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And not just that, clients have to be willing to understand why someone has boundaries to begin with. That’s the issue. They’re quick to think hiring someone else is the solution, but in reality they have to be a bit more discerning about who they’re picking. Every time I read or hear someone saying they don’t want to or never have/will pay a deposit (and sorry I know that’s redundant topic), I just 🤦🏾‍♂️ because it’s like: they don’t get it. I’ve tried and tried and tried to do things without one, and it never fails. By getting a deposit from especially a new client, I cut my chances exponentially of having my time and effort dashed. It’s not even a personal issue. It’s just common sense and experience. If I do without, it’s only if the client is very conveniently located: and is available to host AND/OR travel. But not these jokers who be like, “where are you?” can’t always be relied on to show up. And I’m definitely not coming out of pocket booking hotel rooms and driving long distances for that.

Actually, I’m always surprised by how little I have to travel when I’m in California (except for Los Angeles…in fact in the 3-4 times I stayed in the area, clients either wanted to come to me or, I found someone with a place and bunked with them for a couple/few days. I’ve yet to have an actual outcall pan out). However in San Diego and San Francisco, Outcalls were always within the same areas of Hillcrest/Castro/Oakland. I spend more time driving around the Midwest than I do in California. Even at $5 gas in California, once I got there I was barely doing much distance driving at all. Meanwhile in Kansas city, I’m spending $20-$30 every time I leave the house. The longest commutes were the traveling to California or going from one city to the next and getting caught in traffic. I’ve learned to just drive to/from California late at night after rush hour. I get what you’re saying. I want it to be fun, easy and drama free too. We both want the same things. So we’re on the same page. However, that’s not always what’s given back to us. No matter how bubbly you want it to be, there’s things that take place in the industry from clients that have to be addressed. And I’ve said it before: this forum isn’t necessarily an advertisement venue only. It’s for discussions. I know I probably complain more than…what some want to hear, but I feel better to do it here than to do it in my ads. People often say, they don’t want to read someone saying: “no timewasters, serious inquiries only”. Okay, fair enough. But this here I feel, is a place to actually have adult conversations beyond just fantasy and escape. What I want to hear: instead of talking about or being compared to other escorts who don’t pay my bills…is for clients to take accountability. Reliability. Responsibility. I notice, on this forum and from clients on RM, there seems to be a lack of all those things. Not taking accountability for the fact they requested an appointment that the provider may have took seriously, no reliability for the appointment they requested that the provider may have taken seriously, and no responsibility for the fact that…they requested an appointment and the provider likely took them seriously. And what did they do? Ghost. Flake. Cancel. No show. Don’t respond to messages. Play bullshit games and then play the same bullshit game again a few months later like I wouldn’t remember it happened. Like this one guy on RMasseur: First of all, he can’t even say my name. Who the fuck is guy? My name is not guy. It sounds like he sends the same message to…every guy. And those are just two messages. Not sure what happened to his previous messages (I’ve upgraded iPhones about 3 times and sometimes messages get lost), but I remember this guy previously playing games with me, and him being an asshole when I requested a cancellation fee. That’s why I kept my messages very short with him. But then he fails to reply, so now he’s blocked on my phone and RentMasseur. Then, these same people get an attitude and want to fight with me when I tell them: “you owe me a cancellation fee.” But then they want to argue like they never booked anything in the first place. Then why the FUCK are you contacting me in the first place if you didn’t want to book anything? Like…are they mentally ill or just intentionally insulting? It’s got to be one or the other. It can’t be neither because, it doesn’t make sense why a normal person would do stuff like that. Period. And that’s the thing. Clients want us to all be a certain way, yet rare so I see them fighting for themselves like we fight for ourselves. More clients need to be out marching and demanding legalization. In Texas, there should have been an uprising. Not just a, “It’s illegal now so I’m just going to waste a bunch of escorts time and not book anything, just to be safe.” Where’s the clients keeping their appointments and not wasting provider’s time with endless inquiries that never go anywhere? Don’t compare and contrast, be the example. Because guess what? It’s a lot of gay guys who don’t charge for their time and etc etc. does that mean I should be like them and also not charge? That’s about as silly as comparing an escort to what other escorts do, and I don’t like when people do that. Like some will say: “you’re the first guy to ever ask me a deposit”. Well I’m also one of the only Black escorts advertising in a section of town which has a large convention presence, to begin with. And one of the few consistent ones in a town that consistently only has White and Latino advertisers posting. What point are they trying to make that’s supposed to persuade me into believing I need to conform to some invisible standard of what a provider “should” do?

