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[BaronArtz]

Mandarin is the predominant dialect, although not the official language. And I believe Cantonese is an offshoot of Mandarin, whereas Mandarin isn't an offshoot of Cantonese.

 

China, not you, gets to decide which is standard. It has decided to use Mandarin. So yes, "Peking" is wrong and outdated.

 

Thanks, that explains it all. You truly ARE a total ignorant about all things Chinese.

Edited October 12, 2018 by BaronArtz

[Rudynate]

Agreed ... but only because it is convenient for everyone, and because every government (except Taiwan) has agreed to this. It is just an agreement, not a fundamental truth.

 

As is most international diplomacy.

[GBoi]

Mandarin is the predominant dialect, although not the official language. And I believe Cantonese is an offshoot of Mandarin, whereas Mandarin isn't an offshoot of Cantonese

 

Actually Cantonese and Mandarin are both offshoots of Middle Chinese. Neither of them are derived from the other. The Yue dialects tend to sound closer to the proto language, for example closing consonants in syllables, as well as preserving some words that were used in older dialects that are not present in modern spoken mandarin. This is primarily due to mass migration after dynastic changes as evidenced by Cantonese people referring to themselves more often as “people of Tang” vs modern Mandarin “middle country people” (although some sense of nationality comes into play e.g. huaren vs zhongguoren)

[Guy Fawkes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUckU-vAqI

[Mydavid]

I can't think of a city name in China that memorialises a person. Not even the Yellow Emperor.

There are some if not a lot.

I guess the most famois one is Zhong Shan City in Guang Dong province, whic memorialises Sun Zhongshan (Sun Yat-sen) who is the founder of K.M.T. Party.

[mike carey]

There are some if not a lot.

I guess the most famois one is Zhong Shan City in Guang Dong province, whic memorialises Sun Zhongshan (Sun Yat-sen) who is the founder of K.M.T. Party.

Of course!

 

(Although Zhong Shan is not the same name as Yat Sen: While at school in Hong Kong he got the art name Yat-sen (Chinese: 逸仙; pinyin: Yìxiān). Sūn Zhōngshān (孫中山), the most popular of his Chinese names, is derived from his Japanese name Nakayama Shō (中山樵), the pseudonym given to him by Tōten Miyazaki while in hiding in Japan.)

[+ quoththeraven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four

 

I remember Mao's "little red book". I even got a copy

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung

 

In the dispute as to which is the real China I favor Taiwan.

Mainland China is the real China. Taiwan is a splinter republic.

 

Those are facts. Which government you think is more democratic or legitimate is a different story. Taiwan is more democratic now but that was no more true at its founding than of the PRC. Both were undemocratic in different ways. Taiwan just didn't kill as many people over it later.

Mandarin is as different from Cantonese as English is from French. The difference is the writing system is shared and mutually understood. (As is Japanese if it is written only in Kanji.) What we call Mandarin is the 'standard' and official language. 'Dialect' is a misnomer.

Thanks for the correction. I had thought Mandarin wasn't the official language and that China was like India, with many official languages.

 

Funny story: my ex attended a training course some of whose attendees were from China. The poor guy from Hong Kong, who spoke Mandarin, Cantonese and English, got stuck translating for the guy from Guandong, who only knew Cantonese and some English, and the guy who only knew Mandarin and English.

 

Also I believe all the early Chinese immigrants to the US were from Guangdong, hence the predominance of Cantonese.

 

Hanja, the original Korean writing system, is also derived from Chinese characters. Hangul, the current writing system, is character based but phonetic, therefore totally different. Each character denotes a syllable and contains symbols for all the sounds within that syllable.

[+ quoththeraven]

The US did not want a king just like when the ancient Romans overthrew Tarquin the Proud; they did not want anymore kings. Caesar was killed because they thought that he wanted to become king.

 

The Brits did away with Cromwell's Commonwealth because they wanted a king.

No, they did away with the Commonwealth because the Roundheads were no fun.

 

(Actually it was because there was no competent successor to Cromwell and the country was pretty evenly divided anyway; Charles I was highhanded but his line was viewed as the legitimate, legal rulers.)

[Rudynate]

Do you know about San Francisco?

 

I had a Chinese co-worker who told me the story that one time when she and her husband (he was Mexican-American) were in a store in Chinatown, San Francisco she overheard an employee there speaking Chinese saying that they should keep an eye on those two. My co-worker said nothing and she and her husband left.

 

 

What was the point of your story? Living in San Francisco, with such a large population of foreign-born Chinese, one learns to roll with cultural differences. If you weren't able to do that, it would be a difficult place to live. There are plenty of rude, bad-mannered American small business owners.

[+ Avalon]

What was the point of your story? Living in San Francisco, with such a large population of foreign-born Chinese, one learns to roll with cultural differences. If you weren't able to do that, it would be a difficult place to live. There are plenty of rude, bad-mannered American small business owners.

