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    HoleTrainer reacted to shawshini in Overweight clients   
    Update: had my first meeting and it was fantastic. Incredibly grateful to this forum and all the posters!
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from TorontoTwink in Where do you get most of your clients from?   
    I get almost all of my new clients from Rentmen right now, but it’s also the only paid ad that I’m currently running.  I do occasionally get a new client from Recon... although it’s a bit rare for it to happen, I’ve also noticed that all of them turned into solid regulars.
    I’ve gotten clients off grindr in the past.  When they delete(d) my profiles, I just make/made a new one with a new email address.  I often use(d) the exact same headline and photo as all of my previous profiles so that whoever had been chatting with me previously would be able to find me again pretty easily.  For some reason grindr never IP-banned me, so I was able to continuously do this account cycling for some period of time when I was getting clients off of there.
    I’ve seriously considered posting on RentMasseur since my service is very similar to a massage in vibe and isn’t full service.  However I’m about as busy as I can handle right now between my regular clients and RentMen.  I’ll probably pop an ad on there and give it a try once business hits a lull, which it is bound to eventually.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Jamie21 in Do you Charge More for Special Requests?   
    It’s the low cost airline pricing model. You want a designated seat? That’s extra. You want hold baggage? That’s extra. You want a crappy sandwich? That’s extra....
    Those airlines are cheap for a reason. Fly with a decent airline if you want full service. Same applies with providers. 
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + BenjaminNicholas in It’s just How I do things   
    This is excellent advice.
    Hooboy used to tell me a variation of this when I first got into the business:  'Benjamin, you know you're doing something right when they start to throw rocks.  Just learn to smile wide and move on.  Don't give them power and don't give them your energy.  Move forward.'
    It's pie-in-the-sky to say we can live without worry of being constantly judged. 
    The real trick is to learn who's important enough in our life to give that power to.
     
    THANK YOU FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Bargara Leatherboy in Overweight clients   
    As someone who has been large most of his life, I had a period where I walked a lot and swam a lot and was very trim, but that did not last.
     
    I feel good about myself , self love is important, but I also am smart enough to know its not attractive to some, and of course there are the health issues.
     
    The heaviest I got to was 320 pounds and currently i am slowly loosing and at 275 today.
     
    When i see a new provider I always send a description, in a email or text message,  “I am a 60 year blonde bear 275 pounds looking for …..”  and take it from there.
     
    If someone says does not work for me  - I thank them for the honesty and move on.
     
    I have a couple of great providers who make me feel great, and we have a fun time exploring pleasure.
     
    I could go to a bathhouse, pay my $25 and wander around all night, maybe get lucky, maybe get rejected, maybe end up in a cubicle giving myself a hand job.
     
    Or I could spend $300-$600 with a provider and have a wonder couple of hours .
     
    A lesson there for providers who are looking to improve their business.
     
    I reflect back on an evening i spent in a gay B&B which was closing optional.  I spent a couple of nights there, the middle night I was the only guest, the owners were out of town and they had a guy in who was looking after the place and me.
    We had chatted briefly when he arrived, i did not take much notice, i was swimming and sunbathing naked, had a walk on the property and a swim in the river that passed thru their property, i had a long relaxing outdoor shower, and thought nothing of it.
    I went into town in the late afternoon, had a walk on the beach and some dinner.
    When I returned the host offered me a glass of wine, and wanted to see a pic of my husband, so i grabbed my iPad and found one, he came and sat very close to me while looking at the pics.  He then suggested a moonlight swim.
    I dived in first, he joined me and of course he was very handsy.
    We had a fun night, drank some wine, soaked in the hot tub, played, I particularly remember bending over the balcony as he ate my ass out.
    he told me that what attracted him to me, was the way I just showered that afternoon without any self consciousness.
     
