Note to Clients: Vulgarity.

[hypothetically]

Clients,

 

Granted I know what I’m selling and you do too..it does not warrant nor give anyone permission to flood an escort’s inbox with photos of you getting flooded. Escorts do not need a visual of your “skillset.” It serves absolutely no purpose and it is in poor taste. I do not care if you can peform fellatio and juggle simultaneously, my concern is nothing more than your ability to communicate what you want, when you want it, and can you afford it.

 

This also applies to how one communicates what they are seeking. And there is a way to communicate what interest someone sexually without being vulgar. Granted, I understand not everyone is able to express oneself eloquently. Nonetheless, there are many ways to say things and “flood my cumhole now???” sans a “hello” speaks volumes about the type of client you are. Speak to an escort as you would any other human being. Maybe some escorts are receptive to this and would like to provide some insight in the comments section?? But speaking personally, a visual resume of what you’ve done to other escorts or what they have done to you interest me none. It will not motivate me to accept you as a client.

 

I’d love insight from clients who do this and why they feel it is acceptable, as well as from escorts who enjoy this. No judgements. The views expressed above were none other than my own. I’m really curious as to how others feel about this.

[+ OliverSaks]

Yeah, this, but also:

 

Do not come into my inbox with a sex act and a dollar amount!!!!

That is illegal (and down right immoral, if you ask me ?)

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I find that some people have had their communication skills ruined by apps like Grindr. As an opening shot, they just send whatever pic they feel sexy about without thinking of consequence or how it comes across.

 

You also have to consider that a lot of guys do this as a power play. It's like a dog pissing on a hydrant.

 

Like you, I prefer guys who can appreciate sex AND can communicate as adults.

[rogerG]

I find that some people have had their communication skills ruined by apps like Grindr.

I've never been on Grindr, but that's what I've also heard.

 

I think you can also look to porn. It may be possible that a lot of guys who hire view a lot of porn. When certain gays get horny, their speech can quickly turn into a bad porn script. They wrongly assume that every escort is like them when they are horny, and they assume escorts are horny all the time and enjoy hearing shit talk. It never made any sense to me. I find that most men who attempt to talk dirty actually fail miserably. Language is an art form and many Americans are suffering. Some argue it's the decline in reading. Others blame the internet and social media.

 

It will not motivate me to accept you as a client.

Wow. Imagine any other service provider making such a statement to a consumer. To me, those chosen words are a bigger turn-off than someone talking shit. Words matter.

[hypothetically]

I've never been on Grindr, but that's what I've also heard.

 

I think you can also look to porn. It may be possible that a lot of guys who hire view a lot of porn. When certain gays get horny, their speech can quickly turn into a bad porn script. They wrongly assume that every escort is like them when they are horny, and they assume escorts are horny all the time and enjoy hearing shit talk. It never made any sense to me. I find that most men who attempt to talk dirty actually fail miserably. Language is an art form and many Americans are suffering. Some argue it's the decline in reading. Others blame the internet and social media.

 

 

Wow. Imagine any other service provider making such a statement to a consumer. To me, those chosen words are a bigger turn-off than someone talking shit. Words matter.

 

Sometimes, correcting someone else’s rotten behavior is way more important to me than taking their money and having to deal with said rotten behavior. I lost a client, tough shit. I’ll sleep better. And you’re very correct, words DO matter. So choose them wisely when contacting an escort. Simple.

 

...and please don’t shortchange me in an attempt to misconstrue a point. The previous sentence read:

 

But speaking personally, a visual resume of what you’ve done to other escorts or what they have done to you interest me none. It will not motivate me to accept you as a client.

Edited August 7, 2019 by hypothetically

[rogerG]

I lost a client, tough shit.

Any service business with this attitude deserves no customers.

[hypothetically]

Any service business with this attitude deserves no customers.

 

***unregulated service business.

 

And yet..

 

[Mocha]

I find that some people have had their communication skills ruined by apps like Grindr. As an opening shot, they just send whatever pic they feel sexy about without thinking of consequence or how it comes across.

 

You also have to consider that a lot of guys do this as a power play. It's like a dog pissing on a hydrant.

 

Like you, I prefer guys who can appreciate sex AND can communicate as adults.

 

But before Grindr was Craigslist...

[Pulgasari1991]

I lost a client, tough shit.

Oh well, I came to associate those characteristics with being cheap as well. I don't find weird at all that you don't feel like you're missing out.

[Pulgasari1991]

But before Grindr was Craigslist...

But Grindr took it steps further, isn't it?

[Mocha]

Any service business with this attitude deserves no customers.

 

***unregulated service business.

 

And yet..

 

 

 

I’m just going to jump in here real quick, but I’m on tour ? so I can’t stay too long.

 

Customers for escorts are not the same as customers for the “service industry”. It takes a backbone and a lot of boundaries to make it here. I was just going to say the other day, since when did the escort industry become so puritanical? People trying to morally judge so much on this forum, but at the end of the day...we are viewed by the “general public” no better whether we never charge a cancellation fee or “blackmail” ? a client, or if we hand out cookies and lemonade while collecting our donations.

 

It’s kind of like police officers (polar opposites, I know). Their “customers” are the general public. But because of the business their in, most interactions involve them being a dick in some shape or fashion, even when they’re pretending to be nice...even though their goal for collecting payment is in the form of a ticket or getting a charge.

 

So at the end of the day, don’t judge someone on how they handle things. The same escorts talking smack, are likely also facilitating someone’s husband/partner to cheat on their spouse (obviously not our fault but still, it’s about the principle) So all the “holier than thou” attitude needs to stop around here.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Mocha

[marylander1940]

But before Grindr was Craigslist...

