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Thanks for acknowledging something I could have brung up myself. It’s not like I was trying to hide or cover anything up, otherwise I would have taken down my signature already. I have the option to change my screenname if I want to, for whatever reason I want to. And who are you calling a sneaky little fucker? You need to check yourself because, because you’re going to end up on the wrong side of me: and that’s the bad side you don’t want to get on. So don’t even try it, Mister. If you don’t like what I have to say here, go on about your business. I’m not here to have squabbles with other escorts. I was not addressing you anywhere here, so don’t try to bait me into a conflict that’s not needed. You’ve already did it once in another one of my threads, so please…do you. Okay… I’m going to say this in all fairness. I understand if you may have different ways of working or doing biz with people. However, when you use words like “kryptonite” to imply a person is harming themselves simply by having boundaries: that’s a bit problematic. And know, I’m not trying to disagree in a combative way. I’m just clarifying what you are asking. I’m just going to copy the same thing I posted in another thread…Becauae I addressed this with someone else, and I think your question falls into the same category: And I’ll even add: the above story didn’t JUST happen in St. Louis. It happened in a handful of other cities, OVER THE YEARS as well. I was continuing to do things without deposits, however after Covid things seemed to have really got out of line and I had to just stop. Regarding consultation fee? That’s easy one. I don’t do unannounced/cold phone calls or endless texts anymore. Escorts have mentioned this on their ad for years. I used to answer phone calls, talk to people over text back and forth and have nothing to show. And just like this story I posted from another person on another website: Did that person get paid for any of those texts? No. But let’s say each of those people paid a $20 consultation fee. 50 x $20 = $1,000, theoretically. If the websites took the opportunity to normalize it, versus leaving us to filter all the inquiries. But that’s Kryptonite to you, how? No, what’s kryptonite: is responding to all those texts, not getting paid, being constantly distracted from friends, work and family, and not having a thing to show for it: except another $80 to spend on a monthly gold membership. THAT: is kryptonite.

And by the way: you sound ridiculous. You’re using that same tired “stop playing the victim” nonsense that I spoke about in the beginning of this thread. I wonder if it was you who said that in one of my threads? I walked away from it last time, but I’m not going to keep letting that shit slide. Since you want to talk about it, let’s talk about it. Because you sound ignorant as all hell to begin with. All my posts are about my bad experiences? That’s a lie. I’ve posted plenty of good things. Maybe you need to read this, and let go whatever in your head is making you think I’m “blaming everyone else and it’s their fault”. The Irony of White Men Claiming Everyone Has “Victim Mentality” | by Amber Wardell, Ph.D | Medium MEDIUM.COM If I see one more white man who’s holding a fish in his profile picture preaching at someone for having a... And the only reason I post this is because, I know the majority on this forum happen to be White, and I know many probably can’t see the specific challenges escorts of color have to deal with in comparison to White or even “non Black” providers. And when I see someone like you trying to denigrate a provider who isn’t “White and fully booked” (because I can read between the lines, and I know that’s what you’re saying in code) I’m going to address it.

It’s harsh because I’m directing it at you. You’ve already crossed the line telling me I have no say on my pricing and boundaries, what do you expect Goldilocks? You need to leave. Obviously you’re trying to create a battle, and I’m done engaging.

First of all: before you go sticking up for someone, I said it that way because I was responding to @marylander1940 . That wasn’t @nycman place to tell me, “please don’t”. The answer wasn’t directed to him, it directed to someone else. Get that straight first. So that’s why I said GTFO. Understand the context, before you go making assumptions. 2nd: You are out of mind and out of line: to try and tell me I need to drop my boundaries, and don’t have any say on my pricing just because I’m not fully booked. This is the exact reason why I don’t trust discussing certain things with certain people: because you turn around and try to use it as an insult. That’s not at all helpful no matter how much you think it is. It’s shady, and I don’t appreciate it. 3rd: I am not going to put aside my boundaries and screening, whether I’m fully booked or not. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve made in the biz, have been when I was overly eager and accommodating to get a booking. I was dashing out booking hotels without deposits, doing trips without deposits: And then losing money on people who didn’t do the slightest bit of confirmation to ASSURE they were coming. I stopped being that stupid escort long time ago. Even though things aren’t as busy: a lot of other escorts are dealing with the same. Not everyone is fully booked, with SERIOUS clients. It doesn’t have a anything to do with being “restrictive”. I’ve said before: the industry now has way more escorts than when I started in 2008. Yet there’s fewer good websites than there were. Because of that, things changed and I have had to adapt to sustain. I’ve also stated before; the last draw for me was couple years ago in St. Louis: I went and booked a hotel room at the Sheraton, had TWO clients who contacted for same day notice. Neither one showed up. One cancelled the other ghosted. I couldn’t get my money back from the hotel, and I didn’t have anyone else lined up. If you put your thinking cap on, instead of trying to be judgmental and dismissive and sticking your nose in matters that don’t concern you: First take the time to figure out the genesis of why I have to charge what I do, ask deposits like I do, not show my number as regularly as I used to, etc. That would be more helpful than sitting here telling me I need to “listen” and do as I’m told, as if I’m some bitch who doesn’t have any experience in life. Try that first…