    The really professional providers will see past your excess weight and will discover your inner sexiness and enjoy you as a sexual being and an interesting person
     
     
     
     
     
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Kevin Slater in Overweight clients   
    Any provider worth his salt should be happy to see you, but it never hurts to briefly describe yourself beforehand, especially if it will make you feel more comfortable during the session.
    Kevin Slater
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Jamie21 in Where do you get most of your clients from?   
    I get some from clients googling for sensual/erotic massage and finding my website; sensualtouchco.com.
    I get around 20k visitors a year to it and it’s growing. I’ve got videos on there, frequently asked questions, my location etc so that they can see what’s on offer and I don’t have to answer too many questions.
    I think it gives clients confidence I’m professional about things and it’s a great way to promote yourself. I’d definitely recommend setting up a website if you are currently just relying on advertising platforms. 
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    HoleTrainer reacted to FrancisCA in Where do you get most of your clients from?   
    I would say that 90% of my escort clients come from Rentmen

    The other 10% is a mixture of Mintboys, Friendboy, Grindr or Scruff (which I dont even advertise at all) But my HIGHEST payed gigs came from Friendboy! 

    Seeking arrangements wouldnt take my profile idk why...

    But if we were talking about Massages it would be 50/50 with Grindr and RentMasseur since I was living in a city with a lot of travelers.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Jamie21 in What is a request you had to decline?   
    I had a client who wanted to be tickled. For the whole session. I just tickled him all over.
     
    It was ok at first, I thought he’d tire of it and want sex but no…he asked for more tickling each time I tried to get more erotic or do some traditional massage. “Tickle me more” he’d ask. I’d tied him to the table just by his wrists and ankles so he couldn’t resist, which was his request. 

    If I’m doing a firm massage or I’m fucking for ages I’ve usually got the stamina but tickling a guy is something else! I got really tired in my hands and forearms. The tickling became less and less vigorous. 

    I was kind of hoping he’d cum from the tickling, which would have been intriguing to see. However, although he got hard (and I kept stroking his cock every so often) it was basically the only part of his body that wasn’t ticklish and he didn’t seem to want touched. 
    Our time ended and he’d not cum (nor had I but that’s not unusual) so I asked him if he was happy and he said it was fantastic. My hands were so tired I could barely undo the knots to release his binding. 

    It’s definitely a request I wish I’d declined because it’s not really my thing. Either that or I’ll double my rate. 
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + tassojunior in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    We're at a point right now where demand, choices, and pricing are all over the board because of the pandemic and lockdown. It won't settle back exactly as it was. 
    Reno Gold makes $100K a month on OnlyFans and J_rod makes $20K a month on Chaterbate just leaving his cam on all day and chatting to lonely guys while he plays video games in his clothes. Neither has sex. And there are plenty of massuers online who just give amatuer non-sex massages. It's amazing there's so many guys who haven't latched onto the digital or fantasy obsessive hustles and still do "the deed". $300 is peanuts for anyone with imagination. That, roaring inflation and the enormous number of new millionaires make sex more expensive. I don't advise any of my guys to go that digital route I guess because I'm selfish. But yes, rates have gone up. A lot of ordinary clients have saved up a lot of money during the lockdown and are blowing it (!) as fast as possible now just as much of the supply has gone to digital pastures or otherwise not been on the market. It may land back like it was, or it may not. My guess is higher rates. 
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    HoleTrainer reacted to BSR in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    Apparently you & I view the escort-client relationship very differently.  I'm a bit baffled by your statement "It is personal."  How?  The escort provides a service; the client pays him for that service.  Granted, the escort provides physical intimacy and sometimes sessions involve emotional intimacy as well, but in the end, if you're paying for the escort's services, it's business.  It was nice of the OP to help the escort out with his grad school essays, but unless the OP stated up front he expected compensation for his help, then all the escort owes him is a heartfelt thank you.
    Greed?  If an employee quits his old job to take a higher-paying job elsewhere, is that greed?  To me, that's just being smart and knowing your worth.  My old boss can call me greedy all he wants, I'm still taking the higher pay.  I would expect anyone in any line of work to do the same, including escorts.  As for naivete, the escort is naive only if he's not getting enough business at the higher rate.  The OP mentioned that he thinks a few clients are paying the higher rate.  If "a few" is enough for the escort, I would say the escort is a smart businessman.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to BSR in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    I don't understand why loyal, longtime clients feel that they should be grandfathered in at the old rate.  Businesses increase their prices all the time.  As a regular, longtime customer at some places, I can't say that I'm happy about the increases, but I don't expect the business to make an exception for me either.
    As for this escort's "inflated" rate, his recent rate increase is only "inflated" if not enough clients are willing to pay it.  If he's getting the amount of business he wants at the higher rate, then it's not inflated -- it's right for the market.  If he's not getting enough business, then he'll (hopefully) figure it out & adjust accordingly. 
    In either case, decide for yourself if he's worth the higher rate, or not.  If indeed your area has plenty of other providers who charge less, find one or a few you like & move on.  It's just business.  When a client expects an exception to be made for him because of past history or a nice off-the-clock relationship, he's making it personal.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + tassojunior in Jake Ryan Straight 9" $1,500/hr   
    LOL someone please forward these to the multiple strangers who went into an absolute rage over text/messenger this week when I quoted my rates to them 😂
    In all seriousness, this escort(/agency) is smart tho and I bet he does very well.
    The truth is that some percentage of clients doesn’t care about the price tag at all.  And will readily pay almost anything you ask for.  Yes including $1500.  I’ve had clients of means *voluntarily* send me $1500 at once just for talking to them.  Or send me $500 out of the blue when we aren’t even talking.  And besides them, an even larger percentage of the population has the means to save up for something if/when they truly want it.  The $1-2K price tag on an iPhone doesn’t stop hourly workers from buying them, for example.  People figure out how to make something work financially if they want it badly enough.
    One man’s ‘meh’ is another man’s “GOTTA HAVE IT!”  Never underestimate the power of having a specific niche 😎
     