Having familiarity with Dallas myself: it’s definitely not as competitive as NYC…but has over the years grown to be nearly as competitive as San Diego. I started there back when there were only 10 escorts in Dallas. Now there’s like, 70? With a mix of traveling and locals. Also, keep in mind that buying sex work in Texas is now considered (in a loosely defined way) a felony. I know that’s not fun to talk about, but it’s always good to be aware of what’s being passed in legislation and how that could affect potential client’s behavior and your bottom line. No surprise to me because Texas and Dallas can be very conservative, and known for being Bible 📖 thumping state. Some of the largest mega churches in the nation, are located in Texas. Nothing wrong with the Bible or churches, it’s just that when it becomes a weapon to disenfranchise people, that’s the problem. One can argue that’s good for business, catching the sinners on their days off: but do you really want to deal with that? Meh, bleh. How do you know that? Of course they may not complain directly to you or anyone else about their clients, but you never know what they talk about behind closed doors. They probably don’t even post on here, because they don’t want to give that impression…as they shouldn’t if they aren’t in a position to share and discuss such things without fear of criticism. But you can’t make a blanket statement to imply certain providers never contend with clients, hotel costs or cancellations. You can’t be pejorative towards those who might not like, but want to change or improve certain things in the business. Sure YOU may not HEAR these people talk about such things, but are you with them 24/7, watching what they do to handle the situations that all providers face? Because I’ve been in the gay scene for awhile…I know what goes on behind closed doors. Anyone can make you to think, what they want you to think. And even if you don’t hear it from them, I’ve spoken to clients who have a different story to tell. So don’t assume there’s “perfect” guys out there who have it all together. You’re just getting a glimpse. There’s not a single guy out there in the gay community that I know: who isn’t dealing with a personal challenge of sorts, but on the outside and in conversations: portrays like they have it all together. Everybody has problems. Which is okay. But don’t make it like the guys who may be in better shape financially or getting more clients, are somehow immune to the issues at hand and never complain. They probably just never complain to you. I only say that because it’s a lot of dudes out there putting on this fake facade, and then look down on those who may be going thru something. That doesn’t intimidate me. People need to be more real, especially gay people: and uplift each other, not put one another down.

That’s always good practice. However, what I contended with last week was just downright bizarre. It gets to a point where, it becomes silly and immature. Game over for the flakes and bullshit. Thats why I’m just like, fuck it. I’m not doing the book a hotel and hope I have 5-6 clients per trip thing anymore. That’s 2012 strategy. People these days aren’t reliable enough, to trust that is going to work. I feel the pandemic has changed sex work to where, numbers don’t matter anymore. It’s all about loyalty and quality. Going forward it’s 1 or maybe 2 clients max in a day, and not even everyday: when I travel. I’ve already started adjusting my ads to imply I only want 1.5 to 2 hour visits minimum when I host. I’m trying hard not to resort to only $500 and higher/per session meets. I mean, I was given that just the other day…So it’s not out of this world, but I don’t want to alienate a large part of the market.