Bravo. I also just want to add: for clients WHO DO know their schedule, please make the effort to let the provider know within the first couple messages if you have anything else going on that time of day. Many people reach out on same day notice, which can be hard to get somewhere on a specific time frame. But even people who book ahead, often don’t mention other stuff they have planned. 2 people, who don’t know see each other often or even for the first time: usually have separate lives and may not even live in the same neighborhood: Communication about timing is key. Some clients tend to schedule other stuff too close to escort appointments. And I used to rush around and drop my plans to accommodate, but now: I don’t have that option because distance is a factor. I can drop what I’m doing, but I can’t lessen the amount of time it takes to drive 60-90 minutes away. And one $375 speeding ticket was enough (wasn’t client related, but still). Sometimes it’s not an issue when I’m in “booking mode”, but everyday is not booking mode. Some days are get personal shit done in my life. And if I don’t know what to expect ahead, it’s just chancing a mutually good time and it ends up wasting both party’s expectations.

I usually always just put cherry creek on my location if I’m in Denver (which sadly, I don’t expect to be anytime again soon after being “scammed” for the 2nd time in a row since last August) and want to appear a little more high end. But when you actually look at “Glendale” version of cherry creek, it’s not giving that impression lol.

Also, a person can just choose a city and press “save” and it will default to wherever the city center Tom Tom says it is. We also have the option to disable map, which I’ll do sometimes because: sometimes the only way to get shown in the main city (say Seattle, versus: Renton) is to post like you’re in downtown. And you’d think it would be simple, but problem is: at some point someone always messages and says something assumptive like, “oh I thought you were downtown”. “Oh I thought you lived here”. “Oh it says you’re only 1 mile away from me, can you come NOW”. I don’t like when people make assumptions based on a ad lol.

Funny gif but…respectfully; you’re free to GTFO if it’s not something you want to discuss. I wasn’t addressing you, I was talking to someone else… Anyhow: I have another question. Because some in this thread have stated that perhaps I should stay in one market and build the clients here. However, I’ve heard from 2 other providers here that clients get “annoyed/bored” seeing the same guys advertising in one area. And especially if traveling, supposedly an escort can “wear out” his welcome. To me that’s a 2 edge sword. Because the closest major city near me, I’ve been in advertising in the area for the longest of any city I’ve lived probably since Florida where I grew up. I have seen guys come and go here. I have blocked probably 80% of the people who have contacted over the years due to bad behavior (haggling, emotional taxation, impatience, unreliability to name a few). So having to travel has become a necessity for me. Even though it’s not always cross country, I have to regularly show my ad in other cities to stay busy. Some weeks, I get nothing in my home area and have to end up traveling elsewhere.

Good idea…lol

Well the reason I bring it up is because, I’ve viewed the listings from a “client” perspective: that is, logging out of my account and seeing where my ad shows up. Showing a place like “highland park” or “Lincoln Park” in Chicago, is often drowned out by all the guys listing in Dallas, on the featured home page on Rentmen.eu. Occasionally however, I have noticed that posting a neighborhood near will actually show in the listings easier: because the main home page will only show so many gold/platinum ads, even if it’s 100 other ads that are Gold. You’re right it does give a seemingly competitive edge being in specific neighborhood where nobody else is posting, but I haven’t really found it to be the case. There’s maybe only a couple/few times where I listed in a particular neighborhood, and actually got people reaching out from there at the time I was advertising. Also, I’ve had cases where my ad didn’t show in the city listing at all: despite it showing in the location. In San Diego, I was emailing rent.men telling them, San Diego ads weren’t showing at all on the main page, unless it was a platinum ad. It kept just showing ads for Los Angeles area. yes, it’s like cherry creek in Denver: versus RMs cherry creek: Big difference in location. And often times, clients may be clicking on the “near me” functionality. I think what changed is: when Rent.Men became the main site. It also changed where the location names were. Again, that could be Tom/Toms glitch or something. And just so people know: changing a city location is easy as clicking a button. I often times advertise in cities outside of where I live, ahead of time before going.

