7teW0HItf1AVIqSzMZI2w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

He replied very rudely stating I was too high maintenance for him. Safe to say I wont be booking with him. He then proceeded to keep blowing up my phone. So I had to block him.

 

I wont give the name of the masseur as that is irrelevant. Not a good way to generate customers IMHO

[+ EVdude]

I wont give the name of the masseur as that is irrelevant

Actually it’s not irrelevant... we’re here to both recommend and help avoid bad actors in the community. It’s one thing that you two didn’t agree to a session, but wholly unacceptable that he kept coming back at you after the fact. No doubt your fellow massage lovers in Atlanta would like knowing who this or any other douche bag is.

[LookingAround]

Once you knew it was a dump why did you keep on? So what where the parking is located would that have changed your mind? I doubt it so why keep pestering him. I understand his getting annoyed but of course he shouldn’t have blown up your phone after that. You guys were two peas in a pod in a way haha.

[The Dude]

A masseur goes off on you and you don't think his name is relevant? Then why even post to begin with??

[Massageislife]

I'm glad you didn't post the masseur's name. Based on what you've written, you should have ended the communication when you found out that you that he was conducting business where you wouldn't be comfortable.

[jcarper]

Place doesn't seem that bad... I'd park my car there. There's like an art college nearby and apartments across the street housing students; it seems pretty safe. Maybe he's a poor student at the nearby college or something so it's convenient to use the cheap inn since it's right across the street. Knowing he's in a dump though, I would have just asked "are you using a bed or table?" If this dude is charging $200+ and using a cheap inn and their cheap bed, you're probably right to avoid. Was he any good-lookin'? Escortish-type hehehe? Young art-studentish type? Don't be afraid to think with the little head sometimes! Not too much but just a little!

[Westcoaster]

I don’t understand why you posted this.

Sam

[starman05]

what's this guy charging that he should be able to live in a nicer part of town? I would have no idea how many massages he was doing a month or what his other expenses and obligations that has him living where he does. like others, I"m not sure of the point of this post. It sounds like this was never going to be a match.

[+ E.T.Bass]

I don't see any requirement to unload on this guy by spreading his name, since you didn't hire him, so kudos to you on that.

 

The critique of the hotel was meant to be helpful, but from the response, one might see how communication by text easily goes off the rails. Many people aren't looking for advice anyway.

 

I'd shy away from investing time with a provider if the communication has any red flags that the experience won't be congenial. But that is extremely rare.

[BeefyDude]

Here is another Rude one. This time i'm calling him out

 

https://rentmasseur.com/BodyworkbyBilly

 

His and pics looked great. We talked on the phone, everything seemed good.

 

Minor red flag: He said he was in town for pride and wasn't really focusing on massages - so why bother putting an ad?

 

Anyways.. i texted him later asking if his rate of $150 was firm or any "wiggle room". If his ad is as he said then that is too high for what he is offering I thought to myself.

 

Also NO harm in asking

 

His response: "

I hate being asked for discounts and am now turned off

 

Have a good weekend"

 

I replied stating no harm asking. His reply: "Not for my hands... no"

 

Like he is some massage guru and god.

[hornytwells]

Here is another Rude one. This time i'm calling him out

 

https://rentmasseur.com/BodyworkbyBilly

 

His and pics looked great. We talked on the phone, everything seemed good.

 

Minor red flag: He said he was in town for pride and wasn't really focusing on massages - so why bother putting an ad?

 

Anyways.. i texted him later asking if his rate of $150 was firm or any "wiggle room". If his ad is as he said then that is too high for what he is offering I thought to myself.

 

Also NO harm in asking

 

His response: "

I hate being asked for discounts and am now turned off

 

Have a good weekend"

 

I replied stating no harm asking. His reply: "Not for my hands... no"

 

Like he is some massage guru and god.

Am sorry, but based on this post I don't feel the masseur is the problem. It is rather insulting to ask for a discount when the rate is clearly stated.

[Massageislife]

Am sorry, but based on this post I don't feel the masseur is the problem. It is rather insulting to ask for a discount when the rate is clearly stated.

Yeah, I'm starting to think that this thread should be renamed "Rude (potential) Client."