Well I was able to catch a break and woosah 🧘🏾‍♂️ over the weekend and squeeze in a 1st timer and a return visitor, and rescheduled one of my cancellations who booked me a room in his city. Exactly what I’ve been asking the universe for. Finally. However, I am still motivated to make (more) changes due to the number of flakes and phonies. Had someone off adam4adam who I was considering to meet without a deposit. Texted the first part of the day, no response around the time we set to meet. And nothing the next day when I seen him online 🤦🏾‍♂️ As for big city/small city: I don’t know. The answer seems obvious but, the bigger cities aren’t always the better results. In fact I was in DC back in September, I was disappointed. Luckily I had friend’s hotel downtown so didn’t spend but 1 night on a hotel room the 5 days I was there, but other than 2 trusted guys on here 😉: I didn’t get any bookings. I was like, what the hell? In DC? I’ve done other trips to DC in the past and some were better, some weren’t. DC seems very dependent on how politics are looking (which is crap at the moment it seems). I might of went too close to after Labor Day, and not enough advance notice (I was meeting friends short notice on their conference schedule). I would have preferred to advertise for a couple weeks more ahead than I did 🤷🏾‍♂️ I always assume it’s best to do it the day prior? Seems after 3-4-5 p.m. the rates can go up. But I think I have noticed every so often, a price will go down mid afternoon. so I’ll try to look more for it. For me though, it’s not just the price part. Even if I get a perfect steal on a 5 star hotel for $50 (and due to 98% of “inquiries” out there these days being phonies: I’ve stopped using the money saving 3rd party discount websites: so that’ll likely never happen) if nobody shows up the day or 2 I’m there: that’s not favorable. To me, getting a hotel is like a photographer renting a studio and having no models show up. That’s time away from home, time spent waiting around bored, and money spent. There’s nothing more depressing than a provider going to get a room, and the people who were expected to show: don’t. And I had to pop off on like 2-3 bookings last week because of that. Then they get an attitude with me, and I’m like wait: you’re the one who initiated all this. By being a fake: they’re not just wasting my time, they’re wasting my money and entire schedule. Thats why going forward, I’m not even going to host in hotels locally for less than 2 hour sessions. Whether they need the whole 2 hours or not. And when traveling, I’m definitely going to have to stick with deposits as usual when hosting. But I may just start making sure all my first day in City arrival bookings, are Outcalls. I did that couple weeks ago in another town, where I asked the client to book the room: and it just got the whole trip off to the right start. I did the booking, then stayed at a friend’s place.

Have you worked there before? If so: try it out and see. But my experience has been, traveling there for a couple days wasn’t so great and I often would feel it wasn’t a good market. But earlier this year I stayed for like 2 weeks and was able to meet a handful of clients. Similar to NYC, San Diego is also a competitive market. It may have fewer than NYC, but it’s still a lot compared to the places I tend to go where there may only be a handful of guys advertising. Not to mention, it’s been discussed San Diego is “results may vary” in my opinion. You’re dealing with a lot of Navy (active duty don’t “typically” tend to pay except, but retirees more likely will), and college (same but, there’s a lot of money rich college students in SD too). The thing I liked the most with SD was the gay bar scene. I was like wooooooo. A Wednesday night in San Diego is busier than the busiest night in some of these Midwest cities. The line was down the street, and it was already shoulder to shoulder inside. It’s just hard to partake in that every night, when the goal is to earn and try to save money to go back home with.

And another thing: I wish people would stop saying, “well you don’t have to come all the way here/book a room JUST FOR ME.” Well who said I was?? And even if I was, why ask me if/when I’m coming to a city if you don’t want to be the reason for it? Why come off so contradictory. You may not be the only reason but, you may be the reason I’m coming that particular day or hour…When I may want to come at a different time if it were my decision. I would like to think clients trust that we are smart enough to have a secondary purpose for traveling to a city or booking a room. Regardless if that’s to book other clients or sightseeing personal venture. But that shouldn’t mean they get to be loosey goosey about meeting, and be left with 0 obligation to keep their word. Couple years ago I drove from St. Louis downtown (right on Illinois border) to Indianapolis (1 hour time change) just to see 1 client who was hosting. I didn’t have a desire to stay in Indianapolis and “work inquiries”, so I went to see him for a 2 hour booking, and turned around and came back that same night. So what if I went just to see him, I got paid and can make my own decisions on how much more I want to or don’t want to do, beyond that. I used to travel 13 hours to a small town, just to see one client for overnights every summer. But I would halfway stop over in a bigger city along the way. So even though I was going there just for him, I was able to add onto what I was getting…and it was always an advantage.

