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I want to see candid pics of everyone in this thread who are being judgemental. 
I'm sure you're all in fine form. 
... I'll wait. 

I think all the pictures of the man being discussed in this thread are very hot.   Sometimes I think, we as Forum members, tend to be a bit judgmental and “pissy” when it comes to critiquing others.  
Two things I noticed in the picture of the man in his 40s.  First, he’s wearing a wedding band.  Secondly, he’s still pretty damn hot.  

Really? @xyz48B 
Stop with the victim card.  With hundreds and thousands of other escorts out there who would gladly take your cash — why are you self-loathing and wasting energy on this one escort in particular?  Does he remind you specifics of a boy you had your sights set on from your youth?  Just move on from him.  He obviously doesn’t want or need the business.  
 
As any other savvy consumers would do — move on and ask someone else.  You’re wasting your time and good energy; not to mention reaching for the opinion of various clients on here who are a vast diverse group of personalities who are so different, you will never achieve a unanimous vote of approval for how you should or should not have approached this situation.  
Personally I don’t believe there is a right or wrong way to ask for the services of an escort or masseur.  I ask, lay out a specific — if they respond, they respond.  If they don’t respond I chock it up to them not wanting the business and find someone else.  It’s not worth my time and energy letting them have free rent in my head as to why they didn’t respond.  Not everyone thinks alike.  
 
In the end we receive what we project out to the universe.  If you want your Grindr or Rent.men experiences you start off bad then you’ll attract that.  
 
But don’t ever let someone steal your energy over a one worded response.  It is not worth your time!  

As for me on my site:  All Ages/Body Types "Sizes"  / Race Welcome"
Lucky for me.. its works no problem(s) soo far..

That was not stated in the original post. The single text exchange used as an example of poor communication was back pedaling from ridiculous statements, arguments and comparisons to escorting. It indicated an absurd yet common mentality when hiring among clients. I'm not going to quote the original post a third time for you. You know full well the mentality expressed when comparing escorting to service at a bakery and complaining about guys being as selective on RM as they are on grindr. It was pure entitlement that often goes way too unchecked on here. The divergence to the single text exchange then was met with alternative ways of viewing why a provider might be standoffish or disengaged in responding. This was met with a lack of introspection and lack of consideration of alternative ways of going about things. As stated twice before, you have two options: continue the same approach and wonder why you're dissatisfied or try a different approach with a better fuller perspective. If you have a third option on the part of clients, then provide it. The majority of escorts last one to two years in the industry max. Less than 25% last more than five years according to a 2016 study that compared demographics of escorts on Rentboy versus Craigslist. This is a turn over rate worse than inner city teachers and nurses.  Being highly selective is how one lasts longterm in this business. Otherwise a provider will burn themselves out the first or second year on the most taxing of clients (who often feel they can treat you like a cashier at a bakery or who go all Karen if you don't respond with paragraphs to their paragraphs of questions). Many escorts get several inquiries a day, with very few inquiries serious and following through. Many providers will have neither the time or energy to write an essay to each one. If I didn't start to filter out the nonsensical and entitled, I would have not made it past my second year. One can find lots of complaints on here about the pool of providers to chose from, yet little is suggested on the part of clients to lessen such a terrible retention rate and improve the labor market. When alternative perspectives are offered, they're met with contempt and hostility because it suggests that the other end of the transaction has more decision-making and bargaining power than originally presumed on the part of entitled clients. If you want better escorts, the way to go isn't petulant complaining and worse working conditions. Seems like common sense. Taking in a diverse set of input from various perspectives and altering the ways one approaches providers seems a better way forward than the other option which is a dead end. 

An observation that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. People aren't allowed to join this site? You're just looking for a way to discredit what has been argued by accusing me of being someone else because you can't offer any other substantive response. Good luck to you both. 

My two cents (For whatever it’s worth…)
You point out a straight offer of a wanted BFE, then tell him you want a [dominant] top and wrap up with asking for a price estimate.  Not a provider here, just another paying client; but, I wouldn’t know how to respond either.  
Perhaps being more concise about what you expect out of three days.  Nights out doing what? The entire weekend fucking? Out of town trip? Daytime excursions?  Does he get some off time within 72-hours?  
He know zero about you.  If you’re in town, our of town, a description of what you look like.  If he’s a young escort starting out he may not know to ask these thing so you need to take the lead.  I think it is much easier to ask for longer periods of time with someone you’ve met and been with rather than ask this of someone new and new to the profession.

The problem is you contacted someone who doesn’t know anything at all about you & asked him for a 3 day BFE. Who in their right mind would commit to a 3 day BFE with someone they never met before, have  no idea what they look like or what type of personality they have? For all he knows you could be Jabba the Hut or Hannibal Lechter. Maybe the next time you should a try to arrange a 1 or 2 hour “BFE’ before you ask a complete stranger for a 3 day BFE weekend. 

I recently took the plunge with him. I am fairly new to hiring providers, but this was BY FAR the worst experience I have had. The sad part is that he brags so much about his experience and being so well traveled, and yet none of that translates where it should. 
I should def pay more attention to the comments here on M4M... 

I recently took the plunge with him. I am fairly new to hiring providers, but this was BY FAR the worst experience I have had. The sad part is that he brags so much about his experience and being so well traveled, and yet none of that translates where it should. 
I should def pay more attention to the comments here on M4M... 

