Emailing vs. Texting

[HotWhiteThirties]

Lol, I suspect that he is not the only person to have added a trip to Las Vegas to their to-do list because certain gentlemen are there!

 

I’m sure you’re correct!!! Considerate, kind, and sincere communication is much appreciated by many of us - and creates repeat opportunities when the connection is there. It’s always refreshing to find those providers who value it as well; it makes the entire interaction very rewarding. At least to me - and hopefully to them as well. I know it may not be of utmost importance to everyone, but I would guess it is to a lot of us out here. Best wishes to Mr. “Hung” and those who seek to provide their services with professionalism and fun!

[HotWhiteThirties]

For me, the operative word here is "client." Good client service would include, IMHO, a willingness to adapt to the means of communication preferred by the client, within reason. Yes, telegram and fax and quill & parchment are out, but both email and text seem reasonable to me. Escorts who won't ever email simply close off a portion of the market for themselves.

 

I always believe in respecting the provider, but I agree with you in spirit. I am in a service industry where clients and customer communications can be in the hundreds each day as well. I receive them through a variety of mechanisms. Do I prefer ones to others, absolutely! Do I ever demand that those potential clients and customers only communicate with me in my desired method?? Absolutely, not! And they never know that it annoys me - they have reached out to me in the way that is comfortable for them. Are some of them wasting time, yes. I guess I consider it an occupational hazard. All within reason, though. Disrespect and hostility - or trying to get something for nothing - is not something anyone can tolerate. That’s understandable.

[MikeBiDude]

This whole thread borders on my “peeve” with my fellow clients. That peeve being clients who expect advertisers to “snap to” all the client’s preferences in the way providers advertise, communicate, setup ad layout, availability, on and on and on.

 

A bit of mutual respect and patience goes a long way

[mike carey]

I’m sure you’re correct!!! Considerate, kind, and sincere communication is much appreciated by many of us - and creates repeat opportunities when the connection is there.

Peter is one of a kind. A couple of years ago I was considering a potential trip to LV for a reunion and was asking in the forum about the city and its opportunities. He didn't know me from Adam but said words to the effect that if things weren't working out call him and he'd make things right. My trip didn't happen but he had been gracious and friendly since then. For me, that's a winning approach.

[TruthBTold]

As a client, I do the original contact by text and discuss the very broad outlines of where the provider is located and then getting together, including rates for the number of hours I am looking for. When there is somewhat of an agreement to get together in the text I tell him that I am going to send him an email in the next couple of days that lists what I like and special needs that I have. Then a couple of days later I list all those things. I ask him to please answer me and that I will assume that he has no objection to what I want unless he lets me know explicitly. I will also let him know that I will expect an answer in 3 to 5 days (I of course will put it in a nice way). If I do not hear from him within that time then I will move on and contact someone else.

[tenderloin]

This whole thread borders on my “peeve” with my fellow clients. That peeve being clients who expect advertisers to “snap to” all the client’s preferences in the way providers advertise, communicate, setup ad layout, availability, on and on and on.

 

A bit of mutual respect and patience goes a long way

 

Completely agree with you regarding respect and patience. I am in client service myself so I very much value those things.

But those who are not willing "to “snap to” all the client’s preferences in the way providers advertise, communicate, setup ad layout, availability, on and on and on" will probably not thrive in their chosen professions.

[HotWhiteThirties]

And the truth is, when a provider is exceedingly difficult to communicate with, or has a lot of rules and barriers for communicating in a way that I am comfortabke initiating contact, I tend to take the view that they have done me a favor as well as themselves in some regards, and saved us both time by sending me the message that we would likely not be a good match.

[+ VictorPowers]

I posted the order of operations of escort Contact here:

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/tristan-baldwin-info.136359/page-3#post-1507692

[+ peterhung85]

Look forward to a future opportunity to connect. Thank you for your thoughtful contributions. I appreciate reading them. Cheers!

Very kind of you and likewise!!!

[+ peterhung85]

Peter is one of a kind. A couple of years ago I was considering a potential trip to LV for a reunion and was asking in the forum about the city and its opportunities. He didn't know me from Adam but said words to the effect that if things weren't working out call him and he'd make things right. My trip didn't happen but he had been gracious and friendly since then. For me, that's a winning approach.

Sorry, I tried to hit 10 likes but it only registered one... maybe I should alert the mods?

[+ poolboy48220]

Simple, text has a certain amount of character limitation and emails don't. Hope this answers your question.

And the keyboard on a computer fits my fingers better than the one on a phone.

[xavier1234]

For me, the operative word here is "client." Good client service would include, IMHO, a willingness to adapt to the means of communication preferred by the client, within reason. Yes, telegram and fax and quill & parchment are out, but both email and text seem reasonable to me. Escorts who won't ever email simply close off a portion of the market for themselves.

I completely agree with you. Obviously, any willingness to accommodate a client has limits, but as long as their clients' way of handling communication is reasonable, I believe it should be respected. Everyone has their comfort level, and this is a field where consternation can be heightened for both the client and the purveyor of services. Keeping a client, especially a possible new client, at ease should be paramount. Putting demands of expected type or types of communication in one's profile, something of which I am seeing more often, only helps to foster a lack of comfort with potential clients. I am confident that once a certain level of trust has been achieved, the majority of clients would be willing to switch to a more agreed upon mode of communication.