I don’t have all the specifics figured out for this, but I’m starting to feel the “common” way of booking hotels and traveling to a city and lining up clients (like many seem to think we all do) just isn’t it anymore. In the last couple days: I’ve had 3 confirmed bookings and 3 “maybe” bookings cancel, and I’m on my 2nd night at a hotel. Then a handful of inquiries here and there that haven’t panned out. This after I traveled over 5 hours to a city, in shitty weather at that. Livid would underestimate the way I felt. I had to take myself to a movie, just to escape the reality for a couple hours. I’m at a point, I’m done with booking and paying for hotels: and having their inflated rates suck up my funds. Then, if something goes awry on the way to a city: Lot of clients can only squeeze in a narrow window of time to meet an escort when I’m hosting. Time and time again I’ve booked rooms, and the client omits the fact that they have other obligations going on, that prevents them from being able to set aside more than an hour or 2. So there’s times I’ve ended up with cancelled bookings, and waiting in a hotel trying to book other clients…only for them to not show either. So I’m basically about to just quit hosting all together, unless I’m doing it from my actual place. But since that could potentially lower the amount of clients I get, I might have to start doing minimums of no less than $500-$1,000 anytime I travel, that would be enough to offset the expenses. I’ve found some clients don’t mind getting a room to host, and have even gone to cities where every client hosted (my first time to San Francisco some years ago was like that: all my bookings hosted). Only caveat is how to work that in if I need a room anyway. I don’t mind figuring out my own accommodations after I earn for the session in full. But that would give me the flexibility to pick any hotel of preference in any area of town. Not necessarily central for taking clients. Right now this is just a preliminary idea, but it might be something I reserve for certain markets. But the ultimate goal would be: send the deposit, include the address, and I’ll come to you. Amazon delivery 🚚 basically. No booking hotels or hosting unless it’s an overnight or 2+ hour evening session. It’s not that I don’t like hosting, I’m just over having to cover it all: travel, book a room, check into the room, and perform. I’ve often found it easier to just travel and perform when I’m going to cities. The whole hotel process adds a whole extra layer of work for me. And like the other day, one client failed to tell me he was going out of town that same night, and was waiting in a company vehicle for me to get to the hotel. Then he cancelled because his boss was calling. So I had to then call/cancel the hotel, and call the 1800 number to get the hotel to approve getting my points returned so it wasn’t lost. But just the day before, he tells me he was available “anytime” and made no mention of this. That’s why I have to remember to always ask every client before I make any hotel or outcall plans: “If you have ANYTHING else going on in your schedule I need to know about around the time of our appointment, be sure to let me know the earliest and latest you can meet.”

This is exactly why I rather just have a site with all this info listed. The issue comes when people don’t click my “about me” section especially on RentMass. I know pricing is a topic, but why have the extra rejection factor of having to ask and find out what the price is, instead of just being able to freely list it along with any extras or add ons

And that’s why I ask for deposits…Why they behave that way, is long unconcerned for me. I just need to do what I know is best for me. …now that escort has to wonder if the guy is going to be just address collecting him. I stopped relying on people to be “on their way” long time ago. Why am I going to tell someone where I’m staying or where I live with no assurance of them showing? When I’m in one city it’s a bit easier because there’s a row of town homes on an narrow street, all connected with different street numbers. I can give them the one across the street, look outside to ensure they’ve arrived, and then come outside to meet them or direct them to the proper side of the street. If they want to be stupid and play games, they get the address to the abandoned house down the street. Maybe they’ll have more fun with the neighborhood raccoon 🦝 or possum (yes they live in some city’s downtowns, not sure where they hide) 😂

