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Too many guys, gay and straight, don't anchor progress in stable, healthy muscle mentality. That's how people end up with lifelong self-image issues, steroid abuse and other things that tend to haunt you.

 

Good overall health, flexibility and smart aging is the cornerstone of a solid gym routine.

 

 

I confess to a touch of body dysmorphia. The way I look in the mirror doesn't match up with the feedback I get from others.

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It's the nature of the beast. I'm 6'3" 205 and still feel like a small guy at times.

 

As long as you feel you can control it versus it controlling you.

 

Some months ago, my coach advised me to relax and really enjoy being big.

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Too many guys, gay and straight, don't anchor progress in stable, healthy muscle mentality. That's how people end up with lifelong self-image issues, steroid abuse and other things that tend to haunt you.

 

Good overall health, flexibility and smart aging is the cornerstone of a solid gym routine.

 

I'm close to 6'3" with a dad bod and happy af. I might give it another go to get rid of the excess adipose, but my wife loves me as I am and frankly, I'd rather spend time with my kids who are growing up too damn fast.

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I'm close to 6'3" with a dad bod and happy af. I might give it another go to get rid of the excess adipose, but my wife loves me as I am and frankly, I'd rather spend time with my kids who are growing up too damn fast.

 

Great priorities!

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Some months ago, my coach advised me to relax and really enjoy being big.

 

Take the advice. You really don't want to develop a psychological or somatic issue or two. Body dysmorphic disorder is no joke.

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Too many guys, gay and straight, don't anchor progress in stable, healthy muscle mentality. That's how people end up with lifelong self-image issues, steroid abuse and other things that tend to haunt you.

 

Good overall health, flexibility and smart aging is the cornerstone of a solid gym routine.

 

Agree. I like being swole seasonally but it serves absolutely no purpose. It does not yield the result you think it will long term.

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Take the advice. You really don't want to develop a psychological or somatic issue or two. Body dysmorphic disorder is no joke.

 

I had a series of mentoring sessions with a well known body building author. He said a skinny man will find it almost impossible to gain muscle and and keep it on until he loses his skinny man's mindset. He said skinny guys and big guys have different mindsets and the skinny guy needs to learn the big man's mindset in order to put on muscle and keep it. That's essentially what my coach was saying.

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Too many guys, gay and straight, don't anchor progress in stable, healthy muscle mentality. That's how people end up with lifelong self-image issues, steroid abuse and other things that tend to haunt you.

 

Good overall health, flexibility and smart aging is the cornerstone of a solid gym routine.

 

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. I am trying to find that balance. People tell me I am buff but I feel small. I am 6'1 and about 190 lbs.

 

@Rudynate I understand your feelings.

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I had a series of mentoring sessions with a well known body building author. He said a skinny man will find it almost impossible to gain muscle and and keep it on until he loses his skinny man's mindset. He said skinny guys and big guys have different mindsets and the skinny guy needs to learn the big man's mindset in order to put on muscle and keep it. That's essentially what my coach was saying.

 

@Rudynate - that's exactly what I'm struggling with in a coaching process I'm doing right now. (Except, for me, it's not skinny/big but fat/fit.) I'm really struggling to find my way to the fit-guy mindset.

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I got back into fitness at first for health reasons, to lose weight, and then to regain muscle and mobility after the weightloss. My trainer is all about function, which was fine at first, because I was a barely functional mess; but with improved function came just enough cosmetic improvement (triceps! abs! veins!) to pique my vanity and ego. So eventually my trainer and I came to an understanding: 2-3 times a week he trains me like an athlete—not for any particular sport, but just to gain as much strength, agility, and flexibility as I can, which I have grown to appreciate for its own sake, even to crave—and once or twice a week he lets me off the leash so I can train the “beach muscles” on my own. It’s a pretty good partnership.

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Can anyone recommend an escort who is a personal trainer in the NYC area?

 

I’ve trained under guys (so to speak ...) who I had previously hired as escorts. It was OK, but a bit weird. In both instances we kept a perfectly professional trainer/client vibe, but still, it was ... weird, and I don’t recommend training under somebody you’ve fucked, or might potentially fuck, if for no other reason that it can mess up your focus in a situation that should require all your attention.

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I sincerely hope "escort physique" does not mean to you bodybuilder's body. I find bodybuilders out of proportion, grotesque when they are nude and ridiculous with a jacket.

 

Putting aside aesthetics and personal preferences, bodybuilding is bad for the health. Same as in obesity, carrying 100 kilos puts a strain to the heart, the skeleton, the whole body and it makes no difference if the weight is from fat or muscle.

 

I am a former swimmer from my early school days and chose to stick to minimum muscle definition and lots of aerobic stamina and flexibility. My focus is health, looking good nude and smart in a suit. I do 30 mins of exercise every day. One day per week some form of muscle training - machines, free weights, strength bands, power plate. The other days I do pilates, swim and play tennis. I also have a program I can do on the floor when I travel and do not want to use the hotel's gym or pool.

