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and others will take advantage of that so they don't have to do the work.

It's mostly because of hair loss. A big side effect of the...supplements they take to get all those muscles is that it thins their hairline hence the cap 24/7.

I’d rather have a red bull instead 😂

I remember telling him that I understood and if he wasn’t feeling it it wasn’t a problem I can pay for a therapeutic rate and he doubled down “I am also bringing my ENERGY to this and my ENERGY is what you’re paying. You are being reductionist by making it about sex and money”
I had never met a worker in this business that wasn’t comfortable talking about business like him.  

I remember telling him that I understood and if he wasn’t feeling it it wasn’t a problem I can pay for a therapeutic rate and he doubled down “I am also bringing my ENERGY to this and my ENERGY is what you’re paying. You are being reductionist by making it about sex and money”
I had never met a worker in this business that wasn’t comfortable talking about business like him.  

Haha I kinda have a "tier" system:
Hookup with Benefits: 1hr bookings usually from people new or visiting town.
Friends with Extra Benefits: 2hr+ bookings with guys I've had good fun/chemistry with. About 3 guys on rotation.
Boyfriend with Benefits: 3+hrs, overnights, travel. Keep 1 guy usually and is sort of the one I move my calendar around, fly around, travel, etc.
 
Recently "broke up" with my latest BWB after almost two years as he was not performing as well as he used to. So been testing the waters around.

It's funny I've been noticing a lot of guys on Rent.men who open their ads by saying they give great massages. Feels like mission drift. 🤭
In general, I'm as direct as I can be without offending. I say I want an "erotic" massage - even though that's not an option on Rentmasseur anymore. Then I try to assess what is being offered. If I suspect they're offering less than I want, I move on. 
THIS annoys me. Because we either believe sex work is work and we've given up our puritanical ideas that the body is some Godly vessel, or we haven't. 
I have to do a lot of public speaking and take meetings where my goal is to persuade people and institutions. There are plenty of times when I'm not "feeling it." But it's my job so I have to "get it up", and sometimes fake my enthusiasm and passion. Other times, it comes very easily because I believe in what I do. 
 

Depends on what are you talking about "extras":
If it's side play during a massage (e.g oral and/or jo) it should be part of the 'Erotic' massage rate. You should've asked if they provide an erotic massage.
If you're wanting full on escort/sex, you ask them if they provide "full service". Nobody should be getting offended by being asked this, especially if it's someone you met on say rentmasseur.
I can share that I had an awful interaction with a massage guy who had a great massage technique and we would have some side play to finish. He was charging escort rates but I didn't mind much because it was a good massage/side play and I'd see him every weekend for about 2 months UNTIL one day he didn't engage on the erotic side nor he say anything about why was it missing so I paid and left. A week later he asked me if I wanted to book and I said that I would, but for his rate I would always expect erotic play. He then went off on me saying that if he wasn't feeling it he wasn't feeling it and that I shouldn't be coercing him to do any thing, because it's his body and what not. I said it wasn't gonna work for me because at that rate I'm not going to be for 40 minutes on that table wondering if it's gonna happen or not that time, the whole point is for me to relax. I thanked him and he blocked me 🤷‍♂️
If you're a provider and you're not feeling it I totally get it, you should set your ad to 'not available' until you're feeling it, otherwise is just scamming people.

I'm from Venezuela and we do use the metric system ha. What I'll say is, I've met and know a lot of the Venezuelan providers on RM and would stay away from about 90% of them. In fact, some of the ones I would recommend post they're from Colombia or Brazil.

Depends on what are you talking about "extras":
If it's side play during a massage (e.g oral and/or jo) it should be part of the 'Erotic' massage rate. You should've asked if they provide an erotic massage.
If you're wanting full on escort/sex, you ask them if they provide "full service". Nobody should be getting offended by being asked this, especially if it's someone you met on say rentmasseur.
I can share that I had an awful interaction with a massage guy who had a great massage technique and we would have some side play to finish. He was charging escort rates but I didn't mind much because it was a good massage/side play and I'd see him every weekend for about 2 months UNTIL one day he didn't engage on the erotic side nor he say anything about why was it missing so I paid and left. A week later he asked me if I wanted to book and I said that I would, but for his rate I would always expect erotic play. He then went off on me saying that if he wasn't feeling it he wasn't feeling it and that I shouldn't be coercing him to do any thing, because it's his body and what not. I said it wasn't gonna work for me because at that rate I'm not going to be for 40 minutes on that table wondering if it's gonna happen or not that time, the whole point is for me to relax. I thanked him and he blocked me 🤷‍♂️
If you're a provider and you're not feeling it I totally get it, you should set your ad to 'not available' until you're feeling it, otherwise is just scamming people.

