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I asked him his rates, I asked him if he would bottom and he said he would .... (maybe) but he would have to raise the price significantly

I had also chatted with him previously on webcam.... he aggressively looks for money in my opinion. BUT then there are people who get into muscle worship and that is not me. No offense to the people who do, everyone has there things....

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I asked him his rates, I asked him if he would bottom and he said he would .... (maybe) but he would have to raise the price significantly

I had also chatted with him previously on webcam.... he aggressively looks for money in my opinion. BUT then there are people who get into muscle worship and that is not me. No offense to the people who do, everyone has there things....

 

I think you've hit it on the head. Jake is catering to a niche -- clients who want to experience being with a muscular guy but not necessary for penetrative sex. For clients who like muscles but are more about the sex, his prices are extravagant and his activities too limited. For guys who prioritize the muscles and not the sex, he is an ideal worth paying to see. Getting him to go beyond the non-sexual, or to do specific sexual things is outside the norm for him, is not guaranteed to occur, and will cost a lot.

 

I'd rather not hire a guy if I think he's uncomfortable with what I like to do. I don't want to bribe him into doing what he is uncomfortable with doing.

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I think you've hit it on the head. Jake is catering to a niche -- clients who want to experience being with a muscular guy but not necessary for penetrative sex. For clients who like muscles but are more about the sex, his prices are extravagant and his activities too limited. For guys who prioritize the muscles and not the sex, he is an ideal worth paying to see. Getting him to go beyond the non-sexual, or to do specific sexual things is outside the norm for him, is not guaranteed to occur, and will cost a lot.

 

I'd rather not hire a guy if I think he's uncomfortable with what I like to do. I don't want to bribe him into doing what he is uncomfortable with doing.

 

He’s a hot kid with an awesome body, but frankly, in NYC at least, I can hire bigger guys with bigger dicks and fewer hangups for less money.

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I have said many many times here that hiring a straight muscle stud will get you limited services.... at first. It's an expensive sport with no guarantees towards an outcome you desire. That being said, if you have a great time with the minimum requirements in your session, hiring multiple times may (if the escort gets comfortable with you) get you towards your desired goal. It may not as well. So at the end of the day you have to ask yourself "was that an awesome time and worth the rate for my minimum requirements?". If so, then proceed on with hiring over and over.

 

I cant tell you the times these studs have "loosened up" their "will dos" for me with this strategy. Funny thing is I dont ever remember being the one to initiate pushing their boundaries.

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jake sure does seem to LOVE riding a dildo and snorting poppers to no end in his videos. he also seemed to love getting fucked unmercilessly for gay hoopla guys in his younger days. much more than the straight guys i have ever been with. i think he is just maximizing his potential $$$ with his known "assets".

 

maybe bringing fresh poppers and a pocket full of benjamins will do the trick. also... making the escort comfortable with you and not push or rush him is paramount with this sort of setting. funny thing is they will not allow to be done to them what they all do to the sluts they bang!

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jake sure does seem to LOVE riding a dildo and snorting poppers to no end in his videos. he also seemed to love getting fucked unmercilessly for gay hoopla guys in his younger days. much more than the straight guys i have ever been with. i think he is just maximizing his potential $$$ with his known "assets".

 

maybe bringing fresh poppers and a pocket full of benjamins will do the trick. also... making the escort comfortable with you and not push or rush him is paramount with this sort of setting. funny thing is they will not allow to be done to them what they all do to the sluts they bang!

It makes me wonder if something about his early porn days left a bad taste in his mouth (figurative and/or literal). I recall him telling me once that GH had ripped him off somehow - didn't pay him for a scene, something like that.

 

I agree though. I think the right approach (and flow of cash) could easily get Jake to open up for more things.

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I asked him his rates, I asked him if he would bottom and he said he would .... (maybe) but he would have to raise the price significantly

I had also chatted with him previously on webcam.... he aggressively looks for money in my opinion. BUT then there are people who get into muscle worship and that is not me. No offense to the people who do, everyone has there things....

@good ol boy – he was a bottom for me ONCE and then flaked the other time he was supposed to show up for a booking. Look at my other posts.

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also seemed to love getting fucked unmercilessly for gay hoopla guys in his younger days. much more than the straight guys i have ever been with. i think he is just maximizing his potential $$$ with his known "assets".

 

Porn is showcasing a fantasy and is different than the interactions they have with us as escorts. He could be into anal play or is more likely someone who needed a lot of "help" to do penetrative sex on camera, despite his "assets".

 

If that was the case for adult actors (especially the straight ones), I would of hired Sean Cody's Ollie by now.