If this has been addressed before, feel free to post a link. But I’m posting because idk if people, specifically clients have ever noticed: most cities often show a plethora of escorts advertising in whatever the main city is. Dallas, Chicago, San Francisco, etc etc. However, to actually get headlined in that area means our location has to be within a small defined area of town that Tom Tom designates. For example, here’s a RM map for Dallas area: However, when I move the pointer to a popular boutique hotel in the gay area, I get: highland park. Problem is: there’s hardly anybody advertising in highland park. All the guys show up as being in Dallas. But Dallas on RentMen, only covers a small area. Same as in other cities like Kansas City: a popular neighborhood in Kansas City shows “Roeland Park” which is definitely not accurate because that area is in Kansas a few miles away. Once again, next to no providers have that neighborhood as their headline city. I’ve even seen first hand: a guy I met for duo had Kansas City in his ad, but he was actually staying in a suburb area of Kansas City under a whole different name. I just bring it up because, I tend to like to map the area close to where I’m at. But having a neighboring town in the ad headline feels kinda tacky for some reason. And some of those neighborhoods, clients get picky about going to. For example Minneapolis mall of America area, is titled “Richfield” or Bloomington. And one client was like, I seen your staying in Richfield, why the hell would you stay there?? lol. But the mall of America area is a good place to be in town. This is also an issue in Denver, where a popular upscale neighborhood of Cherry creek, falls under “Glendale”, which has a rep for being a “sketchy” part of town sometimes. I prefer to just post the general area of town I’m in (for example Adam4Adam has been known to narrow city options down more to like: North Miami, South Miami, South Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Wilton manors, Hollywood, etc) or the closest one to where I can host if I’m doing hotels. But, somehow most every rent guy shows as being in the main city: which would insinuate everybody is staying downtown.

That’s like telling every bathhouse, hookup app and RM site to only allow SINGLES to meet and mingle. It would be a project 2025 for real, for real 🤣

And let me address this, since you want to bring up old dirt and roll your eyes: because I can go there, if you want to go there. When I was in San Diego, I had a place to base from: so I wouldn’t go bankrupt paying for hotels everyday and waiting around. And of course, I drove out in my personal vehicle so I could go to clients and do Outcalls easily. Once I got the money I needed (versus taking money other clients gave me, to pay for a hotel), THEN I planned to switch to hotels for a day or 2. But that never happened, at least not in San Diego. Within a couple days I had 2 potential appointments. They started off great: but then they’re like, “can you host”? I’m like…yes, but I wasn’t trying to do a same day hosting appointment. I was willing to work with them and either go to them or host the following day or a later time of day. But what did they do? Ghost, flake and not follow thru. They didn’t just waste my time, they wasted theirs too. One claims he was hosting at a hotel but had to check out. The other sounded like he had a place to host but “preferred” to come to me. Neither one of them followed thru. It’s that type of stuff which pisses me off. I already came to the city on my own dime, I made arrangements to stay with someone I know, and they were STILL expecting me to come out of pocket and pay for a room to host them: yet they were hella sloppy in their planning, had no patience, didn’t follow thru and ultimately didn’t respect me or my time. Idk how other escorts travel, but I got away from the going city to city booking hotels and crossing fingers. Anywhere I go, I like to have atleast 1 or 2 initial appointments arranged ahead of time: unless, it’s a place like San Diego where I know people already. But I don’t go to cities anymore, show up and book a hotel.

Hmm…eons ago, I used to live in San Antonio. For whatever reason Austin wasn’t a hit for me. I have met clients there, but even before I was doing deposits and stuff: However, as the seasons change: I do plan to put that area on my itinerary. Not to mention since then, I’ve become a cowboy 🤠 However I’ve been largely avoiding Texas (stopped in Amarillo couple weeks ago for a night on the way back from California. I should have used mega personals instead of RM). The law surrounding the P word is pretty restrictive. Doesn’t seem to matter considering there’s tons of men on RM Houston and Dallas. But I think it’s a lot of ads, with few actual bookings.

If it’s a bother to you: that’s a personal issue. Or at the very least, don’t read my thread. There’s hundreds of others. And I never said clients can’t pay with cash, so don’t bring up other topics here. The “pissing me off” part has to do with people who DON’T READ. It’s nothing to do with cash. And I have in my ads and website now that, first time clients need to make a deposit. When they contact and then say they only do cash, that’s says #1 they haven’t read my ad and just playing numbers game or #2 they read the ad but then think they can finagle around it or disregard my booking instructions.