[BeefyDude]

you are entitled to your opinion just like i'm entitled to mine

 

I'm the one paying for this service. I had and don't have any problem asking if a rate is negotiable. He is essentially running a business. Its not uncommon in the business world to negotiate. It has worked for me many times. $150 is high IMHO for this particular masseur. His fee includes certain amenities which are obviously not present here (i.e. table clean linens etc). So again I have no problem asking for a reduced rate. The worst they can say is No. I then have to make the choice to accept or not. So when you are on eBay or at a yard sale for example do you accept those prices or tried to negotiate. It works here too folks.

 

To be "turned off" by the request is IMHO inappropriate. He could have simply said no my prices are set. No need for the extra comments IMHO. Damm if he gets that offended so easily wow!!!

 

Also the purpose of this site is to help others (either for good referrals or to weed out bad ones)

 

What didn't share is the whole conversation where I did apologize to him but he still chose to voice his opinions (which he is entitled to as well).

 

Never once did i get mad or demand. I simply asked. Agian I have ZERO problems asking.

 

I don't appreciate being labeled for voicing my opinions

 

I have had MANY massages. I think these are the only 2 or 3 that I have mentioned. So the ratio is extremely low - too low to label me IMHO.

 

But at the end of the day y'all are entitled to your opinions.

[+ E.T.Bass]

People seem out for blood these days, wanting to punish a provider for a single experience. Is it vindictiveness?

 

More and more I tailor criticisms or avoid being critical at all unless asked.

 

For example I communicated with a hot provider recently discussed on the forum. For me his texts turned out to be terribly unreliable.

 

Rather than coming back to his thread to complain, I treated myself to a known quantity and so happy that I did. I got what I needed and more.

 

I chose not to fvck over the hot dude with low communication skills. Perhaps he was out of sorts that morning. Perhaps he was juggling multiple potential offers. I didn't take it personal, just responded I had misunderstood, that I thought he had confirmed. So at least we left the chance of meeting open, though I doubt I will initiate.

 

 

I expect that karma will take care of guys that don't practice decent, respectful communication and we will hire those that do.

[massagefan320]

The issue is most of these masseurs don't have any support staff working for them to book their appointments ,etc., they have to do everything themselves. They can't spend hours a day negotiating with strangers via text message (some of which don't end up showing up without any recourse) that want to save money off their fee, they literally wouldn't have the time to make any money. The other businesses you negotiate with either have other employees, or are used to negotiation. You have to accept that some people find it insulting that you are asking for a discount, that is the harm being done. When they tell you their prices are firm, I would just say "ok, thanks," and try and find someone else instead of continuing the dialogue, like I do when I don't like someone's prices (when it is not listed on a site). I agree people should not spam message your phone.

[BeefyDude]

hours a day.. it was a 2 second conversation. A simply no my rates are firm would have sufficed and I would have been OK - i would have accepted and moved on.

 

We talked first and per his request (and documented on his page) I sent a pic. We seemed to have a good rapport which is another reason I didn't feel badly about asking.

 

Some people might find it insulting, but many won't be bothered (from my experience). Again I did apologize to him. But no harm asking. I was very polite. I didn't harass Barage or say bad things to him nor did I pressure. When he said what he said I did just that i moved on. SIMPLE and DONE !!!

 

I respect if he doesn't want to negotiate. But there is NO harm asking. But he didn't (IMHO) need to tell me he was turned off buy it. I was nice to him he could have shown the same courtesy.

 

I simply asked.. what is so HORRIBLY wrong about that. Why are y'all out to make me the bad guy

 

I'm simply expressing my opinions and experiences

 

Can we please move on to other topics. Debating this back and forth and trashing me isn't going to solve this. If there was a way I could delete this thread I would. Its not worth the comments that are getting directed at me (both here and privately).

[massagefan320]

How many people do you think message a masseur in a day? Not just you.

 

Read the first review from on this masseur's site just for context in what I am thinking about:

 

https://rentmasseur.com/MensMassager#rmotd

[ArmyHands]

Yeah, I'm starting to think that this thread should be renamed "Rude (potential) Client."

 

Yes I get this allot my self Being doing massages since 2001..... My Prices have been the same for the the past 8 yrs etc..

I Still I keep getting those Discounts texts / emails or saying I only have$20 .... or Asking for More Pics (BODY / PVT PARTS) Really ????