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Luv2play in Jake Ryan Straight 9" $1,500/hr   
    LOL someone please forward these to the multiple strangers who went into an absolute rage over text/messenger this week when I quoted my rates to them 😂
    In all seriousness, this escort(/agency) is smart tho and I bet he does very well.
    The truth is that some percentage of clients doesn’t care about the price tag at all.  And will readily pay almost anything you ask for.  Yes including $1500.  I’ve had clients of means *voluntarily* send me $1500 at once just for talking to them.  Or send me $500 out of the blue when we aren’t even talking.  And besides them, an even larger percentage of the population has the means to save up for something if/when they truly want it.  The $1-2K price tag on an iPhone doesn’t stop hourly workers from buying them, for example.  People figure out how to make something work financially if they want it badly enough.
    One man’s ‘meh’ is another man’s “GOTTA HAVE IT!”  Never underestimate the power of having a specific niche 😎
     
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Isrhunter in SPANKING!! ? ?   
    I'm surprised by this. Spanking is such a common fetish that you'd think it would be reasonably easy to find someone who would accommodate!
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Bargara Leatherboy in SPANKING!! ? ?   
    One of my clients asked me for a spanking just the other day and I gave him a good long one, first with a slow warmup and later with hard slaps that made him yelp! I loved grabbing his head by the back of his hair and holding him down by the small of his back while I did it. His ass had a beautiful warm cherry glow by the end. I don't explicitly advertise spanking and haven't done much over the last decade, but I was into it as an 18-20 year old, so I still remember how to give a good one.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Philoxera in SPANKING!! ? ?   
    One of my clients asked me for a spanking just the other day and I gave him a good long one, first with a slow warmup and later with hard slaps that made him yelp! I loved grabbing his head by the back of his hair and holding him down by the small of his back while I did it. His ass had a beautiful warm cherry glow by the end. I don't explicitly advertise spanking and haven't done much over the last decade, but I was into it as an 18-20 year old, so I still remember how to give a good one.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from RuffLeatherPig in Anyone investing in this Crypto?   
    Apologies for the provocative title, but this article is a fascinating and valuable read...
    https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/check-your-financial-privilege
     
    "While Western headlines focus on Coinbase going public, Tesla buying billions of dollars’ worth of Bitcoin and tech bros getting fabulously rich, there is a quiet revolution happening worldwide. Until now, governments and corporations have controlled the rules of money. That is changing.
     
    "To learn more, the author spoke to Bitcoin users in Sudan, Nigeria and Ethiopia, three countries with a combined population of 366 million, well in excess of the number of individuals living in the United States."
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from CalTec in Anyone investing in this Crypto?   
    Apologies for the provocative title, but this article is a fascinating and valuable read...
    https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/check-your-financial-privilege
     
    "While Western headlines focus on Coinbase going public, Tesla buying billions of dollars’ worth of Bitcoin and tech bros getting fabulously rich, there is a quiet revolution happening worldwide. Until now, governments and corporations have controlled the rules of money. That is changing.
     