Well, be the difference. I’ve seen some posts where you’ve flaked out on providers and probably annoyed them too. Are you learning to do anything differently? And please stop saying complaining about something for awhile. You’re playing that “calling someone a victim” role that I talked about earlier in this thread (and if you didn’t read it, you should). I’m simply turning back the perspective. Clients talk about how they’re so worried about being scammed a lot: But if they’re going to say that, they have to look at the other side. For one, even having the audacity to refer to freelancer, especially a Black freelancer (and know there’s a difference) as a scam: is undermining. I’m making choices, and have made them already. Less showing number, no going to cities without deposits (which I been doing for the most part) However when I had to drive home from California: I didn’t really have the choice because I was going to the city regardless. I’m also going to be snapping pictures and sending screen shots so they know there’s no excuses, this isn’t some “surprise” tactic to scam them. It’s all in print. I could never NYC. I like cars, and NYC one of the few places in the country where you are at a disadvantage by having one. Plus all the crime on the subways and streets in New York, last thing they need is more people in the city. I would certainly not move there with the expectation of building an escort clientele. Los Angeles is car friendly, but I was there too last month. I wasn’t thrilled with having to pay $5 a gallon or just under it, for gas. It was okay when I was not going far, but the commutes from San Diego to LA and Palm Springs: I was spending $50, not even getting a full tank, and then wasting it by sitting in traffic every 10 miles. Gas was like the #1 thing that drained my money while I was out there. Moving to LA would also take a ton of money that I don’t have on hand currently. However, I have been toying with the idea of marrying someone who lives in San Diego. But I want to tell him: If we’re going to be together, he’d have to rethink California lol.

Wow, you were ready to go. Sounded like an overnight session may have been in order. Normally I don’t mind morning bookings (in fact I filmed my latest “scene” in Cali with a guy in a morning session: but it was like 10ish a.m.). They’re not my preferred time but, I can manage. But morning wood usually doesn’t get the worm for me, unless there’s someone in my bed. When in hotels, I usually like to try and squeeze get 1 morning appointment. But many budget brand hotels have been rolling check out to 11 a.m. which is kinda problematic. I like to have 30/45 minutes to do my routine and hydrate in the morning before a session. Sometimes I’ve even been able to squeeze in breakfast and quick workout before a session: if its say: an 11 a.m. Marriott usually gives 12 or 1 p.m., some even later. But even there have been cutting back. A Hilton in one city’s downtown charges an extra $25 I think, for anything after noon checkout. That’s in addition to the parking. As an aside, I did not go completely blue balled that day. Later that afternoon, I met with a person who actually booked me, he had a lot of tattoos, and a forked tongue 🐍. Let’s just say: He got his fill 💦 🙈

This is (part of) why I have been charging deposit and consultation. If someone just wants to “inquire”, I have a $20 (is that a bargain or what?) consultation that is needed to discuss. However, if someone just sends the deposit, that’ll leave the option open to book me whenever they figure it out. However, I don’t have time to do this; like one escort described: Now, if RentMen ever decided to start paying us $20 an hour to reply to messages…like a call center does, maybe people wouldn’t mind as much. Until then, who has the patience for that nonsense 🤷🏾‍♂️

