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Very good, realistic assessment. I seen this at an event I was working couple years ago. Though not directly in our group, lot of the attendees were strung out, and at one point: the resort manager came and damn near kicked half the pool off the property because they were being too showy with their liquid “paraphernalia”. I just so happened to be standing just on the outskirts of it, but I knew I wasn’t about to do what they were doing. Especially after I had to console a guy earlier who was shaking and hysterical after his friends said he got plowed on G and didn’t remember it (though I never found out the validity of that story). Lot of these circuit parties are pretty much a typical weekend in a gay bar district: same shit, just on steroids. I’ve seen the same shit, in different cities, 1,000 times. Though the only saving Grace is, the experiences are different, the possibilities endless. So it keeps it entertaining for me. As for the original question: by all means if an escort wants to attend such an event, attend. But let escorting/finding clients be a secondary function. That’s pretty much the concept of how I travel nowadays. I rarely places just for the prospect of doing bookings, unless it just happens to be along the way to my main destination (partly why it’s been so hard to get me to a particular city that a particular person wants me to go to. Not that I don’t want to go, but I just haven’t found a main purpose to go yet). That way, you’ll have reasonable expectations regardless. And usually, in the process I’ve picked up a client or 2 unintentionally. Like when I went to Iowa pride earlier in the summer, I didn’t have any clients that weekend. But I did have a friend of a friend who happened to be interested, and he booked me for his husband 🥵

Well, I’m not really trying to compare myself around the competition, in this particular situation. Using competition as a fear tactic (not that you’re doing that, but it’s easy to fall into the trap) is not something I’m interested in. Just in the past couple days: I’ve had to turn down 2 outcall clients, who failed to screen or send deposit. Even though I didn’t intentionally want to miss their business or pleasure: the times of night they were contacting me, along with unexplained/unexpected LONG delays in responding prior to their sudden urge in the middle of the night, were not something I was open to waive policies for. I wasn’t going to let the fear of them contacting competition, sugarcoat a situation that seemed sketchy and weird. But closer to topic at hand, overall I don’t think it should be a big deal breaker. For years, it was very common that outcalls were usually $50-$100 more in many ads. If someone can justify needing extra for an outcall, someone can justify needing extra for an incall. It just doesn’t need to be as cut and dry, or same expectation as that forever. And that’s also why I’m not making it a mandatory separate incall rate because: sometimes hosting may be more convenient for me than an outcall depending on the day or location.

Umm, actually no it’s not about hosting being too expensive or even avoiding traveling to a particular city. I’m referring regardless to the city or cost of the hotel. It’s more of the fact of getting a spot to host at all. Whether that’s $50 or $150, it still comes out of what I’m getting paid. I also don’t stay on any friend’s sofa…I’m 6’2. Most sofas aren’t big enough for me to sleep on. If anything, we’re going to sleep in the bed together☝ However, what I have decided to do: is since I’ve already adjusted by rates by $50-$100 this year: and my deposit to host is already more than it is for Outcalls, I mentioned that the deposit paid to host may not be included in certain “nearby” travel cities listed on my ad. For example, when I advertise in Kansas City, it costs me more time and funds to host. Also some people see my ad posted up in cities in other areas nearby. But then they expect me to drive there AND host. In their minds, I’m just already there or planning to be there by default. No. I am by special appointment only. If I were to do all that: travel, host and drive back: that’s not even leaving me with any profit unless they book my higher priced session. So, I just have to start adding the cost of the hotel in my rate, because it’s no guarantee I will have more than 1 client show up during the time I am available. However, I do have a city I can host from home…however like @BuffaloKyle mentioned: it’s not a place that’s available to have people in/out all the time. Fortunently, I’ve found just in the past week when I’ve pushed this concept: clients have been willing to either get the room for the booking, or decide to host themselves.

I’m definitely leaning towards that. But since I can imagine it might be a bit of resistance to adding extra for the hotel, I decided to just bump my price a little more towards what I want it to be. And I still find even incall/outcall difference in rate doesn’t make as much sense than having tier level service. Outcalls aren’t always “easier” than incalls or Vice versa. Some days I already have a hotel set up, and prefer to host IF a call comes thru. It’s just I can’t necessarily “rely” on the idea that by booking a hotel, I’ll make back on what I spent on it. Because a lot of times, I’m not. It’s been my rate, minus what I spent on the room. But if I can up my rate to a point where it offsets it, it might not be an issue. Fortunately, many hotel chains offer decent deals/rewards for regular bookings. So I occasionally end up with free or reduced nights.

