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[Mocha]

Well once again, I find myself asking the same question...at what point.

 

I’m just kinda getting fed up. It seems like I get a quick break from the bullshit for a couple of weeks, met some financial goals I needed, and then it’s back to the drawing board.

 

I’m just getting tired of feeling like I have to chase clients down, send up follow up messages all the time, and not getting enough bookings in. They hit me up for an appointment, then don’t have the fucking decency to respond back, leave me hanging in the loop (not racial puns intended)....basically just wasting hours and days with meaningless conversations with these people.

 

I spent all summer discussing arranging plans with one of my semi-regulars I’ve known for years, only for him to lay out some (plausible, yet late) excuse about having financial/family obligations. That’s understandable, but why waste my time all this time...and he’s not even available, for the next few months.

 

This is exactly why I had started to implement deposit at the door strategies. I think I’m just going to have to get to a point where people are just going to have to pay a deposit before they can even speak or book with me.

 

I just get tired of wasting so much time arranging sessions and thinking I may have an appointment, with nothing to show by the end of the day. And now I’m already at day 7 with no clients in a week...I THOUGHT I had atleast 1 or 2, all cancels (called into work/wife not going to her meetings, etc.) And the ones who reached out when I was out of town and followed up when I came back, no where to be found. Won’t answer messages or anything.

 

It’s exactly why I’ve been in steady travel mode for the past 12 months. It’s not worth being stuck being miserable in one city, when I know I can go somewhere else and not have to deal with this shit. So when people want to act stupid, like they did in Detroit and Milwaukee last month, I can just pack my shit up and get the fuck out. Go somewhere else and do better for myself.

Edited September 26, 2019 by Mocha

[+ augustus]

@Mocha Maybe having a preset text or email that summarizes (not too explicit) what you offer can help. If you have good reviews then direct them to that. End the back and forth communications and just redirect them back to the preset text or email and reviews. Tell them it's a legal issue and protection for both yourself and the client. I really don't get why people do this. Nothing better to do? It's just moronic and inconsiderate.

[ReidReid]

Edit: I changed it back. Might as well be transparent about it.

 

For me: the main thing that’s making escort more tedious nowadays, is that the vast potential of people who express interest, are simply not available. That’s one reason why I keep my adam4adam profile up. Sometimes I find it’s better at getting 2 people in the same room a bit easier, because both parties are online and available (usually but not always)

 

I find myself getting texts and emails around the clock from people in different cities I am in or plan to visit, and by the time we get 3 messages in, I find out they aren’t available. Over the last 2 weeks, my phone has been filled with, “sorry I’m not able to meet” or “I’m not able to meet this time”, or “I’m only available 1 day this week between these 2 hours of time window”, and it’s not the days I’m in town. Some of it is coming from regulars, others are from new clients.

 

I don’t know if it’s the season or what, but it’s getting out of hand. I just don’t understand why people reach out to us, when they don’t have any time to plan anything. Also, I will text someone to confirm an appointment or try to get something set up, they either don’t respond back, or wait until the next day...and by that time I’m waiting and wondering, only to hear they can’t make it.

 

Or, they’ll not respond to the follow up in the timeframe that I need...and then expect me to be available despite not returning my message asking them to confirm. I had a guy in another city I planned to visit, do that the other day. I asked him 2 times to let me know what times he can meet tomorrow, because he ASKED ME if I could see him tomorrow. I didn’t get any response until the next morning. By that point, I made other plans.

 

And then...seems like every time I try to arrange a session, everybody always has to be on a time constraint. Like they can’t ever meet during any other time of day. The media portrays escorting as a night time activity...but the fact is, 60% of my clients want to meet during the day, and it’s often too early in the day for me to meet. The prime time hours between 7 and 11 pm are more and more dead nowadays.

 

People are wanting afternoon sessions, and being that I travel and stay in hotels, meeting between 11 and 2 pm is difficult as that’s the time I go to the gym while the maids clean, or may be checking out/into a hotel during those crucial hours. I’m also traveling during the day and may not arrive into a city until the late afternoon/evening and 9 times out 10 they say it’s too late for them to meet.

 

Sometimes it doesn’t matter when I arrive. If I arrive in town at 8 pm, it’s too late for them. If I arrive at 4 pm, it’s too late for them. If I arrive at 2 pm, it’s still too late for them. It’s never a good time, because they never want to go out their way to meet me when I’m capable of doing so, they only want to meet when it’s convenient for them. They won’t miss something important for me, but then they get mad when I cant forgo something to meet them.

 

I then think if I had a normal 9-5 job, I would likely miss a large majority of clients. Because like I said, evenings seem to be nothing going on anymore, while daytime seems to be when all the requests come in. All in all, my patience is wearing thin, and I’m getting close to just suspending any further escort travels, and only working locally by the end of the year.

 

I know many of these type of clients are creeping around a spouse and kids, and that’s the other thing that puts the pressure on me...because they’re married/partnered, they can only play on a limited basis. But then it requires me to have superhuman powers to make shit happen. And after awhile, I get tired of having to drop everything in order to accommodate their creepy lifestyle. Regardless, I certainly need a resolution.