What I meant by that was: not just this country but just political/economic stuff in general. I’m only 36 but: I know the early 2000s had its crisis, the 90s had its crisis, and the 80s, 70s and 60s too. All which likely had people afraid and uncertain for a period of time. That is the bullshit what I’m referring to. Whether that’s pandemic, epidemic, war, Y2K, Cuban missile crisis, stock market crash, housing market crash, oil embargo, civil rights unrest: it’s always some bullshit. This whole thing now with Russia, Iran and who’s going to get elected next: is all part of the 2020s saga that we’re living in, but isn’t particularly unique in the scheme of things. I never know exactly why/how sex work; an intricate industry, is affected by these things but: somehow it manages to persevere and rebound thru it all. Well thankyou, classy I am (I try to practice what I post when dealing with other businesses: like the ones that quote me $3,000 for a paint touch up 🤦🏾‍♂️ That’s the spirit!

I just wanted to go back to this again, just to clarify. It’s not that I’m charging for information. I have my ad, my website, and reviews. All that information is readily available. The thing is, many people who browse the sites skip all that information, that I’ve put my foot into baking 🥧 lol, metaphorically speaking: and go straight to dialing or instant messaging me. Then when I go over that information, they are clueless: no idea that I prefer advance notice, no idea that I ask for a deposit, no idea that I travel and post in different cities, no idea that I have a website, no idea my rates, no idea about anything. And they want to reach out at random times and tell me they are only available “Today”. I remember few months ago, some dude contacted me while I was visiting at the Air Force base with a guy I was dating. I took the time to reply to him: he was visiting in a town about hour away, but it was the nearest major city to the Air Force base: he had a hotel but didn’t want to host because quote: “his dog isn’t friendly with strangers”. Then when I was trying to arrange a booking, he’s like “only in town tonight” and then gets all dismissive towards me when I asked for deposit because: why the fuck am I going to go way out there and book a hotel out of my pocket, and not have any assurance of it happening? It distracted my whole Air Force base date that day, and I should have never even responded to his cheap ass. But now: I’ll never have to worry about that again because: my number won’t be posted and they’ll have to do a bit more effort to reach me. I don’t have time for that shit anymore. Too many clueless people contacting all the time, who have no intention to coordinate anything. They just think a provider is going to fall into their lap (or other areas) with no sort of effort to figure out what can work. For example this article (because people love to compare our industry to other businesses…well let’s go ahead and compare it to other businesses 😂 GlowdayPRO - 30 Days Free WWW.PRO.GLOWDAY.COM If you’re not charging for your consultations, it might be time to ask yourself if that makes good...

I understand that but: I’m specifically talking about this profession. I know it happens elsewhere. By all means, I can go on any hookup app and experience that all day/everyday and think nothing of it. But we’re dealing with a different dynamic here. If I’m paying $$ to post on a site, I shouldn’t have to contend with the same level of flakiness as a free platform. And people have to do their part to acknowledge when they are coming off flaky, and be let known it’s not acceptable practice to do in the industry. I mean, look at that guy. More than 1 providers saying he stood them up. I have to wonder if they have said anything to him at all, and if they did: why would he continue? And on top of that, to someone the client has met before. We can keep making excuses for inconsiderate behavior, and relate to every other business: or we can at least address it and call it out when it happens. Many who behave that way, have no idea the inconvenience they may cause. I’m not saying ever interaction has to be an obligation to book: but people who know better and still do it: need to realize it’s unacceptable. And most specifically: I refer to the ones who: I respond to them, and they don’t reply back. And then a year later hit me back up trying to meet “today”. And when I reply back, they either don’t respond or do what the guy I mentioned does. That’s not just being a ghost or a flake. That’s someone who lacks etiquette, and needs to be let known. Now, if they enjoy escorts getting upset with them and do it on purpose: they deserve to be on every report and blacklist available. A First-time Client’s Guide to Escort Booking Etiquette TRYST.LINK The sex industry often feels mysterious to outsiders - full of rules and customs that aren’t... The sex industry is rife with ‘time wasters and tyre-kickers’ - would-be clients who never follow through after contacting an escort. If you want your first attempt at booking to be successful, you’ll need to stand out as a serious customer.