[Lchnsf]

I would prefer to send a fax!!!

[Mocha]

It can also be overwhelming trying to keep up with communication systems. We are asked to communicate on phone, text, email, WhatsApp, Skype, Kik, instagram, and the advertising platforms themselves. A provider may just be trying to simplify communication.

 

And there’s also a4a and various hookup apps that clients may want to chat on as well...but I wouldn’t offer 101 ways to communicate, just pick your 3 and optimize communication for those.

 

I’m better at email communication and have hated talking on the phone since I was a teenager. In my experience, talking on the phone hasn’t been great with clients. It feels like people think out loud on the phone, they’re trying to get a gauge of your personality (and I come off better in person and in text) or they’re jacking off and want dirty talk. I do concede often, but if someone prefers to talk on the phone, I like to be prepared with a text or email first.

 

I’m the opposite. I used to talk on the phone for HOURS, and I still miss the days when people actually did spend time talking on the phone. My new beau is Latin but has some southern black swag so he doesn’t mind talking on the phone, but I always find guys I date (not speaking of clients here) who don’t talk on the phone, or get off real quick are usually only about fucking.

 

“We would sit and talk for hours about anything, baby you hang up, no you hang up, on 3 hangup -Tyrese”

 

But now I get that times are different now. Most people don’t have the capacity to sit on the phone for hours. And it’s certainly not something I’d do before meeting a client for the first time. I also like to be prepared with a text or email first, but sometimes I’ll just go ahead and answer. In the past week, I’ve had 2 clients call me straight up, and they turned out to be superb. Whereas, I’ve got 150,000,000,000,000 texts from people...some of who see my ad and have BARE MINIMUM in it that warrants me a response. It’s almost like they didn’t even read my ad. They just saw pictures, seen a number, and assumed I was available.

 

I also have a thing where if someone texts me, they must provide name, age, stats. It just boggles my mind why some people feel it’s appropiate to just text someone out the blue, ask them to come over or they come over...and not have an inking of who they are, whether they’re even male or female, 20 years old or 60 years old. Just nothing. Some don’t bother responding, but I say if it’s an issue...just call. I can usually grasp who I’m talking to by voice alone.

[LookingAround]

Simple, text has a certain amount of character limitation and emails don't. Hope this answers your question.

Not really. I’ve never been limited by text. If one text ends it continues to another text. Maybe you’re thinking of Twitter.

Edited August 1, 2018 by LookingAround

[+ peterhung85]

Not really. I’ve never been limited by text. If one text ends it continues to another text. Maybe you’re thinking of Twitter.

No, I am not.

[LookingAround]

No, I am not.

Whatever works for you.

[+ jeezopete]

I have found that strictly keeping all contact via telegram has been effective. Truly an underrated form of communication.

Hey Victor, telegrams are so old school…how about you communicate through strip-o-gram? Gotta keep up with the times, kid.

[bostonman]

Not really. I’ve never been limited by text. If one text ends it continues to another text. Maybe you’re thinking of Twitter.

 

I think that for most people, texting is easier done in short bits of conversation - you're not being expected to write in any real detail. It's great for a quick or last-minute note (giving a heads-up to my colleagues that I'm going to be late, or a quick check-in about something with a friend, etc), but if I actually want to CONVERSE with someone, I'd rather have the freedom of typing emails on the full-sized keys at my desktop, etc. Yes, it's possible to have a full conversation through text, but I find it a bit more of an effort to do so.

 

In initiating a talk with an escort, I find texting is generally about "wassup? Rate is $250 R U into it?" - which may get the basics out but it's rather impersonal - whereas with email I feel freer to spread out a bit and actually ask questions about activities, discuss what I'd like, and maybe even gab a little, which always helps make it feel like we're going to have a more friendly time together.

 

That said, there are people who email in the same laconic way that they text, lol - but what I'm trying to say is that I think the format of email can invite a more thorough conversation.

[Nvr2Thick]

[Wolfer]

My most preferred method is Whatsapp as you can have your texts be as long as you like (like an email) and can receive media (pictures, video) all in the same app. Also, Whatsapp has no costs when texting to a foreign number.

 

I see more and more escort profiles saying to text or Whatsapp them rather than email. That they'll be quicker to reach that way.

 

The other day I saw a profile stating to only CALL or email, aboslutely NO texts! I found that a bit odd.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

It can also be overwhelming trying to keep up with communication systems. We are asked to communicate on phone, text, email, WhatsApp, Skype, Kik, instagram, and the advertising platforms themselves. A provider may just be trying to simplify communication.

