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[myophile]

But since it is so variable, that's why (pre)-knowledge is so helpful. If I know a guy charged Joe Who Wants To Be Blown $300, and he states a charge of $375 for me, I might not want to hire him-or I may ask him about the other guys' $300 fee. If he made a good case, I might even go for the $375-but probably not.

 

 

Gman

 

But you still won’t know WHY the other client got quoted a higher rate—unless he tells you outright that yes, he weighs 400 lbs and routinely presents potential hires with page after page of single-spaced detailed scenarios and instructions. So yes, the rate is variable, but unless you know why—and you can’t—I’m not sure what good that knowledge does you. I prefer to just ask the provider.

[+ Gar1eth]

why is asking here on the forum about a provider's rates so common??.....isn't it best to go to the source, politely introduce yourself and mention a plan, and inquire with him about rates?.........forum members here "promising" the rates of a provider is a tricky proposition and we all know rates can vary.......

I agree. The rate a provider quotes another guy is not necessarily the rate he’ll quote you.

That's actually a reason to know on here. Any prior (truthful) information is good information to know.

 

Gman

Not necessarily. A provider can charge whatever he likes—it’s not like the rate is set by The Hustler Board of Trade, or something. And the rate he quotes you can be affected by lots of things, including how you present yourself to the provider, what you’re into, etc.—factors that are not necessarily included in these posted discussions. So I tend not to pay much attention to forum reports about rates, but go directly to the provider.

But since it is so variable, that's why (pre)-knowledge is so helpful. If I know a guy charged Joe Who Wants To Be Blown $300, and he states a charge of $375 for me, I might not want to hire him-or I may ask him about the other guys' $300 fee. If he made a good case, I might even go for the $375-but probably not.

 

 

Gman

But you still won’t know WHY the other client got quoted a higher rate—unless he tells you outright that yes, he weighs 400 lbs and routinely presents potential hires with page after page of single-spaced detailed scenarios and instructions. So yes, the rate is variable, but unless you know why—and you can’t—I’m not sure what good that knowledge does you. I prefer to just ask the provider.

 

Then we'll probably have to agree to disagree. I wanted as much info as possible in my day. And if not listing fees would have been as common then as they are now, I would have wanted to know beforehand what other clients had been charged if possible. It's the same as wanting to know airline trip fees. And we know how variable they can be.

 

Gman

[Gymowner]

I dont think asking what a rate was for a client is wrong. I think re-acting negatively to a different than quoted rate may be. I know that a few of my regulars dont even have a set fee for me. They allow me to put down what I feel the session allows for. With them its fluid. Certain things may happen and at times they dont happen. All from their side and how they feel that day. They know I'm not a cheapskate so they dont have a "well let me see... we did this today so it will be x." They just trust that I will come thru fairly. I rarely will give out my rate being charged to someone who asks so it doesnt create an issue for the escort with a new client.

 

That being said it takes quite awhile to build that sort of relationship. It doesnt happen overnight or from a few sessions. These escorts know I'm a gentleman with them and an easy session. And one they actually look forward to going thru with.

 

As I've said over and over this is an expensive sport. So much is said for being decent, honest, clean cut and respectful to the human being you are seeing. They are escorts yes. Humans with feelings first and foremost. If I am seeing someone for the first time their rate is their rate. If I'm not willing to pay that for whatever the reason may be, I go onto the next escort.

[PDR]

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[PDR]

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[+ m_writer]

I have some bad news regarding Rory.

 

I noticed his profile was down so I texted him. It turns out he's taking a long break because someone leaked his photos, ad, and videos to his father's workplace and outed him, so now he's trying to distance himself from it and he's not sure if when or if he'll ever get back to RM.

 

I liked Rory and he was a total sweetheart and a nice, personable, and friendly guy, so it saddens me that someone revealed his stuff to his family and inner circle like that. Still, I texted him some words of encouragement and if anyone has his personal phone, wish him well and a Merry Christmas.

 

And frankly, this is a question for anyone who can answer: if someone outs you like that, can't you sue them? Or it's not possible because it's revealing Rory made a profile for gay escorts, so it would incriminate him?

[mike carey]

Or it's not possible because it's revealing Rory made a profile for gay escorts, so it would incriminate him?

It might in the US but if the action he took against the leaker was in the UK it wouldn't incriminate him. Although form what you wrote, it's not clear he even knows who that is.

[Gymowner]

how can it be against the law to "out" someone for something they are doing? improper... depends on the situation. immoral...maybe. unlawful? i cant see how.

 

how he reacts to being "outed" can have far worse repercussions and implications than actually being outed. if one cuts himself is only when they can taste ones blood. i knew a very very well known porn star and escort from about 15-20 years ago. i knew him prior to his porn career. this guy use to stop by and train at my gyms. anyways.... he called me one day and wanted to know if i wanted to go to lunch. i said sure. well he was on his was from him podunk town to fly to L.A. for a "photo shoot". he was nervous since he had never been on a plane before! well i cautioned him that his photo shoot could be a bait and switch situation from legit to bawdy.he started out stripping in chicago, which is how he got the connection. i told him its just how L.A. can roll. he wasnt sure he understood. very naive at that point in his life with a baby daughter and fiance/wife back home.

