Get your throat swabbed.

[Eight by Six]

I hate to sound like a public service announcement. But I just had a THIRD friend tell me that as a gay man (who regularly sucks other guys to completion), he went into his doctor for a full STD screening (because of a chronic sore throat) and the (straight uninformed) family practitioner tested him for gonorrhea and chlamydia by giving him a urine test... only. THIS DOESN'T WORK.

 

When he and I talked and I expressed dismay, he followed up with his doctor, who insisted "people don't really get that in their throat - it's very, very unlikely". So he went to another doctor who swabbed. Sure enough... he had gonococcal gonorrhea.

 

I can attest that I personally have had gonorrhea in my throat (in the distant past) and I've known several other friends who have also. And of them - only about half had symptoms... the others just had knowledgeable doctors who knew their risk behaviors and wisely checked them in routine testing.

 

**Also NOTE this infection is getting more and more resistant to antibiotics - and only a few still work, so let's keep on top of it boys!

 

If your physician or practicing clinic doesn't swab your throat - get a new doctor.

 

Ok - off my soap box.

[rossthebosssf]

I concur with this post. I have gone almost my entire life without a STD with exception to the above mentioned. It wasn't until recently that I finally went to a gay doctor that performed this swab test and yes, it came out positive. The scary part is I could have had this for a longtime undetected and could have become more serious. Go somewhere where they do throat swabs. You'll be thankful for it. Also, after performing oral be sure to gargle with Listerine for 30 seconds as this can lessen your chance of getting this form of gonorrhea (not a cure though).

 

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19534807/listerine-and-gonorrhea/

[hunterlee]

I can count on my two hands how many guys have complimented me on using a condom for oral. I’ve lost count how many have complained and I’ve only started doing it 6 months ago. Pattern I’ve noticed the guys who complimented me were guys who lost friends to AIDS when there wasn’t a cure and they didn’t know what was going on. It’s scary.

 

It’s fucked up to expect someone to put themselves at risk when they have communicated openly and clearly they are not willing.

 

Too many assholes.

[Bearman]

I hate to sound like a public service announcement. But I just had a THIRD friend tell me that as a gay man (who regularly sucks other guys to completion), he went into his doctor for a full STD screening (because of a chronic sore throat) and the (straight uninformed) family practitioner tested him for gonorrhea and chlamydia by giving him a urine test... only. THIS DOESN'T WORK.

 

When he and I talked and I expressed dismay, he followed up with his doctor, who insisted "people don't really get that in their throat - it's very, very unlikely". So he went to another doctor who swabbed. Sure enough... he had gonococcal gonorrhea.

 

I can attest that I personally have had gonorrhea in my throat (in the distant past) and I've known several other friends who have also. And of them - only about half had symptoms... the others just had knowledgeable doctors who knew their risk behaviors and wisely checked them in routine testing.

 

**Also NOTE this infection is getting more and more resistant to antibiotics - and only a few still work, so let's keep on top of it boys!

 

If your physician or practicing clinic doesn't swab your throat - get a new doctor.

 

Ok - off my soap box.

 

This is SO very true. Not all medical personnel are informed on the ways STD's can be transmitted especially among gay men or even among bi and heterosexuals in the fetish scene. Once I had to request and explain why I wanted a throat culture to a shocked seasoned older male doctor. Another time I caught Chlamydia by receiving oral sex from a now retired escort in Vancouver. The female nurse practitioner I had to see back in the US (because I was traveling away from home and was the only one available), was horrified when I explained and educated her on gay male sex practices when I interrupted her lecture on the use of condoms and anal sex risks. She admitted to me she didn't know that Chlamydia and Gonorrhea could be transmitted orally. And I had to admit to her that while women in the sex trade did tend to use condoms for oral sex, men mostly didn't. Plus many of us assume that a cheap $15 crack whore is more likely to transmit something than a $300 "clean" escort!

 

So gentlemen, when going for your STD checks please request an oral swab if your doctor hasn't already included one and also an anal swab if you bareback. POS men tend to also assume that since they are HIV+ they have no need to protect themselves for anything else. Not so! Stay healthy!

Edited November 18, 2018 by Bearman

[rvwnsd]

I hate to sound like a public service announcement. But I just had a THIRD friend tell me that as a gay man (who regularly sucks other guys to completion), he went into his doctor for a full STD screening (because of a chronic sore throat) and the (straight uninformed) family practitioner tested him for gonorrhea and chlamydia by giving him a urine test... only. THIS DOESN'T WORK.

 

When he and I talked and I expressed dismay, he followed up with his doctor, who insisted "people don't really get that in their throat - it's very, very unlikely". So he went to another doctor who swabbed. Sure enough... he had gonococcal gonorrhea.