Page 2: lol Lot of these were older conversations, granted. Nowadays, I would never. They would be kicked off my phone in a second. Matter of fact, after the last guy said that to me: I’m not going to even let people get the chance to come at me like that. Because now: I’m going to start sending these people screenshots of my ad where it says deposit is required: and highlight it followed by: PLEASE CONFIRM YOU’VE READ MY AD. I’ve done it twice already so far, and it helped the trash 🚮 take itself out on the very first message. Or it’s made them understand: I’m not with the bullshit, let’s get down to biz. I’ve never been to Europe but I’m surprised he had to contend with that level of riff raff. I have thought about it, but as I tell people: what alternative do you have for me? Are you willing to front the money necessary for the down time needed to make a career switch? Are you willing to invest money to help me move to a city or area of town that’s more conducive to the type of career switch I’d be looking to do? Are you investing in my ads, or willing to donate money towards me having an ad up for awhile to promote business, or perhaps help me relocate to a better location? Mind you: I’m not asking you specifically to do all this, but it’s all stuff that has to be considered if a suggestion is made. It’s easy to make suggestions, it’s harder to actually help someone accomplish it. Thankyou, I addressed this above, in a post where I mention why I don’t stay in my current home city of Kansas City. It’s not enough business here to stay consistently. I’ve been trying to leave this place permanently, but I haven’t been able to get the funds set aside to make that happen. I been here since 2018, and been wanting to leave since 2019, but first Covid, and then Monkey pox and now inflation and politics have given a beating. The other thing I’ll add is: my experience (going back to 2008) has shown me staying in one home market all the time isn’t necessarily the solution for all. This isn’t saying it’s not a good idea, but like the problem in Kansas City and even many other cities: every time I look around, there’s a new guy and another guy traveling thru the area. And clients tend to naturally want to check out who’s new. I run my ad here, and don’t get serious bookings for days at times. Like I said above: are you investing or contributing money to help change my home location? Because last time I checked: first months rent, last months and security deposit required in most the biggest cities. I have a vehicle, but on my last trip to California: only ONE client was willing to host. Everybody else wanted incalls. Soooo…changing a home location is going to require a place to rent or buy. Not to mention a U-Haul. Transferring license and registration. Tag and insurance. Emissions testing, inspection (just paid for that yesterday) that costs money when moving to a new state. How am I supposed to come up with that, when I had probably $2,000 worth of “inquiries” on the last tour, flake out? oh, you want me to just figure it out huh? Okay… Thanks much and likewise! I enjoyed catching up and I have been much more motivated to hit my workout goals, even during my tour since meeting you. …btw ima catch back up with ya soon. Think last time we left off, I was trying to adjust to the sudden cold in Albuquerque 🐇 after being in the desert for a month That above sentence is accurate. Thing is: despite everyone saying it’s better to stay in one market: I love traveling and road trips. It surprises me how many people I hear say: “I can only handle being in the car for 2-3 hours, anything longer and I need to fly”. Not me lol. I just sit back, bump my music, watch to my podcasts and play it on the Bose surround…I was doing 7-8 hour drives across the Southwest. However: I’m noticing there’s too many guys trying to all do the same thing lately. I was thinking about going to Dallas this month: there’s 100 other RentMen visiting all at the same time as well. How many actual clients are there at any given moment? I will say: my last client on my tour, it was in central Kansas area: we did exactly that. We watched Noah’s Ark reruns together, did yoga and had a couple fun times. He also booked me twice. So that was a nice way to end the tumultuous tour I had. I likely have to keep traveling this year and even into first half of next year. My ad is always running in different cities. If I were to keep it in Kansas City only, I’d make no money. I simply don’t make enough in Kansas City to really support my lifestyle. Most of my earning, comes from always going to other cities. It’s sad and it sucks having to always be on the go, but it’s just nothing here. That’s why, I haven’t been in a hurry to pack up and relocate to a new city despite EAGERLY waiting to because: I don’t want to make another mistake, moving to a city I end up disliking. Not that those cities are bad or don’t have anything to offer: but I get tired of the gay politics of a city after awhile. Seeing the same guys at the bars, having the same guys messaging me online, etc. Like in Kansas City: it’s the same dudes hitting me up, month after month after month. I try to meet new people, but the client and dating side is dry. Kansas City is all any who you know, and how much FREE sex they can find 🤦🏾‍♂️ I really don’t bother much anymore with these folk. If I could afford to though, one of my good clients who visits me from Seattle says I need to make a return…I also went to the strip in Palm Springs in Halloween/Gay Pride night: it was almost too many options, yet non who were available lol.