 

 

I have a client who does the same kind of bullshit. He constantly texts me "I'm horny" but then doesn't offer to coordinate a time that day to meet up. I do not host often and he knows that, yet will just text me as if I'm some grindr profile. I have been direct and told him to reach me back when he can coordinate but it just keeps happening and happening. We had a 3some and the other escort felt the same sentiment. Good to know it is not just me. I am patient but I too have a life and do my best to coordinate. Running around NYC takes its toll on you, not to mention I bike around usually.

[Mocha]

@Mocha Maybe having a preset text or email that summarizes (not too explicit) what you offer can help. If you have good reviews then direct them to that. End the back and forth communications and just redirect them back to the preset text or email and reviews. Tell them it's a legal issue and protection for both yourself and the client. I really don't get why people do this. Nothing better to do? It's just moronic and inconsiderate.

 

Good point...but I’m on the same page and have already implemented that.

 

The last person was saying he was “so nervous”. Okay, that’s fine but being nervous isn’t an excuse to not follow directions, not provide any way to reach them, and drag out my confirmation process out for two hours.

 

I actually had met a client who was doing the same last weekend: he was staying at an airport Mariott...but two hours went by and I still didn’t have the necessary info to come. And I’m just waiting at a bar I didn’t want to really be at, having more and more drinks. At one point I was almost there and called him. No response.

 

Eventually we met and everything turned out well (actually turned into an overnight) but while we were together I guess he noticed my text saying that I was going to report his info to my client warning page for sending me on a fake outcall. He wasn’t offended, but we did have a little talk about how these things do happen.

[Mocha]

I have a client who does the same kind of bullshit. He constantly texts me "I'm horny" but then doesn't offer to coordinate a time that day to meet up. I do not host often and he knows that, yet will just text me as if I'm some grindr profile. I have been direct and told him to reach me back when he can coordinate but it just keeps happening and happening. We had a 3some and the other escort felt the same sentiment. Good to know it is not just me. I am patient but I too have a life and do my best to coordinate. Running around NYC takes its toll on you, not to mention I bike around usually.

 

I’m in the same position when I’m not on tour. I can’t host at the drop of a hat. The ones I see usually schedule earlier in the day or the next day. All the ones who can’t seem to coordinate a time and act like it’s grindr, are usually on Grindr and that’s why they’re mentality is so fucked up. Most of those don’t end up becoming regulars because after the 1st or 2nd time, I end up telling them where to go ?? .

 

At the same time I wonder if I were to get back to having a steady incall location in the city, if things would be easier. I understand in this business, sometimes you just have to be available, close by and ready. My current situation is not very conducive to that. But there’s other cities where I’ve been centrally located, and it doesn’t make any difference. And in the area I’m in now, I’ve already wasted 2 out of 3 nights in hotels in the past week, expecting someone to show up..and got nothing. Just wasted my damn money. Fortunately I had other friends show up. But thats why I don’t host clients if I need to get a hotel without a deposit.

[RealAvalon]

I’ve been seeing a regular on a weekly basis for the past 3 years .

Sex gets better with repeat encounters for me. Knowledge is 'power' especially in the sack

Edited September 27, 2019 by RealAvalon

[cany10011]

Sex gets better with each encounter for me. Knowledge is 'power' especially in the sack

 

For some, it‘s also nice to have the novelty of “fresh” meat. So i guess it works both ways. But my regular keeps it fresh and so do I. Plus, it’s comfortable and fun still.

[marylander1940]

For some, it‘s also nice to have the novelty of “fresh” meat. So i guess it works both ways. But my regular keeps it fresh and so do I. Plus, it’s comfortable and fun still.

 

And some on here can’t stop looking for fresh guys and spend hours on SA, Instagram, model mayhem, etc. looking for amateurs who escorts.

[Mocha]

Sex gets better with repeat encounters for me. Knowledge is 'power' especially in the sack

 

It really does...

 

There’s some clients I meet who...no matter how un-horny I am that day, are able to get me up and keep me up. With new clients, sometimes you’re trying to “perform”, but after that...it becomes 2nd nature. Then again...I had 2 hot clients back to back couple weeks ago. Not that a client needs to be hot to get some ?, but it reminds me why I don’t need to be on apps fucking for free, when there’s hot clients willing to pay for a good time ??

[cany10011]

And some on here can’t stop looking for fresh guys and spend hours on SA, Instagram, model mayhem, etc. looking for amateurs who escorts.

I think part of it is thrill of the chase.... finding someone new and untried.

[marylander1940]

I think part of it is thrill of the chase.... finding someone new and untried.

 

Too bad Craigslist is no longer around

 

I wouldn’t use the word “chase” for something we do seated at home. As Americans don’t we do that too much already?

[MikeBiDude]

Too bad Craigslist is no longer around

 

I wouldn’t use the word “chase” for something we do seated at home. As Americans don’t we do that too much already?

“Hunt” ??

[marylander1940]

“Hunt” ??

 

More like chilling in front of the computer