Not to mention: I’m seeing many examples of guys who may not be escorts, but they are marrying or partnering up with older, somewhat less attractive White (and occasionally even other races who happen to be well off) men. So you’re definitely right on that. Lot of these guys out here be getting partnered for security…

As someone who travels and goes on “tour” often, I’ve usually always just kept my in/out the same. Some people may be familiar with having the outcall rate more than the incall rate (which I don’t find personally makes sense for me, since outcalls are technically easier for me…No clean up or hotel overheads). I’ve recently consulted with a different community, and it seems it’s pretty standard to add on an extra cost for hosting in hotels. However, it seems it hasn’t become too common here unless it’s specifically asked for. My reasoning for it: it used to be getting a room had the potential of being able to fit in 2 or more clients. Now, I’m finding in many cities, it’s more common to only have 1 client per hotel “booking” day (given you don’t get 24 hours, just the standard check in 3, checkout noon) which often causes me to be unable to see a noon to 3 p.m. client unless I reserve an extra day. I find if I’m “lucky” and can just happen to get schedules to line up, I’ll see more than 1 client. And of course the main thing, is the cost of hotels. After I pay for a room, I don’t end up with my actual price. Especially with special events like games, concerts, holidays: hotels jack their rates up, and if I need to host away from home: that’s coming right out of my earning. I also feel some clients book in-calls even if they can host, because they feel safer than having someone come to their place first. Of course I would be sure to bring it up, and lay it out ahead of time with the client. The decision would be between having a designated higher incall donation, or just manually have an amount added. Something like $50-$100 extra. Or if the person wishes to get the room themselves, by all means. By doing this, I would also want to cut out a lot of the “speculative” and “assumptive” things that go on. For example, some clients may see me posting in a city, and think I’m just going there by default with hotel ready and waiting. I have to remind them, it’s “by appointment only” anywhere I go. Even if I’m already planning to pass/go there. One guy didn’t want to pay deposit, but expected me to stop in his city AND get a hotel to host. Absolutely not. If I do that and the person fails to show up, I’m out the price of hotel, and my fee with no guarantee another client will fill the space for the 1 day I could book the room for. I ended up booking a different client in a nearby city who did confirm the session. I think it may also help with the “don’t get a hotel room just for me” phrases I get sometimes. Well then, would it be better when I have 2-3 clients lined up that day? Not going to happen. Most people lately often have too busy of a schedule, to meet all in the same day when I’m hosting.

It sounds good theoretically, but what you mention is simply speculative. Just because someone looks good, doesn’t guarantee a fortune in the pay for gay industry. I know this for a fact: I am on Adam4Adam and I may only get 1 client in a week or month out of a KILLING of replies. Many are interested until I bring up the money. Which is usually why within the first message or 2, I already have an auto reply set up that includes my rates. Which is the other point: just because someone thinks they can get paid, doesn’t guarantee they’ll get paid what they want. If you ask the average non-sex worker guy how much they’ll charge to do what we do: you’ll hear a crazy number like $500 just to suck their dick, and anything with sex would be like $1,000, $10,000, $100,000, $1,000,000 etc. But WE KNOW: the average “range” for an hour or 2 is generally in the $50 to $500 range. And yes, there’s people out there who think $50 is a good price to pay for sex. Not making fun of anyone but, I’ve heard offers of all sorts over the years 🤷🏾‍♂️ I think the real question is: why aren’t there more people willing to pay? Because at this point: I feel there’s already enough providers in most major cities. I know it doesn’t seem like it, and there “could” theoretically be more, but there doesn’t need to be more because; we haven’t even come into full decriminalization or de-stigmatization. If you have too many providers, the potential for profit will decline if there’s not enough buyers to do it. It’ll be like when I went to a strip club in Dallas once: there was like 25 dancers and 3 customers. There’s also been stories here and there, of people offering a guy paid sex, getting tattled on: and then being arrested (though I think it’s usually been the under 18 ones). There’s also been situations I’ve heard where someone reacted violently towards a guy, after offering a straight guy payment for sex. Obviously these are extreme examples but: it’s worth keeping in mind to be mindful, and DON’T solicit someone blindly, just as an escort (especially gay escort) shouldn’t solicit clients blindly either. I personally wouldn’t think into much. Even as a fantasy. Simply because: someone could say, “why aren’t more gay men into women? They would make BEAUTIFUL babies” lol. Well I would find that kinda offensive tbh. Even though it’s meant to be a compliment. I am what I am. And as others have mentioned, it’s not something everyone should or could do. Most people are of the concept: you only have sex with someone you’re attracted to. And then you have others (including other gays) who believe money should only be earned by working 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., and that sex is a God given right to give/get for free 👎🏾

In my experience: I’m finding the #1 thing that breeds a timewaster, is people not reading the ads. I know this for a fact because, I recently had to emphasize it in my profile. If someone reaches out and asks what my rate is, I know they haven’t read the ad. If they seem shocked or resistant to sending a deposit, then I know they haven’t read the ad. Then when it’s an issue, it’s almost a default: time waster. I’ve been able to make my interactions just a little bit easier, by just making sure they have read the ad, which also directs to my website. Once I get that part out the way, then we’re on the right track. But just clicking on an ad and texting blindly, without reading anything: almost defeats the purpose of writing anything at all.