Thanks all for the replies. I went on a “yoga” break for awhile and just been AWOL. However, I will try to answer everyone because I wasn’t aware there was so many questions lingering lol. Starting with Page 1: But @rvwnsd absolutely. I like San Diego and SoCal as an area, but this has been like the 3rd time I’ve gone and it’s been not great. You’d think I’d say: “I’m never going again” but there has been some trips I’ve gone and had some good fun clients. This time for whatever reason, it wasn’t. I mainly did this whole trip because I haven’t really gone to any beach destination this whole year. Florida obviously wasn’t an option for September. I even tried to meet friends in New Orleans in August, but a hurricane was headed there too. I was concerned the economy and inflation might have stifled the biz in SoCal: as it has been in my home market (which I’ll respond to @Trick later in this post). But bejesus, I didn’t expect it to be that slow. I also know 2 people in San Diego, and 2 people in a couple cities along the way. So it wasn’t like an aimless expedition. Hey 👋🏾 sorry that happened! Yeah I was feeling fine that whole weekend, and then outta nowhere it was like boom. 🤯 It wasn’t even the usual flu type sickness where I felt “sick”. But I was moreso having odd symptoms with my eye and asthma ramped up. I ended up having to isolate between hotel and sleeping in the car for 3 days. But the Paxlovid cleared me up the same day, and I was negative by the 3rd…but continued the full course. Not great when I was 1,100 miles from home. I haven’t gotten it since then, even went to the doctor and got tested for what I thought was it when I started having the same symptoms earlier this year: and it was negative. Then later I was around someone who was still testing positive but was not ill, and didn’t get it either 🤷🏾‍♂️ The word “scam” was simply me playing up on the common use of POTENTIAL clients always talking about someone is trying to scam them. Its like something I read on another website: if a dude is so worried about getting scammed, stop fucking looking for sex workers and go get a girlfriend 🤣 So: I do take “time off” quite regularly actually. It’s not necessarily me pulling off my ads or hanging up my hat 🎩, but when I come off from tour, I’m basically home and I can go days even a couple weeks and not have any bookings. I don’t like it to be that way, but in the meantime I’m handling stuff like hobbies, projects, and spending time with family. This is also why I don’t really take phone calls and mainly text. Sometimes like @Vin Marco has suggested here, I take my number down all together and only allow email or HOPE they actually read my ad and know where to find my website. I don’t need to give you a long explanation: but the short explanation is: have you ever been to Kansas City? If not, then you wouldn’t really know how these dudes out here operate. Although there are some good clients here at times, usually visitors: the amount of flakes and just overall indecisive behavior that @Ethan Woods mentioned in another thread is ASTRONOMICAL. I have to actively keep a travel schedule if I want to remain in business in this town, otherwise I will tank. It’s not enough viable business here. I have tried all sorts of avenues: dancing in bars, using hookup apps along with RentMen and RentMasseur. Kansas City, and Missouri in general have men who don’t like to spend money on sex much. Gay men here tend to be “broke” or frugal, or only spend money on their own selfish needs, and IF they do pay…they damn sure make it hell to get. $200 is like the max they want to spend. Anymore than that, I’m asking for the moon and stars. I’ve lost regular clients time and again in this state, because they start trying to pay me less or make a fuss when I try to ask for more than $200. That’s why I’m really trying to go to high end and not accept anything under $250 anymore. And it’s not just here, just the entire region. The rust belt/midwest was never a favorite of mine (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Missouri all in the I-70 corridor) There’s a lot of racism here, I see it everyday in every way. The Blacks in Missouri are looked at to be ghetto and poor, there’s always incidents of racism or discrimination in the news. The gays mirror the backwardness as well. I’ve just had to block a regular who was technically stalking me, and time and time again I’ve tried to arrange appointments here and the guys either flake or have lots of bad reviews on the blacklist. And they’re mostly always White guys here trying to fraud. I know that’s long, but you asked and I replied. I did…but I couldn’t really save much to go back home with. What I made was spent on hotels, gas, stuff I brought along the way (shout out to gay mart and Dicks Palm Springs lol). Not to mention I was also paying some bills while I was gone. The flakes and LAST MINUTE cancellations really messed me up in the long run. I would have profited if at least 5 clients didn’t lie on their dick about booking me. That is what @56harrisond should recognize, because there’s a difference between a cancellation and a scammer. These guys are as fraudulent as they come… I don’t like phone calls unannounced. I don’t mind chatting by phone, but I’m rarely ever picking up the phone to talk to someone who hasn’t made an appointment. For one: I need to screen them. I don’t like talking to someone who I don’t even know their name, what they look like, what city, who what when. When I was in Denver, someone called me from a hotel and I was very suspicious. I absolutely would not go to him, without a deposit or redirect to his room phone. He was a flake too. Phone calls were okay back in 2010 when I started, but now it’s different. Stop. Don’t even go there. Those 2 clients sent their deposit and had to cancel on their own doing. Plus, they were in a city I was traveling to, therefore I really didn’t make much in the way off that. It was mainly for commute expenses. But since you’re the expert and genius, and don’t think scams are scams: I’ll give you an example of someone who contacted me. He couldn’t pass my screening so I didn’t waste any time, but the person he contacted the day prior to me, wasn’t so lucky: And here’s another escort who had his time wasted (But I shut his ass down after the first text: couldn’t get pass my initial screening text). I like when the trash 🚮 takes itself out: the ones who don’t respond or don’t even have the decency to INCLUDE when I ask their Name/Age/City/Time Desired/Host or Travel: aren’t worth a single hello or goodbye in the first damn place 🥾 This is a great story. I understand the auto mechanic industry well: and tbh even though I enjoy it, I don’t like the idea of being one lol. I’ve become proficient at working on my own vehicles as much as I can, except anything that involves heavy duty wrenching or impact…that stuff I’ll leave to the shop. I knew some mechanics in Florida and Texas don’t schedule appointments at all. They just say come by over the phone for a quote to look at it. They work on 3 different cars at once. However, when I moved to the Midwest: EVERY shop just about requires appointments. Unless it’s just basic tire stuff but even then, I couldn’t even get my tires rotated in Arizona earlier this month because every place was booked for a few days. And when I did find a place available, they wanted to talk me into new tires. Like ahh, no lol. Not with the amount of money I lost 😞 dealing with dummies. Example from another website with other people talking. So what’s your question again? You have to get out of the mentality that it’s something I’m doing wrong necessarily. No: it’s just how shitty Americans treat escorts online. It’s real. Just say it. This country fails to take the steps towards legitimizing the profession, so there’s idiots all day long who don’t think what we’re doing matters. To them, it’s a joke and a game. Or it’s “just sex” for the ones who actually do show up. But it’s not. This is people’s time, money, energy, ambition. Toying with that is bad karma. I have known some people out there who have passed away and it’s like: some were pretty shitty towards escorts. It’s not ethical. The transference of energy is not a 1 way street…