 

I can attest that I personally have had gonorrhea in my throat (in the distant past) and I've known several other friends who have also. And of them - only about half had symptoms... the others just had knowledgeable doctors who knew their risk behaviors and wisely checked them in routine testing.

 

**Also NOTE this infection is getting more and more resistant to antibiotics - and only a few still work, so let's keep on top of it boys!

 

If your physician or practicing clinic doesn't swab your throat - get a new doctor.

 

Ok - off my soap box.

I'd expand the warning to say "Find a primary care physician who is either gay or understands gay mens' health issues." Throat-swabbing is but a pixel of the picture that is one's overall health.

[caliguy]

I can count on my two hands how many guys have complimented me on using a condom for oral. I’ve lost count how many have complained and I’ve only started doing it 6 months ago. Pattern I’ve noticed the guys who complimented me were guys who lost friends to AIDS when there wasn’t a cure and they didn’t know what was going on. It’s scary.

 

It’s fucked up to expect someone to put themselves at risk when they have communicated openly and clearly they are not willing.

 

Too many assholes.

Since you make it clear that you have "few restrictions" you might want to make that obstacle clear in your ad and thus less complaints.

 

Example: I have a few restrictions; Fucking/sucking without a condom, illegal drug use, blood, violence and scat.

[Bearman]

I'd expand the warning to say "Find a primary care physician who is either gay or understands gay mens' health issues." Throat-swabbing is but a pixel of the picture that is one's overall health.

 

While I agree with you 100%, a "primary care physician who is either gay or understands gay men's health issues" is not a luxury everybody has available all the time.

[rvwnsd]

While I agree with you 100%, a "primary care physician who is either gay or understands gay men's health issues" is not a luxury everybody has available all the time.

It really is not a luxury. For starters, there are physician finders that allow one to specify search criteria such as "LGBT" or some such. Second, simply having a conversation with a PCP can tell you whether they are understanding. For example, when you inform your PCP that you have sex with men you can gauge his or her reaction. Additionally, if an LGBT-friendly PCP is located nearby a Google search will assist in finding health resources. For example, when I searched on "LGBT Health Resources Valdosta, GA" I found a link to the Georgia Department of Public Health South District website which states:

 

"Every county health department provides HIV testing daily; however, appointments may be needed. Call your local health department for more information."

I haven't searched for every small town or city in the US, but someone who is looking for information certainly can.

[Bearman]

It really is not a luxury. For starters, there are physician finders that allow one to specify search criteria such as "LGBT" or some such. Second, simply having a conversation with a PCP can tell you whether they are understanding. For example, when you inform your PCP that you have sex with men you can gauge his or her reaction. Additionally, if an LGBT-friendly PCP is located nearby a Google search will assist in finding health resources. For example, when I searched on "LGBT Health Resources Valdosta, GA" I found a link to the Georgia Department of Public Health South District website which states:

 

"Every county health department provides HIV testing daily; however, appointments may be needed. Call your local health department for more information."

I haven't searched for every small town or city in the US, but someone who is looking for information certainly can.

 

There are many factors that you are obviously missing. I've neither the time nor the crayons to explain them to you, plus you obviously just want to insist that you are completely right and that nobody would have any valid reason to not have a Gay or Gay Friendly PCP. JEEZ!

 

Anyway, points have been made. Take good care of yourselves guys! Great original post and advice from Eight by Six!

[+ Kufrol]

Would you consider posting this in The Lounge as well?

[+ Charlie]

As an added factor, if you get fucked in the ass, you ought to get an anal pap test. I was unaware of such a thing, until my gay doctor insisted I have one, even though I haven't had anal sex since the 20th century. Apparently, the HPV can incubate for many years before rectal cancer appears. As a side note, Medicare covers it for gay men.

[adventurous old guy]

Forgive if this question is off the wall, but can the receiver of oral sex get gonorrhea from a giver of oral sex who has g of the throat?

[+ Axiom2001]

I can count on my two hands how many guys have complimented me on using a condom for oral. I’ve lost count how many have complained and I’ve only started doing it 6 months ago. Pattern I’ve noticed the guys who complimented me were guys who lost friends to AIDS when there wasn’t a cure and they didn’t know what was going on. It’s scary. .....

 

Today in 2018 there is NO cure to stop AIDS; safer sexual practices are still highly advised.

 

 

 

Some years back I had my throat swabbed by a woman doctor at the Urgent Care Center; she did a superb job in diagnosing and treating and not being judgmental in any way. I write this because some communities don't have doctors who happen to be gay.

[+ goosh69]

I hate to sound like a public service announcement. But I just had a THIRD friend tell me that as a gay man (who regularly sucks other guys to completion), he went into his doctor for a full STD screening (because of a chronic sore throat) and the (straight uninformed) family practitioner tested him for gonorrhea and chlamydia by giving him a urine test... only. THIS DOESN'T WORK.