Depends on what are you talking about "extras":
If it's side play during a massage (e.g oral and/or jo) it should be part of the 'Erotic' massage rate. You should've asked if they provide an erotic massage.
If you're wanting full on escort/sex, you ask them if they provide "full service". Nobody should be getting offended by being asked this, especially if it's someone you met on say rentmasseur.
I can share that I had an awful interaction with a massage guy who had a great massage technique and we would have some side play to finish. He was charging escort rates but I didn't mind much because it was a good massage/side play and I'd see him every weekend for about 2 months UNTIL one day he didn't engage on the erotic side nor he say anything about why was it missing so I paid and left. A week later he asked me if I wanted to book and I said that I would, but for his rate I would always expect erotic play. He then went off on me saying that if he wasn't feeling it he wasn't feeling it and that I shouldn't be coercing him to do any thing, because it's his body and what not. I said it wasn't gonna work for me because at that rate I'm not going to be for 40 minutes on that table wondering if it's gonna happen or not that time, the whole point is for me to relax. I thanked him and he blocked me 🤷‍♂️
If you're a provider and you're not feeling it I totally get it, you should set your ad to 'not available' until you're feeling it, otherwise is just scamming people.

Depends on what are you talking about "extras":
If it's side play during a massage (e.g oral and/or jo) it should be part of the 'Erotic' massage rate. You should've asked if they provide an erotic massage.
If you're wanting full on escort/sex, you ask them if they provide "full service". Nobody should be getting offended by being asked this, especially if it's someone you met on say rentmasseur.
I can share that I had an awful interaction with a massage guy who had a great massage technique and we would have some side play to finish. He was charging escort rates but I didn't mind much because it was a good massage/side play and I'd see him every weekend for about 2 months UNTIL one day he didn't engage on the erotic side nor he say anything about why was it missing so I paid and left. A week later he asked me if I wanted to book and I said that I would, but for his rate I would always expect erotic play. He then went off on me saying that if he wasn't feeling it he wasn't feeling it and that I shouldn't be coercing him to do any thing, because it's his body and what not. I said it wasn't gonna work for me because at that rate I'm not going to be for 40 minutes on that table wondering if it's gonna happen or not that time, the whole point is for me to relax. I thanked him and he blocked me 🤷‍♂️
If you're a provider and you're not feeling it I totally get it, you should set your ad to 'not available' until you're feeling it, otherwise is just scamming people.

The majority of my people don't take it as a job or business where you have to be professional so they care little if they scam you or fuck you over because there'll be plenty of others. I do know one in NY (that advertises as Colombian) and one in LA (that says they're Latino but not Venezuelan) that do take it seriously and are good, but I would AVOID any Venezuelan twink/twunk like guy. 

It's mostly because of hair loss. A big side effect of the...supplements they take to get all those muscles is that it thins their hairline hence the cap 24/7.

You folks need to say where you are. I know a couple of them but they're in LA, though working out naked would be limited to one that has a home gym, you won't be able to do that at 24hrs fitness haha

You folks need to say where you are. I know a couple of them but they're in LA, though working out naked would be limited to one that has a home gym, you won't be able to do that at 24hrs fitness haha

You folks need to say where you are. I know a couple of them but they're in LA, though working out naked would be limited to one that has a home gym, you won't be able to do that at 24hrs fitness haha

While I think the commonly used terms mean exactly what DMonDude said, in practice, I’ve met a few “versatile tops” who never bottom, at least for me and some versatile bottoms who actually can’t top, at least with me. 

Flexspa in LA has a gym and you could get a room there too and invite any guy but know the gym is a public space even if you can be naked 

Flexspa in LA has a gym and you could get a room there too and invite any guy but know the gym is a public space even if you can be naked 

Haha I kinda have a "tier" system:
Hookup with Benefits: 1hr bookings usually from people new or visiting town.
Friends with Extra Benefits: 2hr+ bookings with guys I've had good fun/chemistry with. About 3 guys on rotation.
Boyfriend with Benefits: 3+hrs, overnights, travel. Keep 1 guy usually and is sort of the one I move my calendar around, fly around, travel, etc.
 
Recently "broke up" with my latest BWB after almost two years as he was not performing as well as he used to. So been testing the waters around.

It's mostly because of hair loss. A big side effect of the...supplements they take to get all those muscles is that it thins their hairline hence the cap 24/7.

It's mostly because of hair loss. A big side effect of the...supplements they take to get all those muscles is that it thins their hairline hence the cap 24/7.

Haha I kinda have a "tier" system:
Hookup with Benefits: 1hr bookings usually from people new or visiting town.
Friends with Extra Benefits: 2hr+ bookings with guys I've had good fun/chemistry with. About 3 guys on rotation.
Boyfriend with Benefits: 3+hrs, overnights, travel. Keep 1 guy usually and is sort of the one I move my calendar around, fly around, travel, etc.
 
Recently "broke up" with my latest BWB after almost two years as he was not performing as well as he used to. So been testing the waters around.

Haha I kinda have a "tier" system:
Hookup with Benefits: 1hr bookings usually from people new or visiting town.
Friends with Extra Benefits: 2hr+ bookings with guys I've had good fun/chemistry with. About 3 guys on rotation.
Boyfriend with Benefits: 3+hrs, overnights, travel. Keep 1 guy usually and is sort of the one I move my calendar around, fly around, travel, etc.
 
Recently "broke up" with my latest BWB after almost two years as he was not performing as well as he used to. So been testing the waters around.