 

THIS! I advertise on half a dozen different escort platforms. I have multiple other streams of income besides escorting, which also involve communication. I do not have a receptionist or an assistant to check my “email” (note: internal messaging, not actually email) on every single website where I advertise. I absolutely insist that all of my appointment requests (from NEW clients) must come streamlined through one form of contact. I do not have time, when I need to double check what is the address for the Outcall, to search through my email, Twitter DMs, rentmen messages, and text inbox trying to figure out which platform my client used to send it to me. All the information in one place is a MUST for me. I receive dozens of messages every single day and I need all the serious inquiries in one place or I simply cannot keep track of them. Most escorts who insist on one particular form of contact probably feel the same. I think most clients have no idea how overwhelming it is to deal with dozens of inquiries a day, the majority of which are just jerkoffs looking for free attention, and then to also try to keep track of where your serious inquiries are spread across multiple methods of contact.

 

Plus tons of time wasters like to DM on every single platform with no intention of booking. It takes a lot more effort to open my website, read my booking requirements, and come correctly with a detailed appointment request by email than it does to send a DM on this forum, rentmen, twitter, or any of the other numberous sites where I advertise. I want to see my potential clients jumping thru a hoop or two to prove to me that they are serious about booking me before I dedicate my valuable time to responding. I’m not the type of escort that people book out of CONVENIENCE, hence stressing myself out to keep maximum forms of contact available to accept bookings is NOT a priority for me. The clients who end up as my long-term, repeat clients generally find something unique about me that makes them willing to jump through a hoop or two in order to meet me. That is who I choose to focus my attention on servicing. If someone is ready to move on to the next escort because I don’t accept appointments by text message, then so be it. I will wait for the client who is happy to adhere to my preferences because he respects that I have booking policies for a good reason.

[+ Keith30309]

Telegram Says to Cooperate in Terror Probes, Except in Russia

I’ve started using ProtonMail and been looking at Telegram for secure texting. This doesn’t change my mind but it demonstrates that any promises of privacy are only as good as the word of the provider and subject to change.

Link

T he Telegram encrypted messenger app said Tuesday said it would cooperate with investigators in terror probes when ordered by courts, except in Russia where it is locked in an ongoing battle with authorities.

 

The company founded by Russian Pavel Durov has refused to provide authorities in the country with a way to read its communications and was banned by a Moscow court in April as a result.

 

But in its updated privacy settings, Telegram said it would disclose its users' data to "the relevant authorities" elsewhere if it receives a court order to do so, although not in Russia.

 

"If Telegram receives a court order that confirms you're a terror suspect, we may disclose your IP address and phone number to the relevant authorities," Telegram's new privacy settings said.

 

"So far, this has never happened. When it does, we will include it in a semiannual transparency report," the app addefd.

@tylerthebadwolf may have some interest

[+ Eric Hassan]

I have noticed a trend of escorts asking to be texted via phone as opposed to the email service rentmen provides. I find myself bothered by that. As much as escorts want to keep a certain amount of privacy, so do I. For me that comes in terms of emails versus texting. I'm not a big fan of giving out my phone number in order to start the conversation for booking time with an escort. I at least like to feel that there is a mutual agreement to meet before I feel comfortable texting. The thing that I find odd is that it takes so little effort to open one's email on rentmen. I don't understand why it is apparently so much more inconvenient to then to do that versus texting. I understand they can't get an alert when I email, but I rarely try to set up anything that last minute to where I feel like I am being unreasonable. Am I being silly or reasonably prudent to prefer emailing at first with the understanding that I'm not expecting an answer within 5 minutes.

 

Thanks.

 

It might seem easy to you to just open the RM email but it doesn't always work that way on our end. I get hundreds of messages a day - all over social media, text messages, etc - from friends, family, clients, etc. The RM system is slow and if I get emails pushed to my personal email, they can arrive 20 minutes to 2 days later. It's really not convenient, and personally, I am going to follow up with text messages before emails.

 

That being said, I think it's entirely reasonable to prefer email first - for exactly the reasons you stated: a way to establish if you're even going to have an appointment. One thing that you did state is that you don't expect an immediate response and you don't use email to set up something last minute - that's very helpful and thoughtful on your part. What I think you do, and would like others to consider is getting right to the point - tell me you're interested in meeting, and what day/time you are thinking. Too often email content goes back and forth 5 or more times just trying to get to that point, and it's incredibly frustrating to email over several days to find out that he's looking for a day when I'm not even in town.

 

Thanks for letting me use your post as a PSA.

[+ IronMaus]

RM messaging is faulty which can lead to problems. Having multiple places to check messages is another variable that can lead to problems or mistakes.

A phone number is personal and I've worked hard to build a reputation of trust and accommodation so that people should have less reservations about sharing theirs. That being said, what you say first matters more than how its delivered...

 

If the first message is a text stating "hey man, very nice" (happens several times a day) I assume that person is not serious and would like to determine this quickly. Although we use our phone for both text and email, with texts we expect quicker responses from each other. So if I respond to "very nice" guy and he doesn't get back to me soon, I can quickly cross him off my list. Although it probably wasn't his intention, that guy did me a favor texting me with his silly message rather than emailing me.

 

If the first message is an email stating "I've enjoyed your reviews on DR" (and/or name with desires and dates length of time), I'm already at ease and comfortably continue the conversation there. But most clients don't communicate on that level so my preferences stem from my interaction them - not you guys.