Sounds like DeJa Vu 🫤 But at the end of the day it’s like: the history of the world and the country has always been in upheaval since the beginning. You get a few years of peace, and then it’s back to the bullshit. Then peace, and back to bullshit. Rinse and repeat. But that’s why it’s good to have people who are willing to step outside the box and do something different. And the industry definitely needs that right now.

I feel 2008 was different in the way, that there were less escorts and more websites at the time. Now it’s just 2 main sites and a few for women or those that don’t really update their listings. Not to mention Sesta/Fosta wasn’t around and Texas (where I was living at the time) didn’t have such a ridiculous law regarding sex work. The industry has gone to hell in a 🧺 and thrown the baby out with the bath water since then 🤦🏾‍♂️ People wonder why there’s war and violence going on so much lately: it’s because everybody wants to control what someone else does. Jesus needs to come down and tell everybody: STFU and stop trying to make everyone conform to what is considered the right way 😂

Not necessarily always the case. Many younger gay guys are often required to live in the city, (and the most expensive cities at that because let’s face it: cities like Kansas City and St. Louis have gay scenes, but after a couple years you start to get tired of the same queens doing the same things: so that’s why places like Chicago, Los Angeles and Atlanta are more sought after) pay higher rent, drive a decent car, have money every weekend for drinks or dates, all while racking up debt by having a higher education and a couple credit cards. It’s plenty of resources out there that explains why it’s so hard to save…not just a “know how”. Not sure why I’m thinking kinky right now 😆 I’ve seen in August Provincetown have many visitors from New York as well. Didn’t get chance to make it up there this summer but hopefully in the Fall before winter 👍🏾

Not disagreeing with EZE, but I agree with this. Especially when you come to states and small towns outside the cities. A lot of people look like they’re doing okay but not always the case. And I know the escort industry has been hit first, in the worst: but you don’t hear about it in the news. I’m finding Adam4Adam has not been too great for biz, and there’s cities I have gone over the summer and only gotten one or 2 bookings. The friends I know who aren’t being crushed right now: are either working 2 and 3 jobs or getting a decent 100k salary to afford it. It’s all facade. I’m on different forums for sex work, and many have said that even escorting is hardly something you can do alone and survive off anymore. I’m feeling that. And like @stevenkesslar said, the 2011-2014 days were some of the better times for me. I was completely independent, didn’t have to often need to ask for deposits, and it wasn’t 100 guys all advertising at the same time. Now: it’s just a whole other game. That’s why I’m moving towards trying to get paid for the initial steps of booking clients because: I can’t rely on only meeting someone to get paid. I could get 10 booking ”inquiries“ over a course of a week, and not make anything. That’s why I need to be getting something, just for my effort to engage on the phone.