    "To learn more, the author spoke to Bitcoin users in Sudan, Nigeria and Ethiopia, three countries with a combined population of 366 million, well in excess of the number of individuals living in the United States."
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + BenjaminNicholas in Tipping Etiquette   
    The only other thing I'll say about this topic is this...
     
    Some of you are comparing apples to assholes: Escorts may make as much as doctors or lawyers, but make no mistake, the level of intimacy and overall experience is nowhere near the same.
     
    Bottom line, I'm neither here nor there about tipping. As a client, you do what makes you comfortable.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + tassojunior in Anyone investing in this Crypto?   
    Y'all are a little behind the times with your objections to crypto. These are arguments that held water just a few years ago, but are irrelevant today. The institutional adaptation of crypto means that it is here to stay. It is simply new technology that y'all do not understand. Spend some time researching seriously TODAY and you will see what I mean. Some of you seem like you haven't thought critically about this topic since 2018.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Lucky in Are you a morning person?   
    I'm usually up or awake at 6am. Lay around in bed til 7 if I'm having an especially lazy morning. Extended alone time in the morning is my jam. I love to drink tea, listen to music, clean my house, update my ads/profiles, schedule appointments, research something new, read a book, listen to a podcast, or plan a trip in the early morning hours. They are my most productive hours, and I love to spend them with myself and organizing my affairs. I'm not usually great at being social with other people super early in the mornings, but I can arrange to turn it on early with advance notice since I'm always awake early anyway. My ideal meeting times are like 10am-6pm. After 6pm I generally wanna eat dinner and go to bed by like 9pm. Again, I can arrange to keep myself turned on and ready to stretch holes until later in the evening with advance notice. But when guys text me at 9:30pm asking me if I'll come over at 11... no, sorry hon. No can do. Daddy needs his sleep!!
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Shawn Monroe in Tipping Etiquette   
    Wow, being an owner of my own business, I can't really wrap my head around the idea that you don't tip the owner of an establishment. I got a 20 minute neck massage yesterday. I think the guy who gave it to me was actually the owner of the establishment (not sure- just a vibe I got). Everyone else was busy with a massage already, but they squeezed me in because I told them I had pulled a muscle and would appreciate ANY amount of attention to my neck. He only charged me $20 for that 20 minute massage, which was actually fantastic and did so much to provide me with a bit of relief until I could get a real massage scheduled. I tipped him another $20 on top of the massage price even tho I thought he was the owner. Why would I not tip just because he is the owner? A tip says- "I really appreciate your work- I understand you are charging market rate for this community but I think you deserve more and can afford to give it to you- Thank you for going above & beyond to accomodate me."
     
    I completely understand if someone needs to save carefully to afford an escort's rate, or lives on a fixed income and already has to stretch their budget to hire, that they might not be able to afford to tip, btw. I don't expect tips for my work. But I don't undertand the sentiment of not tipping a business owner. Business owners usually put in tons of extra work behind the scenes that they don't get compensated for and if you have a truly exceptional experience at their hands, they are often responsible for making it possible in every possible way, with countless unpaid hours. The massage parlor owner may be an extra $20K in debt right now due to pandemic closures. Of course I'm going to tip because he did a great job and I can!
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Daniel84 in What is the biggest accomplishment you achieved this year   
    We all know 2020 sucked but what’s the best thing you were able to get accomplished or the best thing that has happened to you?
     
    I’ll go first, I have been photographing people for a few years. I always had to work out of my home. Two days ago I closed on my first commercial lease. I now have a Modern Portrait Studio in Greenpoint.
     
    Covid destroyed my businesses and my savings; But when life gives you lemons I choose to make lemonade. Covid also taught me how to be a better friend and have a life.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Islesguy in Tipping Etiquette   
    No one is saying you shouldn't tip an owner of a business if you want. In the situation you presented even I would tip him. He squeezed you in on an emergency basis and charged what I am guessing is the standard rate. That's above and beyond in my book.
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