I haven’t gotten to reading all the replies yet but: in case anyone wonders why I label it the way I did: just take a look at how many times people have used “scam” in their communications with me: along with: So that’s why I’m like: THEY want to talk about someone scamming? But they’re the MAIN ONES scamming the most lol. I’ve probably lost over $1,000 this trip alone due to scamming, lying, flaking ass guys who don’t keep their word and are too scaredy cat to actually communicate and address their concerns with me 🤦🏾‍♂️ Only one client this whole trip who refused a deposit: actually BOOKED. But he also talked to me on the phone, gave me his home address, and was giving me $500. But his story about being scammed himself: actually had nothing to do with a deposit and wasn’t really a scam… just a bad booking. Nothing to do with me as I don’t know who that person was, and likely never met him. What I want people to do: is stop using that word scam all together because if that’s what it is, there’s PLENTY of clients out there who are scammers and that would equate to them being just as bad. Who walks into a person’s place of business, and starts calling people scammers? That person would get their ass kicked out the fucking door (figuratively). So nobody should be saying that nonsense when contacting our phones. Yesterday a client took me to a “free” yoga 🧘🏽‍♂️ class he goes too, and afterwards the instructor wanted to sell me a 6 session paid upfront pass. Did I look at her and say; “YOU’RE A SCAMMER!” Absolutely not, that would be rude, childish, and petty. Just like hmmm…some dudes out here disguising themselves as clients 🤔 This is a conversation elsewhere where the escort asked for a deposit, and the guy says: “bye”. I chimed in with my own similar story at the end.

I was going to post a topic like this myself: I actually had an early morning “hookup” (non-client) the other Saturday at my hotel. Now granted: the guy was smoking hot, nice body, doing all the right things…BUT: it was 7 a.m. and even though we discussed the late night before that he couldn’t “sneak out” from his friend’s (probably sneaking around more like it), I was trying to get him to come at 2-3 a.m. when I was actually awake. He texts me 7 a.m., lucky because the ding and vibration on my phone woke me up. But then he showed up in like 5 minutes 🤣 I’m still sleepy eyed and tired, didn’t do my morning routine at all. We got into it, and it was fun but at one point: I stopped myself from cumming too soon, like I can usually do…but then after that I couldn’t get hard again. Idk what happened. Maybe I got too close, and came without cuming. But again, my body and mind just wasn’t in sync for sex at 7 a.m. especially being I was up til late anyway. Not to mention I didn’t really want to get off because I was hoping to get an actual client. On top of that, he didn’t really show up super clean (not dirty but, not clean enough to rim) in the “nether area”. I should have made him shower but again, that’s another reason why I don’t like last minute/rushed sex or appointments because 9/10 they aren’t going to be fully ready even though they think they are. He said he was going to come back in a couple hours because we kinda ended early. But he didn’t. So I’m like, yeah…never again 7 a.m. anything for sex unless we’re both already in the bed lol.