 

and the bottom feeders from CL discovered rentmen... I know escorts who all of the sudden were flooded by nasty emails/text when CL was no longer available.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

But before Grindr was Craigslist...

 

Yes, but they function in two very separate ways.

 

CL was post, wait and reply. Not realtime.

 

Grindr goes (brilliantly) for the impulse user. That's what makes it so addictive to people.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[manTOman]

@hypothetically I find nothing wrong in what you said. It never even crossed my mind to be sending a visual resume of my abilities, and I do find it in poor taste. I will occasionally get flirty and send a "fuck yeah" as a reply and then I'll be texting an apology if I had crossed the line.

As far as losing customers I do think you're in line and you have every right to chose your clientele. And unlike @Mocha I do think that parts of the industry are very similar to other service industries. Walk into any restaurant and try being verbally abusive to the staff and you will be asked to leave. Try it with a retail story and security will be escorting you outside. Even a lawyer chooses his clientele based on their case. Just because one is in a service industry doesn't mean their service is for everyone, and if the clients are out of line their business will not be welcomed to many of those establishments. Why would escorts be any different?

Apps might have a lot to do with it, and it's not just with being rude but with people communicating with each other in general. Sup? Horny? Cum much? Wanna fuck? These are the new norms for us regular folks, so I can only imagine how much worse it gets for escorts.

[manTOman]

@hypothetically I find nothing wrong in what you said. It never even crossed my mind to be sending a visual resume of my abilities, and I do find it in poor taste. I will occasionally get flirty and send a "fuck yeah" as a reply and then I'll be texting an apology if I had crossed the line.

As far as losing customers I do think you're in line and you have every right to chose your clientele. And unlike @Mocha I do think that parts of the industry are very similar to other service industries. Walk into any restaurant and try being verbally abusive to the staff and you will be asked to leave. Try it with a retail story and security will be escorting you outside. Even a lawyer chooses his clientele based on their case. Just because one is in a service industry doesn't mean their service is for everyone, and if the clients are out of line their business will not be welcomed to many of those establishments. Why would escorts be any different?

Apps might have a lot to do with it, and it's not just with being rude but with people communicating with each other in general. Sup? Horny? Cum much? Wanna fuck? These are the new norms for us regular folks, so I can only imagine how much worse it gets for escorts.

[Aaron_Bauder]

Problem, as always, is the clients who need these lectures aren't on these forums. Clients here mostly have it together.

 

Mostly. There is a bit of crass commodification that too frequently crosses over into dehumanization of providers. Their service is the commodity, but the provider is still a human being and deserving of consideration, care, and respect. Unfortunately, that is often overlooked.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Aaron_Bauder

[Aaron_Bauder]

Problem, as always, is the clients who need these lectures aren't on these forums. Clients here mostly have it together.

 

Mostly. There is a bit of crass commodification that too frequently crosses over into dehumanization of providers. Their service is the commodity, but the provider is still a human being and deserving of consideration, care, and respect. Unfortunately, that is often overlooked.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Aaron_Bauder

[Trick]

I enjoy flirty text exchanges with providers but I take my cue from the provider himself. My initial texts are very business like, just like the exchanges I’ve had with other service providers like lawn maintenance and repair guys. Even when discussing the “into” part, I try my best to be very respectful and sensitive. But if the provider so chooses to reply with flirty remarks like, “I’m looking forward to being inside of you”, I reciprocate. I draw the line when he starts saying, “I can’t wait for you to be my bitch and ram my rod into your hole”

[Trick]

I enjoy flirty text exchanges with providers but I take my cue from the provider himself. My initial texts are very business like, just like the exchanges I’ve had with other service providers like lawn maintenance and repair guys. Even when discussing the “into” part, I try my best to be very respectful and sensitive. But if the provider so chooses to reply with flirty remarks like, “I’m looking forward to being inside of you”, I reciprocate. I draw the line when he starts saying, “I can’t wait for you to be my bitch and ram my rod into your hole”

[rogerG]

Even a lawyer chooses his clientele based on their case.

The law is a very complicated service business, often with strict requirements. Comparing the needs of a customer with a specific legal issue to the needs of a customer seeking escort services is silly.

[rogerG]

Even a lawyer chooses his clientele based on their case.

The law is a very complicated service business, often with strict requirements. Comparing the needs of a customer with a specific legal issue to the needs of a customer seeking escort services is silly.

[hypothetically]

The law is a very complicated service business.

 

So is escorting, apparently.

Or this forum (which has been around for more than a decade and garnered hundreds of thousands of inquiries about the intricacies of the business) wouldn’t exist, now would it?

[hypothetically]

The law is a very complicated service business.

 

So is escorting, apparently.

Or this forum (which has been around for more than a decade and garnered hundreds of thousands of inquiries about the intricacies of the business) wouldn’t exist, now would it?

[beachboy]

I think that although vulgarity is deplorable in contacting a provider, it can stem from over enthusiasm from a client who maybe cannot hire very often & becomes a little too excited by the thought of an appointment with a hot guy.

 

This in no way excuses such behaviour & clients need to remember that this is a provider's living & his approach to an appointment is going to be entirely different.

 

Respect & appreciation go a long way to ensuring a successful meeting.

[beachboy]

I think that although vulgarity is deplorable in contacting a provider, it can stem from over enthusiasm from a client who maybe cannot hire very often & becomes a little too excited by the thought of an appointment with a hot guy.

 

This in no way excuses such behaviour & clients need to remember that this is a provider's living & his approach to an appointment is going to be entirely different.

 

Respect & appreciation go a long way to ensuring a successful meeting.