 

When he and I talked and I expressed dismay, he followed up with his doctor, who insisted "people don't really get that in their throat - it's very, very unlikely". So he went to another doctor who swabbed. Sure enough... he had gonococcal gonorrhea.

 

I can attest that I personally have had gonorrhea in my throat (in the distant past) and I've known several other friends who have also. And of them - only about half had symptoms... the others just had knowledgeable doctors who knew their risk behaviors and wisely checked them in routine testing.

 

**Also NOTE this infection is getting more and more resistant to antibiotics - and only a few still work, so let's keep on top of it boys!

 

If your physician or practicing clinic doesn't swab your throat - get a new doctor.

 

Ok - off my soap box.

I got it from my FIRST escort experience. Which was also my first sexual encounter with a man. It definitely happens. And it was worse than strep.

 

The escort had no symptoms and was just a carrier. I confronted him about it and he denied. But I’d literally never been with another man and hadn’t been with a woman for a year prior so...

[LivingnLA]

Forgive if this question is off the wall, but can the receiver of oral sex get gonorrhea from a giver of oral sex who has g of the throat?

 

As I have posted many times on the forum over the years, unprotected oral sex is risky for everyone involved. All the big STDs (chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, HIV, HPV, & HSV) are transmittable via unprotected oral and anal sex. The probability varies, but all--except HIV--are easily shared via unprotected oral sex.

 

@adventurous old guy, yes it's easy for a guy receiving a BJ to catch chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, HPV, & HSV from unprotected oral sex.

 

The problem with STD colonies in the throat or rectum are that they're usually asymptomatic for years, except for a sore or scratchy throat or possibly an itchy ass. I suspect these are frequently misdiagnosed. If you are not very aware of how your body feels and regularly tested, you could be a carrier and sharer of one or more STDs for years. Also, remember, chlamydia and gonorrhea are becoming highly resistant to all know treatments. If you catch one of the resistant strains, treating it could be very difficult.

When going for STD testing, throat and rectum swabs are basic best practice in addition to blood & urine tests for anyone having unprotected oral or anal sex.

Edited November 19, 2018 by LivingnLA

[Bearman]

Forgive if this question is off the wall, but can the receiver of oral sex get gonorrhea from a giver of oral sex who has g of the throat?

 

YES! Gonorrhea and Chlamydia also as happened to me after getting head from an escort. It can be asymptomatic for the carrier in the throat and rectum that is why swab cultures are necessary.

[LivingnLA]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/11/new-drug-shows-promise-in-treating-gonorrhea-in-early-trials/

 

It looks like we might have a new drug for treating even resistant gonorrhea in the rectum and genitals, but not the throat.

 

If you are not 100% sure you are playing with someone who's regularly tested and free of STDs, use condoms.

[adventurous old guy]

Wow. Really didn't know this.

[DMICS]

I’m defintely lucky the health clinic I go to has a staff of doctors (both hetero and gay) that are very knowledgeable and educated on STD/STIs.

 

I didn’t even know about the throat swab until I started getting checked after I informed the doctor I began having sexual encounters with guys.

[+ Pensant]

Sobering, indeed.

[Yeahman]

Since you make it clear that you have "few restrictions" you might want to make that obstacle clear in your ad and thus less complaints.

 

Example: I have a few restrictions; Fucking/sucking without a condom, illegal drug use, blood, violence and scat.

 

I love sucking hot dudes. Overwhelmingly worried about getting STD, but really don’t enjoy a plastic wrapped up cock. What are my options?

[Eight by Six]

I can count on my two hands how many guys have complimented me on using a condom for oral. I’ve lost count how many have complained and I’ve only started doing it 6 months ago. Pattern I’ve noticed the guys who complimented me were guys who lost friends to AIDS when there wasn’t a cure and they didn’t know what was going on. It’s scary.

 

It’s fucked up to expect someone to put themselves at risk when they have communicated openly and clearly they are not willing.

 

Too many assholes.

Hunter do you cover for both receptive and insertive oral? o

[Eight by Six]

I love sucking hot dudes. Overwhelmingly worried about getting STD, but really don’t enjoy a plastic wrapped up cock. What are my options?

Test regularly, and use common sense. A load of cum in your mouth and throat is LESS safe than simply sucking, but both could transmit. I have heard conflicting things on the use of post-oral gargling, but someone above posted: https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19534807/listerine-and-gonorrhea/

[+ E.T.Bass]

Where might one go, let's say in LA, to get all the appropriate swabs and tests for possible STDs? I doubt if my primary care provider would be the best choice.

[Fyton]

You can easily contract and transmit Chlamydia and Herpes even if you use a condom for anal. Isn't that enough risk for one encounter? And Herpes is forever.