I would state what your budget is, without necessarily suggesting that you are telling them what to charge. Example Demo: You: How much? Provider: $400 You: Thanks, You’re definitely worth it. However I’m only able to budget $300 at this time. If that’s not possible I can reach out next month when I have enough saved. Provider: Oh ok, well if you’re willing to host/come to me, meet me between the hours of X and X, or come right now while I’m at this hotel, I can be willing to accommodate the $300 You: Great, thanks. Appreciate you working with me. I’ll be right over OR here’s my address, don’t worry about booking a hotel: 123 sexy street, Beverly Hills, 90210 This way no one feels flaked on, and the provider may still be willing to work with you, if you can make some concessions and accommodations yourself. No need to be ashamed and not buy what you want. However, don’t be slighted if you hear something different like: “i don’t offer any meets for under $XXX” It’s like when people contact me asking for a $100 session. My answer is usually always no, but after the last guy was very rude towards me, I’m not doing anything less than my minimum. Well, I understand it’s not that. Maybe I didn’t describe it enough. I think moreso it’s just that: there’s so many more providers out here popping up in markets that don’t really support the supply. Places like Denver and Nashville, and now even Kansas City, etc used to not have many providers…but more and more are flooding the market. In response it seems the clients come off less appreciative and seem to have a disposable attitude. That’s why my solution to the issue is to just get away from the saturated markets and focus on smaller locations instead. Well, just to clear you up: there’s no aging going on here lol. Though even if it was, it’s moreso supply and demand (as I explained up above) and, like you said…The implication of apps and how they can potentially have an effect on the biz in a broader dynamic. And just curious what’s the true implication of inflation that you’re looking to define?

Regardless: that 1 local guy you sent a deposit to had nothing to do with a deposit, considering you said everyone else you met were traveling providers. It was likely moreso because it was a local guy who probably would have jipped you with or without a deposit.

It sounds like you have only dealt with 5 providers then? If out of those 5, only 1 didn’t turn up. That wouldn’t quite speak for the throngs of other providers out there that are advertising, correct? Therefore it’s not quite possible to equate your experience as a hypothesis in the big scheme of things. You just happened to contact 5 guys, and 1 who asked a deposit didn’t show. And since he was local, you could provide the local area City that is. That would determine whether it’s a high chance of that happening. Just like I said: for every one (1) no show you can name, I could name 10. As for part 2, technically a missed (or flaked) client opportunity IS monetary loss. If I’m expecting to earn something based on a client contacting about a booking, and that client flakes/ghosts/suddenly doesn’t reply back: that’s $200-$400 that I thought I might be getting, that I wouldn’t. And that has a direct effect on my earning for that week. So my solution now: I don’t want to know, if it’s not happening. Show me the money and send a deposit, or pay something and we can do a consultation 1 on 1 privately, undivided attention. Boom. Issue resolved. Not assuming you’re directing that at me but: I just made nearly $500 over the weekend, and non of it was from meeting clients directly. It’s nothing to do with contempt or animosity. It’s moreso about setting boundaries, being innovative, being willing to think outside the box and do what’s best for the greater good of one’s biz and well being…not be persuaded or intimidated by antidotes suggesting since others don’t do something: I should do the same...at my peril. I’ve agreed to see clients too many times without a deposit, and got stood up too many times. Those days are over. I’m looking forward and towards the future 🚀

Eh, meh…that’s a tough one. But I get it. Sometimes I appreciate another escort reaching out to me, long as it’s not overtly sexual. One guy in St. Louis we’ve hung out. And in my earlier days I would occasionally reach out to others for references or verification on if a city was good to travel to (haphazard I know but, this way long time ago). There’s one advertiser, cute guy but who’s wanted to hookup with me in like 3-4 different cities, but it’s like: “come over and let’s fuck”. However, unless it’s someone from the forum…lately I don’t really mix with other advertisers as much. I can’t help but cringe when I’m hanging with someone and they’re like, “I have a client/with a client”. In my head I just be like: You can be around me all day long and not know I’m texting or making plans to meet a client.

