About regulars

[Floridasexman]

I'm still learning the ropes. Is it a correct assumption most escorts have regulars. And is it a matter of hiring time and time again or should expectations be talked through?

[FTM Zachary Prince]

Yes, most escorts (whose service is worthwhile) have regulars. I guess those who are rip-offs probably don’t.

 

I can’t understand the 2nd half of your post. “Is it a matter of hiring time and time again or should expectations be talked through?” What does this mean??

 

If it means what I think it means, you cannot just “declare” yourself to be a regular and then negotiate the special treatment that you would like to receive as a result. Tons of guys tell us on their very first contact that they plan to become a regular, haggle for discounts or boundary-pushing services, dangle their “regularness” over the escort like a carrot on a string to get him to spend more than the amount of time the client’s actually paid for, and then never book the escort again. Experienced escorts have seen this happen enough times to know that regular status is “earned”, not “declared”.

 

What’s regular to one escort may not be regular at all to another. I have a low volume business model, and I travel a LOT, so my loyal regulars see me once every few months, and have done so for many years. I know many other escorts who don’t consider someone a “regular” unless they meet approximately once a week. Whether you qualify as a regular or not is up to the escort and highly subjective.

[Floridasexman]

Yes, most escorts (whose service is worthwhile) have regulars. I guess those who are rip-offs probably don’t.

 

I can’t understand the 2nd half of your post. “Is it a matter of hiring time and time again or should expectations be talked through?” What does this mean??

 

If it means what I think it means, you cannot just “declare” yourself to be a regular and then negotiate the special treatment that you would like to receive as a result. Tons of guys tell us on their very first contact that they plan to become a regular, haggle for discounts or boundary-pushing services, dangle their “regularness” over the escort like a carrot on a string to get him to spend more than the amount of time the client’s actually paid for, and then never book the escort again. Experienced escorts have seen this happen enough times to know that regular status is “earned”, not “declared”.

 

What’s regular to one escort may not be regular at all to another. I have a low volume business model, and I travel a LOT, so my loyal regulars see me once every few months, and have done so for many years. I know many other escorts who don’t consider someone a “regular” unless they meet approximately once a week. Whether you qualify as a regular or not is up to the escort and highly subjective.

Thanks for your frankness. This is what I needed to hear. I will agree clients who use anything to gain some sort of special monetary treatment are just lowlives. I guess to me a regular would be seeing an escort so client and escort are comfortable enough with each other so each knows the likes and dislikes of the other. So each meeting does not have to have a "learning curve" so to speak. As for the current situation I know the rates of the guy I'm seeing hourly, weekend and would not expect any reductions. If there are any special consideration it will be his suggestion not mine.

[TruHart1]

Although I am a client who does prefer to hire my favorite escorts on a regular basis, I know of many clients who like variety and hardly ever hire an escort more than once, no matter how great they may be. They hire because it gives them the thrill of "new" experiences and for those particular clients, variety in men is what they continuously crave!

 

TruHart1

[marylander1940]

Yes, most escorts (whose service is worthwhile) have regulars. I guess those who are rip-offs probably don’t.

 

I can’t understand the 2nd half of your post. “Is it a matter of hiring time and time again or should expectations be talked through?” What does this mean??

 

If it means what I think it means, you cannot just “declare” yourself to be a regular and then negotiate the special treatment that you would like to receive as a result. Tons of guys tell us on their very first contact that they plan to become a regular, haggle for discounts or boundary-pushing services, dangle their “regularness” over the escort like a carrot on a string to get him to spend more than the amount of time the client’s actually paid for, and then never book the escort again. Experienced escorts have seen this happen enough times to know that regular status is “earned”, not “declared”.

 

What’s regular to one escort may not be regular at all to another. I have a low volume business model, and I travel a LOT, so my loyal regulars see me once every few months, and have done so for many years. I know many other escorts who don’t consider someone a “regular” unless they meet approximately once a week. Whether you qualify as a regular or not is up to the escort and highly subjective.

 

Exactly only time will tell if someone becomes a regular or not or even if the relationship evolves to some kind of friendship.

[Floridasexman]

Thanks guys. I'm learning.

I always give new clients perks as is since I'm not a clock watcher and they stay for longer than what they booked for, but as for regulars they would be my "VIP" and get even more perks, they have stuck by me for awhile and we have gotten comfortable with each other and we are friends in a sense so I definetely don't mind staying way past the time they hire for bc at that point in our "relationship" we enjoy our time together. These regulars continue to see me when they could see anyone else if they wanted too so I appreciate that and they are rewarded just like they reward me it's beneficial to both parties. But just like ftm Zachary said don't force it the best way is just letting it happen naturally and you'll earn your VIP after awhile

Thanks. For a weekend I'm going drop about $6500. That is the hotel, travel, fee, entertainment and meals etc. I just hope things go well for both of us.

[+ VictorPowers]

Yes we have regulars. There are advantages for all involved if there’s an established relationship.