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... ridiculous with a jacket

 

Funny you mention this, as I see a few guys who gently warn me from getting 'too big' so that I didn't look like overstuffed sausage in formalwear.

 

Even with great tailoring or bespoke (which many muscle guys don't take the time to do), it's still a tough look to sell. They tend to seriously stand out in a crowd and in many instances, that's not always a positive thing.

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Funny you mention this, as I see a few guys who gently warn me from getting 'too big' so that I didn't look like overstuffed sausage in formalwear.

 

Laughed at the overstuffed sausage :)

 

Don't worry, I don't think you will ever look like that :)

 

By the way, I often skip chest exercises to make sure I keep looking good in my bespoke suits.

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I’ve trained under guys (so to speak ...) who I had previously hired as escorts. It was OK, but a bit weird. In both instances we kept a perfectly professional trainer/client vibe, but still, it was ... weird, and I don’t recommend training under somebody you’ve fucked, or might potentially fuck, if for no other reason that it can mess up your focus in a situation that should require all your attention.

 

 

I'll catch hell for this, but I confess I prefer straight guys as trainer/coach.

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Funny you mention this, as I see a few guys who gently warn me from getting 'too big' so that I didn't look like overstuffed sausage in formalwear.

 

Even with great tailoring or bespoke (which many muscle guys don't take the time to do), it's still a tough look to sell. They tend to seriously stand out in a crowd and in many instances, that's not always a positive thing.

 

 

Sure, bodybuilder-big presents all sorts of awkward lifestyle challenges. To me, the sweetspot is just this side of bodybuilder-big

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I'll catch hell for this, but I confess I prefer straight guys as trainer/coach.

 

Thank you for saying this. Agreed wholeheartedly.

 

I don't want to fuck my trainer: I want them to do their job. This is one part of my life I will never, ever sexualize.

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I'll catch hell for this, but I confess I prefer straight guys as trainer/coach.

 

Oh, absolutely. Flirting and arousal in the gym makes for a good porn scenario, but not necessarily a good workout. Frankly, if I or my trainer is CAPABLE of being horny in the middle of a hardcore workout, then one of us isn’t doing their job.

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I never planned it, but had a huge crush, in my 50s, on an escort who also was a novice personal trainer who was also getting some expert mentoring on program design.

 

We agreed on a short trial of training, ended up mixing the two roles for 30 months. I had obviously been working out poorly for decades because I peaked at a low-body-fat but rather skinny size, and low but healthy weight for my height.

 

For years I had dreamed of getting just that extra 10% that would still bring me to a weight (still) more slender than a swimmer build. Slowly, steadily, with an approach more geared to high resistance less reps, changing the routine every 4-6 weeks, I got to 17% greater weight than baseline. About one pound max per month on average. Not big by any stretch but appropriate for my frame.

 

Half of workouts with him, half on my own, never more than two at a time on my own.

 

For me, bending to his rigourous programs was exciting and the additional treats were incentivizing.

 

I agree in principle that it was training heresy but it worked for me.

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I'll catch hell for this, but I confess I prefer straight guys as trainer/coach.

 

I've worked with four trainers in three different cities (all in their mid20s) since I started getting serious about 4 years ago. All four have been totally hot, totally straight, and totally gay-affirming (ie chill/comfortable). All counted a number of middle-aged gay dudes among their clients.

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Oh, absolutely. Flirting and arousal in the gym makes for a good porn scenario, but not necessarily a good workout. Frankly, if I or my trainer is CAPABLE of being horny in the middle of a hardcore workout, then one of us isn’t doing their job.

 

 

It isn't to avoid sexual involvement. I'm perfectly capable of preserving the professional footing of a professional relationship. I worked out those boundary issues a long time ago. I don't develop crushes easily. I just like being around straight guys. And I really enjoy that dumb jock style that so many straight guys adopt in the gym. It even rubs off on me a little but I drop it as soon as I leave the gym.

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It isn't to avoid sexual involvement. I'm perfectly capable of preserving the professional footing of a professional relationship. I worked out those boundary issues a long time ago. I don't develop crushes easily. I just like being around straight guys. And I really enjoy that dumb jock style that so many straight guys adopt in the gym. It even rubs off on me a little but I drop it as soon as I leave the gym.

 

Well yes, there’s that! My trainer reminds me of straight jock friends of mine from high school. We banter a lot—he kids me about my boyfriends, I kid him about his girlfriends—it’s a hoot.

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Well yes, there’s that! My trainer reminds me of straight jock friends of mine from high school. We banter a lot—he kids me about my boyfriends, I kid him about his girlfriends—it’s a hoot.

 

 

 

There's more to it than that. A massive shift in how I see myself is taking place. For example my coach reminds me again and again that I'm an athlete. And I realized not long ago, that I've begun to see myself as an athlete. I told my partner this the other day and he didn't know what to say. Finally, he said, "My husband's an athlete!"

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