What makes a good one-night-stand?

[+ Charlie]

There have been a number of threads recently about long term relationships with an escort, traveling with an escort, "courtesan-class" escorts, etc. Many of us, however, hire escorts for only an hour or two, for casual sex. So if you are tired of the Ben Nicholas story, perhaps you would like to discuss what you think makes a good short term escort. I'll start.

 

1. His looks must turn me on sexually. (This is something over which neither of us has much control; even I couldn't clearly say exactly what physical attributes will start my engine at any given moment, since I have no special type or unwavering fetish.)

 

2. He must be comfortable with himself. (No guilt feelings about sex with strangers, no self-loathing for accepting money for sex, etc.)

 

3. He must be comfortable with me. (He must not find me physically repulsive or personally offensive--if he does, he must hide it artfully; he must not feel contempt for men who pay for sex. He must trust that I will pay him at the end of the appointment.)

 

4. He must speak English, or some other language that I understand, well enough that we can communicate clearly. (But he must not chatter compulsively, especially about himself.)

 

5. He must be clean. (Good grooming, sweet breath, no perfumed fragrances.)

 

6. He must be healthy. (No easily communicable diseases, common STDs, rashes, boils, infections, needle marks, etc.)

 

7. He must be sober. (No drugs or alcohol, unless we have agreed on it in advance.)

 

8. He must be trustworthy. (He must not ask for more money than we agreed on, steal from me, nor talk about me to other clients--and he shouldn't tell me about his other clients.)

 

9. He must be on time, and be actively engaged for the full time period.

 

10. He must do what he said he would do, whatever that may be. (Even better if he is creative and does more than just what was agreed to.)

 

11. He must not do things that I don't enjoy. (And he must stop immediately if I tell him to.)

 

12. He must give me a chance to recuperate after I cum.

 

13. He must continue to be pleasant after one or both of us have cum, and after he has been paid.

 

14. He must remember that this is a business transaction and not assume that, just because I have sucked his cock, we are now good friends, unless I indicate that I am open to that.

 

15. He must not contact me in the future to solicit more business from me. (Although if he is from out of town, he may let me know when he is traveling my way again.)

 

That's my list. Feel free to add to it or amend it.

[SAdler]

http://m4m.m4m-forum.org/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=11318&mesg_id=11318&listing_type=search

[+ Charlie]

Thanks, Scott. I knew there were earlier threads on this. However, it's a game one can play again and again, like Scrabble.

[SAdler]

Only reason I posted that is if you read the thread in question 140 replies later some people were banned, tensions mounted, and people just got angry.

 

Unless you want to start some fights with escorts or pour salt in the wounds, I dont think that thread is one we want to resurrect especially as a "game"

[Louis]

I know what makes a good one night stand, but more importantly know who.....the previous poster..:-)

[+ Lucky]

God forbid that someone would start a thread that didn't meet with Scott's approval! Perhaps if the other one descended into name-calling, etc. all the more reason to start a new one free of same. It is a fun subject to discuss.

[+ Charlie]

And that means that if a game ends in a fight, it's a bad game and should never be played again?

[JT Brooklyn]

Charlie...Well Put. Totally Agree!

 

Sorry though I don't have a Giganto "AD" Photo to go with this comment though! LOL :P

[SAdler]

>God forbid that someone would start a thread that didn't meet with >Scott's approval!

 

DEAR GOD LUCKY GET OVER IT. I'M REALLY GETTING SICK OF YOUR CHILDISH COMMENTS BECAUSE I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU WHAT YOU THINK YOU "DESERVED."

 

>Perhaps if the other one descended into name-

>calling, etc. all the

>more reason to start a new one free of same.

>It is a fun subject

>to discuss.

 

Talk about deluded. Do you really believe (especially with the mean girls back in the sand box) that ANY thread on this board can't vortex into name calling?

 

>And that means that if a game ends in a fight, it's a bad

>game and should never be played again?

 

Of course that's not what I meant. I'm just saying that the topic had been addressed and all that seemed to surface from it were extreme differences in opinion that led to personal attacks and miscommunication.

 

I just find it interesting that when topics have been discussed in the past and someone posts a link to the old topic being discussed it's all that needs to be done. When I do it, I get attacked when the only thing I'm trying to do is prevent the fur from flying in the next cat fight.

[+ Lucky]

What is it that I think I deserve, Scott? Just because I didn't hire you when you came to town shouldn't earn me the vitriol that you have hurled at me online and in private messages since then. You are the only escort whose email address I have had to block to stop the nasty messages. Save your scorn for someone else!

[SAdler]

>What is it that I think I deserve, Scott? Just because I

>didn't hire you when you came to town shouldn't earn me the

>vitriol that you have hurled at me online and in private

>messages since then. You are the only escort whose email

>address I have had to block to stop the nasty messages. Save

>your scorn for someone else!