[Massageislife]

I don't have any problem with your disliking the texting experience you had with this masseur (For what it's worth, I had an extremely positive experience, at every stage of the process, with Billy when he visited NYC). What I dislike is your use of this site to trash a masseur you never even scheduled a session with. If a masseur lacks people skills on the initial texting outreach, we can figure that out ourselves when we make outreach; we don't need your help with that.

[Terpmaniac]

Here is another Rude one. This time i'm calling him out

 

https://rentmasseur.com/BodyworkbyBilly

 

His and pics looked great. We talked on the phone, everything seemed good.

 

Minor red flag: He said he was in town for pride and wasn't really focusing on massages - so why bother putting an ad?

 

Anyways.. i texted him later asking if his rate of $150 was firm or any "wiggle room". If his ad is as he said then that is too high for what he is offering I thought to myself.

 

Also NO harm in asking

 

His response: "

I hate being asked for discounts and am now turned off

 

Have a good weekend"

 

I replied stating no harm asking. His reply: "Not for my hands... no"

 

Like he is some massage guru and god.

I don't have a problem with what you asked but I think his "I'm really here for Pride" to me that was a red flag that the massage offer was NOT his main priority. Terp

[+ ButchAtl]

I fail to see how @BeffyDude was in anyway "rude." As he said, "it doesn't hurt to ask." I guess I disagree with the seemingly majority opinion here,

I don't think asking justifies a provider to get his panties in a wad.

[Massageislife]

I fail to see how @BeffyDude was in anyway "rude." As he said, "it doesn't hurt to ask." I guess I disagree with the seemingly majority opinion here,

I don't think asking justifies a provider to get his panties in a wad.

I don't think it is necessarily "rude" to ask for a discount either (although I would never do it), but the original post here was about the alleged rudeness of the masseur. The masseur had just as much right to "get his panties in a wad" (I imagine that he might offer a different version of the exchange) as the original poster did to not like the masseur's reaction. The issue here is that this post is out of line on its face. The second attack, in particular, is defamatory because it names the masseur. I hope as a community we're careful the way we speak about masseurs. We're lucky that so many wonderful guys are willing to provide this service, particularly given its marginal legal and reputational status. Warnings about masseurs who make take advantage of us one way or another are welcome here. It's one of the main functions, for most of us, I think, of this site. Let me just say again: BeefyDude DID NOT EVEN GET TO THE POINT OF MAKING AN APPOINTMENT WITH THESE PROVIDERS. They don't deserve to be trashed, particularly by name.

[Monarchy79]

The person who actually seems rude in this scenario isn’t the masseur.... ?

[Smurof]

you are entitled to your opinion just like i'm entitled to mine

 

I'm the one paying for this service. I had and don't have any problem asking if a rate is negotiable. He is essentially running a business. Its not uncommon in the business world to negotiate. It has worked for me many times. $150 is high IMHO for this particular masseur. His fee includes certain amenities which are obviously not present here (i.e. table clean linens etc). So again I have no problem asking for a reduced rate. The worst they can say is No. I then have to make the choice to accept or not. So when you are on eBay or at a yard sale for example do you accept those prices or tried to negotiate. It works here too folks.

 

To be "turned off" by the request is IMHO inappropriate. He could have simply said no my prices are set. No need for the extra comments IMHO. Damm if he gets that offended so easily wow!!!

 

Also the purpose of this site is to help others (either for good referrals or to weed out bad ones)

 

What didn't share is the whole conversation where I did apologize to him but he still chose to voice his opinions (which he is entitled to as well).

 

Never once did i get mad or demand. I simply asked. Agian I have ZERO problems asking.

 

I don't appreciate being labeled for voicing my opinions

 

I have had MANY massages. I think these are the only 2 or 3 that I have mentioned. So the ratio is extremely low - too low to label me IMHO.

 

But at the end of the day y'all are entitled to your opinions.

Were his rates seen by you lower in a different location, or were they lower if you had seen him prior, donating less than what was listed? Unless the answer was yes to either of these, it was best not to negotiate. P.S. defending yourself from an initial post always gets additional thumbs down. Rebuttals aren't liked around here, just butts.

[+ EVdude]

Rebuttals aren't liked around here, just butts.

Butt why do you say that? Sorry, too irresistible statement. And yes, a nice butt is liked too.