Hey guys. I recently moved to the US from Europe, so still getting my head around how things work in the US. While living here, I discovered RentMasseur and MasseurFinder, and have been booking sessions with providers coming to my town (some really good, some quite disappointing...). The massage context is easy, as you arrive, you chat a little bit, you take your clothes off and lie down on the bed/massage table. If something happens, it arises naturally from the massage itself. But now I want to hire men just for the sex part, so unsure how does one proceed with that. 
How does it usually work with RentMen providers in the US? Do you agree beforehand what will happen? Do you discuss on arrival? Or you just see as things develop while on it? Since I am quite new with the the transactional nature of these kind of encounters (and also a bit shy), not sure what's the best way to make an encounter just for sex less awkward at the start. 
Also, I would appreciate some advice as to how to arrange a meeting. What do providers want to hear from clients, other than the requested date and time? Is it rude to ask for the rate in the first message (RentMen does not show that, unlike RentMasseur)? Should I mention my stats (age, height, weight, etc)? 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 

Hello from the other side. I feel famous 🙂
Thank you baby 

That's Danny--he's a member of the forum, and a long-time masseur.
Search for his MF number:  https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/4644/
 

"Dear Mom,
 
I paid the most dreamy guy for sex today..."
 
If I'm ever looking to inherit quickly, I know what to send to my mother.

Just spent time with him. He's just as handsome on the pics with those gorgeous eyes. Lean and trim. Pics of everything else is accurate. 😉. He was pleasant enough to accommodate me right after his trip from Miami. Very satisfied and happy with our meeting. Communicative. 

I don’t need to look at one second of this video. I can tell by looking at the screen shot that I would never even consider him to be “so special” or $600 an hour. 

Think it just all depends on what the two parties agree on. Some talk before hand on what’s expected sexually, rate, interests, etc; I usually talk to clients prior to meeting. An experienced provider also will always make you feel comfortable. Just have fun 😘

Hey guys. I recently moved to the US from Europe, so still getting my head around how things work in the US. While living here, I discovered RentMasseur and MasseurFinder, and have been booking sessions with providers coming to my town (some really good, some quite disappointing...). The massage context is easy, as you arrive, you chat a little bit, you take your clothes off and lie down on the bed/massage table. If something happens, it arises naturally from the massage itself. But now I want to hire men just for the sex part, so unsure how does one proceed with that. 
How does it usually work with RentMen providers in the US? Do you agree beforehand what will happen? Do you discuss on arrival? Or you just see as things develop while on it? Since I am quite new with the the transactional nature of these kind of encounters (and also a bit shy), not sure what's the best way to make an encounter just for sex less awkward at the start. 
Also, I would appreciate some advice as to how to arrange a meeting. What do providers want to hear from clients, other than the requested date and time? Is it rude to ask for the rate in the first message (RentMen does not show that, unlike RentMasseur)? Should I mention my stats (age, height, weight, etc)? 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 

Excellent advice, thanks!! 

some sage newbie last year posted a thread about a similar topic:
 

You can find out through reviews and such if what the escort likes is what you like.  Then, when you message him, tell him what you are interested in; he'll say, "me too!" or "not me!" or say nothing, and by then you've done all the pre-arranging you can do.  Then when you meet, assuming you've chosen an experienced escort and made it clear you're inexperience, he'll take the lead.
Good luck, Have fun!
 

Hey guys. I recently moved to the US from Europe, so still getting my head around how things work in the US. While living here, I discovered RentMasseur and MasseurFinder, and have been booking sessions with providers coming to my town (some really good, some quite disappointing...). The massage context is easy, as you arrive, you chat a little bit, you take your clothes off and lie down on the bed/massage table. If something happens, it arises naturally from the massage itself. But now I want to hire men just for the sex part, so unsure how does one proceed with that. 
How does it usually work with RentMen providers in the US? Do you agree beforehand what will happen? Do you discuss on arrival? Or you just see as things develop while on it? Since I am quite new with the the transactional nature of these kind of encounters (and also a bit shy), not sure what's the best way to make an encounter just for sex less awkward at the start. 
Also, I would appreciate some advice as to how to arrange a meeting. What do providers want to hear from clients, other than the requested date and time? Is it rude to ask for the rate in the first message (RentMen does not show that, unlike RentMasseur)? Should I mention my stats (age, height, weight, etc)? 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 

Hating on your weight, or your appearance in general, whether from yourself or from others, does not help you to change. I did not lose weight or start getting in shape until I learned to love my body the way it was. People don’t usually make positive change from negative motivation.  

Stay away from this man. He does not look like in the photos. Pictures are either outdated or manipulated. The height is incorrect too (he is more like 5'8 to 5'9 at the tallest). I also believe that at least one or two of the photos in his current profile doesn't belong to him. Not only that, this man is extremely hostile. A guy I know met him at a hotel and he (the scort) treated him like a piece of crap for not wanting to engage in what he was demanding cursing and kicking him out and everything. My friend was too nice because if something like that happen to me I would have called the cops on him. You don't do stuff like that. If you hook up with someone you do what both agree. Hopefully nothing got physical.
Btw, he used to post under another name and had some more pictures. The dude is not as attractive in person face-wise neither. Again, the pics are deceiving.