 

WOW talk about delusional. But it's beneath me to post private messages.

 

I had no desire for you to hire me at ANY point Lucky and you didn't block my messages I started sending yours to junk mail because of your attacks because you wouldn't stop pestering me for information. Your posts on this board to me prove that much. As to the nonsense about "scorn" for not being hired, there is not even a shred of proof to that since I was booked solid that weekend and have voicemails from you where you tried to set me up with your friend. Grow UP!

 

ANYONE that was at the weekend can see through the BLATANT lies in that comment. Take a look at your comments to me SINCE I refused to give you the information you demanded publicly and privately and talk to me about vitriol. I didn't think it was possible but now

 

I'm beginning to see MindtheGap's point of view on some topics.

Good luck in finding the help you apparently need. Seriously, you stop the attacks on me and I'll have nothing to respond to as demonstrated.

[Lookin]

Charlie, like you, I usually hook up with a guy for an hour or two. But my list of requirements would be shorter than yours. I’d like a guy whose looks turn me on. I’d like him to be pretty easy going, and that may be what you mean by “comfortable”. And I’d agree that he should be clean, healthy, and trustworthy. The rest of the items on your list would be nice, but would not be mandatory in order for me to have a good time. The one thing I’d add is that I’d like him to be “present”, and relate to me as a fellow human being.

 

Only twice have I had a bad time, and they were both guys who were “takers”. Neither one had been commented on or reviewed here yet and, when they were, it was exactly the same sad story. If a guy is a decent human being, and even somewhat hot, I’m going to find something fun to do.

 

One good thing about hiring for an hour or two is that I’m not going to be devastated if I have a so-so experience. I just won’t get together with that guy again. But most of the guys I see are repeats.

 

Thanks for starting this thread. It’s helpful for me to see what other guys are looking for in a hookup. If it turns into a fight, it’s probably because someone feels like fighting, rather than the subject matter.

 

I would also love to see a corollary thread, and find out what escorts look for in a client. Solvency, sure, but my guess is that mutual respect would be high on the list. I expect that’s a subject that has been covered before too. Archives, here I come!

[SAdler]

>I would also love to see a corollary thread, and find out what

>escorts look for in a client. Solvency, sure, but my guess is

>that mutual respect would be high on the list. I expect

>that’s a subject that has been covered before too. Archives,

>here I come!

 

Yeeeeeeeeeuuup ... same thread I posted earlier

[+ Lucky]

As to was pestering whom, here's my evidence, and all of these came AFTER the theater weekend until I blocked you:

 

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18 Message(s)

[+ Charlie]

Well, Scott was right about one thing: it didn't take long for this thread to degenerate into a fight, though I don't think the topic had much to do with it.

[Guest carter07]

Charlie, to stay on topic, your list is pretty complete and I agree with Lookin that after the essentials everything else is nice but not always necessary for an hour or two of congenial socializing.. I have had only one disappointing experience in the last three years and that was as much my fault as the guy's because I insisted on a time of day that really didn't work for him. I now see one particular guy on a somewhat regular basis for a two-hour period and we like each other and respect each other and in the end that is what counts most.

[+ purplekow]

While I usually am more likely to hire the same man repeatedly, when travelling to a new city, I will almost always hire for one night.

I will usually have dinner as well as the unleashing of carnal lust.

So I like someone with an open and active mind, someone who can keep his eyes on my face and off the waiter's ass. Someone that can go from standard small talk to something of interest in a rather short span of time. Some who is willing to share something of himself. Someone who is a good listener. Someone who will touch me in public view or under the table

Someone who will have me hard with the anticipation of getting back to the room and who will remember my name and use it while we fuck.

Someone who will enjoy (or at least seem to enjoy) our encounter as much as I do. Someone who I would consider making a side trip to his city to see if, I were travelling nearby.

Oh yeah someone with a big dick. lol

[Louis]

For me a hot time is to be with a guy who is (and not in that order)

1: around 5'10" or not more than six feet.(there can be exceptions)

2: who is well toned, and has defined muscles,

3: has smooth skin

4: none smoker

5: shows an interest in me by asking questions, and communicates well.

6: is versatile

7: likes to reciprocate

8: likes to touch, and be touched

9: can initiate things on his own

10: likes to take things at an easy pace and not rush

[Guest zipperzone]

>someone who

>can keep his eyes on my face and off the waiter's ass.

 

Well now - that wouldn't be a problem for me. If the waiter's ass was truly a thing of wonder, I'd probably be checking it out myself and if we were both doing it, think of the lively conversation that could occur.

 

There's even the possibility that the waiter could join us when he was off his shift!

[SAdler]

You're right and I have no problem doing the mature thing and not posting private headers that obviously show nothing Sorry that the exchange lasted as long as it did.