Thanks, I mean at the end of the day we are farmers 👨🏿‍🌾 selling bananas 🍌, eggplants🍆 and apples 🍎 lol. And I agree, it does take an ability to sell your package and deliver. Which I’m great at in person and once I know the client is genuine. heck just last weekend I was able to get the co-owner of a gay bar to invite me back to his place (well he invited me and was already interested, but I just facilitated it), and now he’s going to be booking me for an overnight next time I’m in town. However, the issue is the initial riff raff of inquiries. Like I said, I’ve been in sales before and I know the need to be a “good sport” and not take things personal and be driven by emotions. But when an escort lives in area where people regularly disrespect sex workers, or conservative, unsafe, etc: A dude has to do, what a dude has to do. And in my case: I feel I can be a much better sales person if I only deal with CLIENTS, not “timewasters” and guys who think texting at 7 a.m. or telling you what hotel they’re in and if you’re available tonight, is just an inquiry that can be flaked on:

I understand that but, I don’t think our industry can be compared to that of the definition of “sales”. Many (not most, don’t quote me and I know there’s all levels and diversities of sales) sales jobs tend to be going after people who have no idea they want a product. The last “regular job” I had was in sales, and I left that for this. It was not at all similar. Clients contacted me, they wanted the product, I didn’t have to twist anyone’s arm, or sale some boring product/package (pun intended) I didn’t like, with a script and a bunch of quirky lines. Sales people also tend to have hours where they are dealing with that, and hours that they shut off. We never shut off. Clients will text/call us at all hours, in cases where we aren’t even in the position to converse with them at that moment. Then out of kindness, I’ll respond back, only to be met with dismissive, indecisive, unreliable behavior. Why. Why should I keep doing that for free? I wish I could think of something to compare our industry to, but I can’t at the moment. Uber/Lyft is probably the only modern day thing that has a direct comparison. But their business model is way different. The drivers don’t handle clients, the app handles everything for them. We don’t have that luxury. We place a ad, and have to basically run the entire ship 🛳️ from start to finish. Meanwhile RentMen just sits back and chill, while collecting our payments (no diss at them, but just stating the facts because they are simply an advertising platform). It’s not that I’m frustrated at the business (I know hard to believe) it’s just I want a different way of doing things. Yes there’s some frustration I’m always having to respond to “inquiries” at unpredictable times, only to deal with bullshit like above, and not even get paid for it. Yes, that is frustrating, who wouldn’t? Tell me someone who wouldn’t be frustrated after they waited 30 minutes at a gas station in their car, for a client to confirm: only for that client to then cancel and…AND say they are going to call someone else? You wouldn’t be frustrated? At 10:30 at night? And you live an hour away? This is why I decided it’s time to move to getting something for each “inquiry”. I’m asking $20 now, if I client wants to reach me. That’s not much to ask. That way I can get/share details and figure out if it’s something that can happen. But I can’t keep doing that all day everyday, just to hear one excuse after the next after I volunteered my time. If they can’t do that, they probably just using my line for free entertainment or a bit of attention.

That’s why I don’t even like to tell people how long I’m in a city at all, and just say I’m playing by ear. Of course that’s dependent on driving versus flying in (which I rarely ever do for that reason). I know I tried to let you know I was only 4 hours from Buffalo couple months ago, but I know that’s too much notice for some people 😂

Just be careful because: I’ve found on two occasions clients have blocked me (one did it because he was being a flake and I told him off, and the other was a regular client who was likely married and would do the block/unblock thing). Well guy A had pulled a fast one by emailing me on RentMasseur. We met and everything after he sent a deposit. I had no idea it was the same guy I told off previously. Well a few months later he hits me up again on a hookup app (I’m sure we know where that’s going). No response all day, and I’m only in town for 1 night. He then texts me in the evening just as I’m about to start driving to the next city because I waited around for him all afternoon and didn’t hear nothing back until then. I text him back, but messages are in green (instead of blue which means delivered on iPhone). Partly why I stopped using Google voice for my ad phone and switched to iPhone. So I’m like, he must have forgotten to unblock me 🤔 Needless to say, his game is over with after what I told him last time 😂 Which kinda sucks because the time we did meet, was a great time. But it was more than a time or 2 that he’s left me hanging or switched up last minute. Better to just be transparent with people, because he might ask “did you get that message I sent about my Black Friday sale??” And if you say no, he’ll know you blocked him and might feel slighted.