 

I would have thought the Chinese store person might have thought my Chinese co-worker would have been able to understand the comments and refrained from making them.

[Rudynate]

I would have thought the Chinese store person might have thought my Chinese co-worker would have been able to understand the comments and refrained from making them.

 

 

The world very often isn't the you way you would have thought it should be.

[+ Avalon]

The world very often isn't the you way you would have thought it should be.

 

That is so very very true!!!!

[cany10011]

I would have thought the Chinese store person might have thought my Chinese co-worker would have been able to understand the comments and refrained from making them.

 

 

Perhaps she was with a “westerner” and so the shopkeeper assumed that she was whitewashed and did not speak a lick of Chinese.

 

Living in manhattan, you will find that a lot of people that speak languages that you would not imagine that they would. I am fluent in Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, and French. Not long a go, a Taiwanese friend and I were busy chatting away in French in a Chinese restaurant and said something catty about a neighboring table. The other Asian couple responded back in French and asked him why he was so rude. So one has to be truly discreet. Never know who might know/understand what you are saying about them.

[+ Avalon]

Perhaps she was with a “westerner” and so the shopkeeper assumed that she was whitewashed and did not speak a lick of Chinese.

 

Living in manhattan, you will find that a lot of people that speak languages that you would not imagine that they would. I am fluent in Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, and French. Not long a go, a Taiwanese friend and I were busy chatting away in French in a Chinese restaurant and said something catty about a neighboring table. The other Asian couple responded back in French and asked him why he was so rude. So one has to be truly discreet. Never know who might know/understand what you are saying about them.

 

Fascinating! Interesting! Thanks!

[+ quoththeraven]

No, they did away with the Commonwealth because the Roundheads were no fun.

 

(Actually it was because there was no competent successor to Cromwell and the country was pretty evenly divided anyway; Charles I was highhanded but his line was viewed as the legitimate, legal rulers.)

Actually Cromwell wanted his son to succeed him and that struck many as just another form of monarchy.

 

Besides, if they hadn't reinstated the royals, Charles II's mistress Nell Gwyn would not have become famous for saying "I am the King's Protestant whore" when anti-Catholic mobs attacked her carriage .

[+ Avalon]

Besides, if they hadn't reinstated the royals, Charles II'# mistress Nell Gwyn would not have become famous for saying "I am the King's Protestant whore" when anti-Catholic mobs attacked her carriage .

 

I loved that!!! :):)

[+ quoththeraven]

Along those lines, it was always amusing when my daughter, who is pink-skinned with copper colored hair and doesn't look Asian, said goodbye in Mandarin to the cashiers at the Asian market. However, she never reported that they said anything rude or controversial.

[+ quoththeraven]

I loved that!!! :):)

It was even more fun to learn it during a course on the history of London that was taught entirely with slides. That particular slide was a nude painting of Nell Gwyn.

[+ Avalon]

It was even more fun to learn it during a course on the history of London that was taught entirely with slides. That particular slide was a nude painting of Nell Gwyn.

 

Here is the King's Catholic whore

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_de_K%C3%A9rouaille,_Duchess_of_Portsmouth

 

King Charles II made a deathbed conversion to the Catholic Faith.

[+ FreshFluff]

So about male escorts in China..

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[Rudynate]

Along those lines, it was always amusing when my daughter, who is pink-skinned with copper colored hair and doesn't look Asian, said goodbye in Mandarin to the cashiers at the Asian market. However, she never reported that they said anything rude or controversial.

 

I love the sound of Mandarin spoken by western non-native speakers. It makes me want to run out and sign up for a class in Mandarin.

[Mydavid]

Of course!

 

(Although Zhong Shan is not the same name as Yat Sen: While at school in Hong Kong he got the art name Yat-sen (Chinese: 逸仙; pinyin: Yìxiān). Sūn Zhōngshān (孫中山), the most popular of his Chinese names, is derived from his Japanese name Nakayama Shō (中山樵), the pseudonym given to him by Tōten Miyazaki while in hiding in Japan.)

 

Most people (if not all) in mainland China call him Sun Zhongshan. His tomb is called Zhongshan Ling. His monument is called Zhongshan Ji Nian Tang.

[+ quoththeraven]

I love the sound of Mandarin spoken by western non-native speakers. It makes me want to run out and sign up for a class in Mandarin.

I always got the tones wrong so my daughter gave up on trying to teach me. But grammatically it's very simple.

[+ Avalon]

Most people (if not all) in mainland China call him Sun Zhongshan. His tomb is called Zhongshan Ling. His monument is called Zhongshan Ji Nian Tang.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen_Mausoleum

[Rudynate]

I always got the tones wrong so my daughter gave up on trying to teach me. But grammatically it's very simple.

 

 

I was under the impression that the learning curve was fairly steep.