 

Good luck with this thread What you might find though is that by escorts staying out of it you'll get less animosity but also far less relevant input because it's hard not to step on people's toes with this topic.

[augustman]

I will start by saying I usually do 2-3 hour appts or overnights and I do so because sometimes it takes a couple of tries to get me off and I do not want the pressure of an hour.

 

In both good communications are key from both client and escort.

 

For the shorter appts for me after being clean and on time:

1. A sexual attraction upon meeting, usually the eyes or mouth. I find demanding eyes with a smile, breakdowns almost any resistance I might have.

2. A simple touch with in seconds of meeting, either to my arm or thigh while staring into my eyes with an air of confidence that I am now his to do with as he pleases.

3. A well-defined body. I am as turned on by muscles as I am by a nice runners body.

A moment to digress, I am a person who likes to close my eyes once sex has begun. I prefer to allow my mouth, my hands and body provide the sensory to my brain. I think the eyes are a great deception during sex. I am always impressed with the touch of a runners lower body because the muscles are not bulging but when touched are like steel cables attached to a rock of an ass.

4. Lips and mouth for much kissing, passion and tenderness, I love both.

5. Lots of foreplay and willingness to play around in bed or the shower.

6. I love talking while in bed, lots of verbal, nasty or playful. I like both.

7. A guy that loves to use every part of his body for sex. But constant movement of his hands and mouth.

8. An intense fuck but ability to enjoy and give direction. Believe me it shows.

9. Maybe most important making a client feel like he is adding to the sexual play, especially in his actions. Even though as a client I know the escort is doing a job, the ability of the escort to make the client feel that this is anything but a job is the essence of any good meeting.

 

I know I will tick off more than a few working guys if I use the word acting because it sounds a bit degrading. But when an escort tells me that I was incredible and and the best he has ever had well I do doubt that, but it is a great fantasy and I feel good.

 

I to love hearing what makes good clients too. But I think the first couple of things that come to mind are being up front with the escort about what you are looking for and being clean.

[raulgmanzo]

---- Lookin writes:

>I would also love to see a corollary thread, and find out what

>escorts look for in a client. Solvency, sure, but my guess is

>that mutual respect would be high on the list.

 

Hopefully the client has self-respect and hires me as a treat rather than a "fix for a bad habit". For purposes of discretion I'll happily leave through the back door but hopefully not because the client feels bad or dirty. This of course is related to Charlies point #2.

 

---- Augustman wrote:

>9. Maybe most important making a client feel like he is adding

>to the sexual play, especially in his actions. Even though as

>a client I know the escort is doing a job, the ability of the

>escort to make the client feel that this is anything but a job

>is the essence of any good meeting.

>

>I know I will tick off more than a few working guys if I use

>the word acting because it sounds a bit degrading...

 

It may be a job but it isn't ONLY a job. It's something I (and many escorts) love doing and have freely chosen. I suspect many escorts see clients that have something that has attracted us even if it usually isn't a buff body. And so it doesn't need to be acting though I'm not offended by the notion that acting can be part of it. Fantasy and acting is often part of fun sex even between lovers.

 

In my case I'm turned on by a client who is interactive, playful and willing to communicate their desires. And narcisim it may be but I like that the client finds me hot. That makes me want to pleasure them and physically confirm their belief that I'm hot.

 

I love a client who can be passionate even obsessive about sex and fetishes but still laugh. I absolutely love being a visually sexy part of a fantasy, but once we get going it is play so if we can both let loose there is no reason we shouldn't BOTH have fun. While I take this "job" very seriously and still have lots to learn if I can't enjoy it most of the time then I need a different profession.

 

Raul

[+ purplekow]

>>someone who

>>can keep his eyes on my face and off the waiter's ass.

>

>Well now - that wouldn't be a problem for me. If the waiter's

>ass was truly a thing of wonder, I'd probably be checking it

>out myself and if we were both doing it, think of the lively

>conversation that could occur.

>

>There's even the possibility that the waiter could join us

>when he was off his shift!

 

I agree that both of us enjoying the passing parade of pulchritude might be fun, I would still prefer his attentions in my direction. I am more than happy to point out a hottie and ask my companion's take on him, but he should try not to be obvious in his lust for someone else while we are together unless he is going to regale me with his evil thoughts.

[jawjateck]

"What makes a good one-night stand?"

 

Hmmmmmmm......sleeping with any one of the following (or combination thereof):

 

Anton/Amsterdam

Steven Kesslar/SF

Dane Scott/NYC

Michael/Ft Myers

Ethan/Nashville

 

............Oh there are sooooo many.....Dang it, I keep thinking about all these studs, and I'll be back to hiring feverishly again. :9

[Traveler North]

From experience, can say you are right on the line with Anton and Michael. Am really hot to get together with Steve. Guess have to go to SF soon.