[+ MasssageGuy]

I will agree clients who use anything to gain some sort of special monetary treatment are just lowlives.

Interesting point of view.

 

Here is a quote that we need to live by:

 

[mike carey]

Yes we have regulars. There are advantages for all involved if there’s an established relationship.

I text with Victor regularly (once every six months at least) but I can't seem to be able to arrange anything else. I wonder if 11,000km of ocean has anything to do with it. I think he remembers my name.

[+ Travis69]

Interesting point of view.

 

Here is a quote that we need to live by:

 

I am sorry but that just invites abuse. Each side of the relationship needs to show respect. The customer is also lucky the business exists to serve his needs.

[+ MasssageGuy]

I am sorry but that just invites abuse. Each side of the relationship needs to show respect. The customer is also lucky the business exists to serve his needs.

I don't think it invites abuse at all. Mutual respect is always the case. If the provider does not respect me, I take my business elsewhere. Clients should also be respectful of providers.

 

Pareto's 80/20 rule would tell you that 80% of revenue comes from 20% of clients (i.e. regulars).

[Floridasexman]

I am sorry but that just invites abuse. Each side of the relationship needs to show respect. The customer is also lucky the business exists to serve his needs.

I will wholeheartedly agree. Anybody I am with I have chosen. I show them the same amount of respect I think I deserve. Given the intimacy involved this is no ordinary business transaction. It's not like buying a pair of shoes.

[LJNYC83]

I will wholeheartedly agree. Anybody I am with I have chosen. I show them the same amount of respect I think I deserve. Given the intimacy involved this is no ordinary business transaction. It's not like buying a pair of shoes.

 

Yeah, you can return shoes when they’re too tight...

[+ Travis69]

Mutual respect is always the case.

But that's the problem. Many customers think because they are paying they need not respect the other person. Mutual respect is not always the case. Sometimes "regulars" try to use their power of % of revenue to control the provider. Gandhi's quote sounds like servitude.

[+ Travis69]

Some clients don't become regulars because they aren't allowed back due to abusive behavior. It's the provider's call as to who becomes a regular too. Sometimes the money just isn't worth the aggravation. They aren't allowed in the 20% of customers that make up the 80% of revenue.

[LJNYC83]

Some clients don't become regulars because they aren't allowed back due to abusive behavior. It's the provider's call as to who becomes a regular too. Sometimes the money just isn't worth the aggravation. They aren't allowed in the 20% of customers that make up the 80% of revenue.

 

I agree with this completely. Before I started on RM, I had met a guy who would give me $350 once a week to spend a whole night with him. It started out nicely, but after a few weeks it became a bad scene and was starting to really get to me mentally and emotionally. I had to cut him off. Blocked his number and deleted his contact. I miss the guaranteed $350 every week, but my mental health is worth more.

[+ MasssageGuy]

Sounds like some folks should not be in the business.

[+ Eric Hassan]

In my previous career as an occupational therapist, I spent some time working in a hospital in Brooklyn. I was responsible for the NICU and I led the outpatient department. I would walk in to work and look at my schedule. I would see that I had a few outpatient appointments in the morning, a new baby to evaluate in the NICU, and the some paperwork time and more outpatient work in the afternoon.

 

Inevitably, Mrs. Jones would be late for her 9am appointment because her ride was late picking her up and one of the other clients had a panic attack on the bus. So she was there at 10. It wasn't her fault, and I couldn't justify not providing her with therapy, knowing that she had been up since 5am and had made the journey that was usually only an hour, but today was 2 hours. But someone else had a 10am appointment and they were on time, so I somehow had to see both of them. That meant I ddn't get to see the baby in the NICU until the afternoon, which bit into my paperwork time, and then I'd get to the NICU and the baby would be crashing, so I couldn't see him.

 

I used to get so upset because it wasn't the schedule I had planned on and I would complain over and over that my schedule was all fucked up. Then, suddenly I realized that I was spending all of my time thinking about what I had planned and how it all should go that I missed the fact that my schedule - my actually schedule - wasn't what was written down, but what was happening - in real time, in real life, right then and there.

 

It's the same with escorting. Regulars don't happen because you choose someone you think will make a good regular. It doesn't happen because you discussed it. It happens because it happens. What a "regular" is can vary and there is no standard. Often times, regular arrangements aren't discussed in such frank terms - it just happens. Being present with what's happening is key. Allowing a relationship to grow and flourish and find it's own rhythm is a beautiful thing. You challenge that natural beauty by trying to predict and control and define.

 

I like the quote above (attributed to Gandhi, but really ... I doubt that) because it's a good reminder of the importance of grace and gratitude. It's not an invitation to blindly accept abuse or poor treatment. Being nice doesn't blanketly invite others to use you or treat you poorly and it says something about you as a provider if you're going to argue with being nice.

[mike carey]

Beautifully put.

[TruHart1]

In my previous career as an occupational therapist, I spent some time working in a hospital in Brooklyn. I was responsible for the NICU and I led the outpatient department. I would walk in to work and look at my schedule. I would see that I had a few outpatient appointments in the morning, a new baby to evaluate in the NICU, and the some paperwork time and more outpatient work in the afternoon.