 

didnt hear from him for almost a year, then one day i get a call. it was him. he asked if i had an apartment for rent at one of my buildings. he said he had to move quickly. i asked why. he said "well remember what you said about being careful in L.A?". i replied yes. he said one thing led to another and before he knew it he was being wined and dined to do erotic shoots then offered porn...gay porn. he got overwhelmed with stars in his eyes and signed an exclusive contract with one of the top porn companies. did a few movies and no one back home knew.... until one day a young gay man in his town saw one of his movies. told his girl friend that was a friend of this guys fiance. outed right then and there. everything blew up.... but mostly because of how HE handled the situation. i believe if he had confidence and stood his ground with a "yes i did gay porn.... i made x for a few days of work with many many more thousands to make moving us out of this podunk town, now how much do you make working at that factory?" he would have been fine. he did have many issues with his family and a very tumultuous next few years but he got thru it. how rory handles this will either delay of inflame the situation. it is 2019 now with far more acceptance than ever before..

 

hmmm.... looking back i sure knew a lot of these famous "icons" from porn and escorting with a ton of absolutely true stories.

Billy Herrington, KC, Colton, Jason Adonis, Scott Klein, Johnny Bravo/Dave Riley and on and on. funny thing is i originally knew them from my line of work and never had first introduction from hiring any of them. 2 actually worked for me.

 

maybe i should write a book! lol

[AceHardware]

how can it be against the law to "out" someone for something they are doing? improper... depends on the situation. immoral...maybe. unlawful? i cant see how.

 

You can't always control the situation. Remember Ty Fox? As I recall, he had a job as a school PE teacher. Someone spotted him on the cover of a tape in an adult video store, and he lost his job. That could/would still happen today, I think.

 

OTOH, it didn't hurt Carlo Masi as he was teaching at a university and getting his PhD in math. Situations vary.

[Gymowner]

true ace....but the question was whether or not one can be sued for "outing" the person committing the act. unless a case of extortion or bribery, i cant see how. i am not an attorney though.

[former lurker]

true ace....but the question was whether or not one can be sued for "outing" the person committing the act. unless a case of extortion or bribery, i cant see how. i am not an attorney though.

 

As an attorney, I can confirm the gist of your point. There are other potential claims, but not for "outing" -- for misappropriation of name/image/brand, copyright infringement, etc. Those claims depend on theft of owned images and reproducing them or publishing them. It would be a stretch to call this scenario a violation of intellectual property rights. The core bad act -- sending images/info to people close to him -- hints at defamation, but truth is an absolute defense to defamation.

 

Then there is the practical aspect -- any lawsuit would only further publicize what he wants to keep under wraps.

[PDR]

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[big-n-tall]

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Dude!!! You don’t have post the same message 3 separate times in 3 different topic posts. We get the picture he’s back.

[PDR]

Dude!!! You don’t have post the same message 3 separate times in 3 different topic posts. We get the picture he’s back.

sorry i just got excited! ?

[chadLA]

He’s back @eddieboiii

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does he have a RM link?

[PDR]

does he have a RM link?

No... at least not yet atm

[NJmusclelover]

I message him on ig he’s in England now

[Gymowner]

As an attorney, I can confirm the gist of your point. There are other potential claims, but not for "outing" -- for misappropriation of name/image/brand, copyright infringement, etc. Those claims depend on theft of owned images and reproducing them or publishing them. It would be a stretch to call this scenario a violation of intellectual property rights. The core bad act -- sending images/info to people close to him -- hints at defamation, but truth is an absolute defense to defamation.

 

Then there is the practical aspect -- any lawsuit would only further publicize what he wants to keep under wraps.

rereading this message, former lurker thanks for the clarification. common law is really just that...common. if people would do the right thing in life, stay OBJECTIVE, be reasonable and use common sense i dont know if a court system would really be needed. lol im chuckling because people are just the opposite of those criteria!

 

man that is so true. in rory's case he would have to expose an illegal activity he was at work with, go through all the extra scrutiny from the negative publicity and in the end whats the harm... from a legal sense? whats he gonna get? 2 dollars? if he was a major professional athlete with a multi million dollar contract, was exposed for an act that no team wanted to hire him due to the bad publicity and not from his performance as an athlete, imho MAYBE. as you stated so perfectly, the truth is the truth. intent may be where in this case he could win, if lets say a major rival to the team the athlete was playing for wanted the athlete gone so they would have a better chance at winning, an uphill battle but much more plausible. but again, if a plebian... whats the person have that the athlete would be suing? $3? forget about it!

 

sounds more like the person who sent all this to the father had more of a bone to pick with the father than with rory.