Once or twice year I’ll pack up a month’s worth of luggage (which is a lot for me) and do at least 2 cross country rides. Generally called “tours” and can last a month or longer. This year, for fairly understandable reasons (hotel prices, gas, biz being less than desired): I haven’t done any. I’ve been traveling, but mainly just keeping it within a day or 2 drive from my home market in the middle of America. The last time I did one, was going to D.C. September 2023, but I couldn’t continue to New York, because I came down with Covid while I was in D.C. (Thankfully got on Paxlovid the next day and only took a couple days to clear). But, I decided to go out on a limb and do a trip to California South this year: especially since hotels dropped in prices a lot once school started back up. Overall, it’s a 3-4 day drive across a few cities…but staying in each one for a couple/few days can add more time to it. On my way to California: things were good, but there was rocky periods in between. Got scammed on the 2nd city I went to: Denver. I had a person I set up before arriving (albeit he didn’t send a deposit, my first mistake). I get there, he drags things along, eventually cancelling the morning of. Not great but, I got past it. However that was my only other booking I had scheduled because I only planned to stay 2 nights max. But ended up being a night and half day instead. Went to the next state, stayed a few days: booked 3 clients, everything was looking up. Then I went to Arizona, and other than 1 newbie in Phoenix and 1 regular elsewhere: it was nothing going on. 1 guy who was in touch with me WEEKS prior to arriving, he ghosted when I got there, but then reached out again on my last day. I’m asking him to confirm, he doesn’t…just kept BSing and asking questions like, “are you really here”, wasn’t picking up his phone when I called: waits til 10:30 pm to say “I’m ready to send it” when I was telling him at 3 pm I needed a confirmed deposit within an hour: I told him too late, and I continued on to my next destination in California. Get to California: Shit show central. Multiple booking requests in San Diego area, not a single one panned out. Also advertised LA/Palm Springs: Only person I met was someone I was doing a makeup session from earlier this year. Everybody else were just playing games. Ended up traveling 3.5 hours to another city in the valley. Booked with a couple serious clients full service, but had horrendous World Series LA traffic to get there. I did another round to San Diego and Palm Springs, But still nothing. It was coming up to Halloween and I was ready to leave, even though I was enjoying my time and the people I was with. The biggest “scams” came on the drive back: I stopped in 3 cities, and not a single person from RentMen or RentMasseur managed to SHOW UP. One after the next flaked, ghosted or cancelled. I only got 2 deposits worth $150 out of it all. It literally felt like zombie apocalypse the whole drive back. Election Day of course didn’t make things any better. I actually took my number down except on my website for a few days: I didn’t even have the motivation to answer the phone anymore. I was out of money, out of patience, and just couldn’t be bothered. My latest scam: client reached out, requested a session: says he “hasn’t had good luck” with deposits. I agree to meet him with address as alternative: Sends address but then goes completely ghost the next day, even reading text to confirm…and ignores it. So I didn’t even waste my time going. Actually, the scam after that was when I stayed in a city an extra day, person reached out late for either a morning session or “could he spend the night” at my hotel if he came over: which I said normally not for a first time client, but then he still flaked the next morning, never sent deposit as requested even though HE SAID he could do Venmo. And then just declined the cancellation fee request that I CLEARLY OUTLINE in my ad: The whole point of this is simply saying: No matter how many times a client(s) claim they’ve gotten scammed: for every 1 time it happens, it could be happening 10 times for us. It’s sad that I can’t really trust the majority of people who reach out from the RM sites much. I don’t know what’s happened, places that I used to do well: were barely producing this time. And I don’t get to do trips like this often. This was a lot of money and time spent, yet I only accomplished 1/4 of what I needed done because: without clients keeping their word, it makes it harder to afford the trip and take care of expenses back home. And before anyone says it: this is not a pity party or “playing the victim” (and people should read why that’s bad form). This is just an illustration of how merely advertising in the industry as a Rent Man/Masseur can be exhausting, unpredictable, expensive, and not always exactly what it seems. If anything, there needs to be more accountability taken by clients and the RentMen platforms, versus cowering away from a responsibility to be reliable with people they reach out to. It’s also not great when a “client” contacts a provider like myself and uses words like “sounds like a scam/scammer” or immediately refers to being burned by another escort who I have no idea from Adam. I don’t think that requires me to let down my guard and take a risk, multiple risk(S) that I’ve already taken more than once and seen the results. Going forward, I’m limiting a lot of my accessibility to texting and being very to the point with inquiries, moreso than I’ve already been. If I have to screen shot my ad to them, and making sure they’ve actually read and agree ✅, that may be what it takes.

I wouldn’t advise a check ever…because there’s no way to ensure it wouldn’t bounce back: but many people these days are familiar with the instant use of Venmo, cash app, etc as acceptable ways to pay for just about everything. My thing is: I have laid out in my ads what I require to arrange a session (deposit), yet some will reach out and insist that they will only pay cash. Okay then, that’s fine but: unless the cash is mailed or given in person somewhere before the booking, there’s still no way to consider that a way to confirm a booking and contribute towards the necessary expenses which may be needed to arrange a visit. And the main ones who often say this: are the ones who want me to host, when I’m somewhere out of town but not hosting. Which means I have to then reach into my own pockets and front a hotel to host, that they will more than likely not show up to or cancel last minute after I hand over my own credit card.

…when there’s ample hotels that don’t accept cash? Like come on, don’t play games. They should know just as well. I’ve stayed at a mid level hotel last week in, and prior to that a Hilton in a downtown area. More and more are not accepting cash anywhere on the property to check in or pay for food, unless it’s a tip. Idk why some people have this idea that they should only give cash, though it’s usually to avoid giving a deposit or some irrational fear that a provider is going to hack their account somehow. Even if it’s paper trail issue: there’s ways to get around that. Lots of cheap prepaid card options. There’s even banks that offer a separate debit card number, from your main account. I’m not a no cash person, but I can’t plan multi-city tours, based on someone potentially showing up with cash. I’ve done that before many times, sometimes it works: many times it doesn’t. For me it’s better to KNOW it will, so I don’t waste time and money going out to places with no actual proof of a real man being available to meet. There needs to be an expectation that a confirmation besides cash is going to be required by some. The cashless hotel | Is it a utopia or a reality? WWW.MEWS.COM Find out what a cashless hotel means for the future of the hotel industry, including the benefits and potential...