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Nice guy. Handsome. Good body. Tons of videos online for you to watch him in action. Mostly gay-for-pay, so my advice is to be very clear on what you want to do before you go see him. Spontaneity is not usually what he does, so if he’s not prepared he probably won’t go there. He does it all though, but mostly focused on muscle worship. A few things I don’t really like such as counting money in front of you, talking a lot, checking the time, etc. He likes women and trans. He has a girlfriend. YMMV. I’d recommend, just go in prepared.

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Nice guy. Handsome. Good body. Tons of videos online for you to watch him in action. Mostly gay-for-pay, so my advice is to be very clear on what you want to do before you go see him. Spontaneity is not usually what he does, so if he’s not prepared he probably won’t go there. He does it all though, but mostly focused on muscle worship. A few things I don’t really like such as counting money in front of you, talking a lot, checking the time, etc. He likes women and trans. He has a girlfriend. YMMV. I’d recommend, just go in prepared.

I do wonder if he's more open to things (yes that) with regular clients.

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Here is the answer. If she herself is an escort and/or knows what she got herself into.... that's fine. Yet knowing that both partners may be having random sex multiple times a day with other people and spreading std's to pass on to clients is a turn off to me.

 

Also, if the partner to the male escort is not aware of what he is doing, then she quite possibly is in a relationship that she didnt knowingly sign up for. I cant in good conscience be having my "fun" with that doubt in my head knowing it could be possible. So to answer the question, it is a mental choice of MY comfortability.

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Here is the answer. If she herself is an escort and/or knows what she got herself into.... that's fine. Yet knowing that both partners may be having random sex multiple times a day with other people and spreading std's to pass on to clients is a turn off to me.

 

Also, if the partner to the male escort is not aware of what he is doing, then she quite possibly is in a relationship that she didnt knowingly sign up for. I cant in good conscience be having my "fun" with that doubt in my head knowing it could be possible. So to answer the question, it is a mental choice of MY comfortability.

I respect your sensibilities, though of course you can't necessarily know that ANY escort you hire doesn't fit that scenario. I do get that there's a difference between something theoretical and something confirmed - even to a degree.

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Here is the answer. If she herself is an escort and/or knows what she got herself into.... that's fine. Yet knowing that both partners may be having random sex multiple times a day with other people and spreading std's to pass on to clients is a turn off to me.

 

Also, if the partner to the male escort is not aware of what he is doing, then she quite possibly is in a relationship that she didnt knowingly sign up for. I cant in good conscience be having my "fun" with that doubt in my head knowing it could be possible. So to answer the question, it is a mental choice of MY comfortability.

I definitely understand your point of view.

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guru you are correct. its if i KNOW or not. If i see a hot hot guy that i have had my eye on for some time and he pops up in my city and its a one time thing, then i really dont care to know. i like having a regular since i get a feel for the character of the person as much as the hotness of his body. You can read between the lines real quick if he has a girlfriend or not.

 

i remember seeing the uber hot ZK. you guys will know who i am talking about. hired him. great body nice guy once when i was in chicago. after that i found out his name and IG account. Married and i believe with a baby on the way. WTF! he or his handler hit me up saying he was going to be in my city. hell would have to freeze before i saw him again. i'm gonna be all over that hotness hearing a baby crying for his momma in my head? HE may be fine with his decision and its consequences. I am not. just how i roll.

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guru you are correct. its if i KNOW or not. If i see a hot hot guy that i have had my eye on for some time and he pops up in my city and its a one time thing, then i really dont care to know. i like having a regular since i get a feel for the character of the person as much as the hotness of his body. You can read between the lines real quick if he has a girlfriend or not.

 

i remember seeing the uber hot ZK. you guys will know who i am talking about. hired him. great body nice guy once when i was in chicago. after that i found out his name and IG account. Married and i believe with a baby on the way. WTF! he or his handler hit me up saying he was going to be in my city. hell would have to freeze before i saw him again. i'm gonna be all over that hotness hearing a baby crying for his momma in my head? HE may be fine with his decision and its consequences. I am not. just how i roll.

Interestingly enough it appears he might be separated or divorced now.

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guru you are correct. its if i KNOW or not. If i see a hot hot guy that i have had my eye on for some time and he pops up in my city and its a one time thing, then i really dont care to know. i like having a regular since i get a feel for the character of the person as much as the hotness of his body. You can read between the lines real quick if he has a girlfriend or not.

 

i remember seeing the uber hot ZK. you guys will know who i am talking about. hired him. great body nice guy once when i was in chicago. after that i found out his name and IG account. Married and i believe with a baby on the way. WTF! he or his handler hit me up saying he was going to be in my city. hell would have to freeze before i saw him again. i'm gonna be all over that hotness hearing a baby crying for his momma in my head? HE may be fine with his decision and its consequences. I am not. just how i roll.

 

In an odd way, knowing he has a family to support would almost make me want to hire him more. If I knew that was the case and didn't hire him because of that, it would feel to me that I'm, in a fucked up way, taking food out of his baby's mouth.

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