 

Inevitably, Mrs. Jones would be late for her 9am appointment because her ride was late picking her up and one of the other clients had a panic attack on the bus. So she was there at 10. It wasn't her fault, and I couldn't justify not providing her with therapy, knowing that she had been up since 5am and had made the journey that was usually only an hour, but today was 2 hours. But someone else had a 10am appointment and they were on time, so I somehow had to see both of them. That meant I ddn't get to see the baby in the NICU until the afternoon, which bit into my paperwork time, and then I'd get to the NICU and the baby would be crashing, so I couldn't see him.

 

I used to get so upset because it wasn't the schedule I had planned on and I would complain over and over that my schedule was all fucked up. Then, suddenly I realized that I was spending all of my time thinking about what I had planned and how it all should go that I missed the fact that my schedule - my actually schedule - wasn't what was written down, but what was happening - in real time, in real life, right then and there.

 

It's the same with escorting. Regulars don't happen because you choose someone you think will make a good regular. It doesn't happen because you discussed it. It happens because it happens. What a "regular" is can vary and there is no standard. Often times, regular arrangements aren't discussed in such frank terms - it just happens. Being present with what's happening is key. Allowing a relationship to grow and flourish and find it's own rhythm is a beautiful thing. You challenge that natural beauty by trying to predict and control and define.

 

I like the quote above (attributed to Gandhi, but really ... I doubt that) because it's a good reminder of the importance of grace and gratitude. It's not an invitation to blindly accept abuse or poor treatment. Being nice doesn't blanketly invite others to use you or treat you poorly and it says something about you as a provider if you're going to argue with being nice.

Beautifully put.

An impressive concept explained by @Eric Hassan from the viewpoint of a true service provider. I've little doubt that Mr. Hassan has many, many happy regulars due to his positive outlook when it comes to his clients!

 

TruHart1

[myophile]

I like the quote above (attributed to Gandhi, but really ... I doubt that) because it's a good reminder of the importance of grace and gratitude. It's not an invitation to blindly accept abuse or poor treatment. Being nice doesn't blanketly invite others to use you or treat you poorly and it says something about you as a provider if you're going to argue with being nice.

 

The quote has been investigated here: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/08/02/gandhi-customer/, and yeah, almost certainly not by Gandhi.

 

But back to the topic at hand: Eric is exactly right about the “regularization” process, at least as it applies to me. I sort of woke up one morning and realized that I’d been seeing the same guy every 2 or 3 weeks for the past 6 months, and that, without planning it, or discussing it with my provider, I had become a “regular.” In some ways I feel like I’ve been (and am being) groomed for the role. Usually it’s my provider who gets in touch, asks me how I am, sends me a couple of jaw-dropping photos, and the next step is an appointment in our favorite seedy motel. My experience with escorts is limited, but this strikes me as a slightly unusual business model. Of course, I’m sure my guy appreciates the steady income; and for my part, it turns me on when he takes the initiative—so I am more than willing to be groomed!

Edited October 14, 2018 by myophile

[Floridasexman]

The quote has been investigated here: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/08/02/gandhi-customer/, and yeah, almost certainly not by Gandhi.

 

But back to the topic at hand: Eric is exactly right about the “regularization” process, at least as it applies to me. I sort of woke up one morning and realized that I’d been seeing the same guy every 2 or 3 weeks for the past 6 months, and that, without planning it, or discussing it with my provider, I had become a “regular.” In some ways I feel like I’ve been (and am being) groomed for the role. Usually it’s my provider who gets in touch, asks me how I am, sends me a couple of jaw-dropping photos, and the next step is an appointment in our favorite seedy motel. My experience with escorts is limited, but this strikes me as a slightly unusual business model. Of course, I’m sure my guy appreciates the steady income; and for my part, it turns me on when he takes the initiative—so I am more than willing to be groomed!

Thanks. I am going to enjoy our time together

If everything works out I'll book some more time. I too am new to this but I think I found a truly nice man. And he most text me just to ask how I'm doing. Time and my bank account will tell. Lol

[+ MasssageGuy]

it's a good reminder of the importance of grace and gratitude.

Well said!

[+ tassojunior]

Interesting point of view.

 

Here is a quote that we need to live by:

 

 

Obviously Gandhi never said this. It's funny it's ever attributed to him.

 

https://gizmodo.com/7-gandhi-quotes-that-are-totally-fake-1716503435

 

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/08/02/gandhi-customer/

[rvwnsd]

I'm still learning the ropes. Is it a correct assumption most escorts have regulars...

 

It is difficult to believe that there are escorts who do not have regulars, but it is also bad news to make assumptions. It is also bad news to be thinking about being a regular and what that could mean before you even met a guy.

 

...And is it a matter of hiring time and time again or should expectations be talked through?

 

The definition of being a regular client of any service provider is hiring them time and time again. How else can one become a regular?