Well whaddaya know: I decided to check my number, and have a couple or so reports myself 😂 Interestingly enough, I know exactly who 1 of them was: from a “couple” who sent pictures of “themselves” (And I doubt it was even real, looked like some roided up Instagram couple) who texted me from 6:57 a.m. on a Sunday, all the way til 5:30 p.m. that day. And hadn’t sent an address or confirmation at any point during that time, just a barrage of questions. And claims “he got mad because I asked if partys”. Lol No, the reason I got “very angry” 🙃 is because: #1: texted me at 7 in the morning #2: spent 9 hours exchanging texts #3: stopped texting entirely after giving me a time “they were thinking” (with no address included). I then responded with a time I could meet, and didn’t get a single reply for the rest of the night 🤔 So I can agree to an extent that, the platform can be abused. And I don’t even think the person was who they claimed to be. I had already confirmed before, there was someone who contacted me and sent me pictures of a gay couple, claiming he wanted an appointment. “They” ended up flaking out. Turns out, it was some completely different guy married to a woman, looking nothing like the photos of the “Gay couple” he sent (I have other ways than Mr. Number to verify). So, the reviews are one thing: but there’s also fake people posting fake reviews and just trying to put a dent in someone’s reputation. However, reviews on RM are likely more accurate than that site. My only gripe with Mr. Number is, although you can “write your own report” you can’t directly respond to a report. And their editing of a report is just screwy, and will simply add another report.

Mister or Mrs. number, or not: it’s still important to have screening methods. Even if that app wasn’t around, I’d still be having my own way of verifying. In my experience, majority of the ones reported: have indeed been a case of, “I should have read the reviews”. I think there just needs to be a let go of expecting full anonymity and no accountability. I have learned women escorts often ask for ID, employment info, references from other providers, and not to mention deposits. I feel the gay hiring scene is stuck in operating on “trust the client, fuck the escort”. And now people want to talk about how we shouldn’t even have a platform to improve safety or avoid red flags? Perhaps remove the personal standpoint and focus moreso on the bigger picture: far too many flakes out there. And simply not hiring a first choice is just scratching the surface. There’s some out there who have nothing much better to do in their spare time, than to troll RM ads . So, it’s only wise to have something to say: “hey this was my experience: proceed with discernment ”

Perfect way to describe: emotional vampires 🧛🏼‍♂️

oh gawd. Reminds me of a guy I mess around with who’s only 22 years old and was talking about his plans to get Botox because he’s aging 🙄 (and to anyone who thinks 36 is “old” majority of the guys who hit me up nowadays are younger than me. I think I’m getting more 20s guys, than I was actually getting in my 20s lol). I’m like dude, just use some vitamin E and cocoa butter. No need to start looking like a mannequin so soon in life lol. Ok, let me explain more to this: me wanting “more” is not necessarily entitlement. I actually sat down and thought about WHY I need to put my prices up. It’s not simply because “I feel like it” or that “I been doing this for too long, it’s time”. For me, as mentioned: my costs are gone up, and so has my effort in both myself and my presentation. For example; a hotel room with just a bed and TV isn’t enough for me anymore. I find it very uncomfortable, and makes it hard to enjoy being on the road and seeing clients. Most all hotels I host at nowadays, are suites with a separate bedroom and living space. Or at the very least, a couch. That tends to come at an extra cost. And many hotels aren’t upgrading top level members like they’re supposed to, I’m finding. The other thing is…the increased client flaking and guys who don’t read ads and claim having a website/deposit is “too complicated/difficult”: this also pushes me in a direction to have to raise my rates. Because I’m working with fewer people who are willing to screen and respect the need to establish boundaries. The days of just taking clients Willy nilly and winging it, are diminishing for me. Even when I try not to take deposits: as I did earlier today, half still don’t show up. I had someone book a session claiming to be coming to reserve a hotel and do a two hour session. Then I realized I didn’t bring up the deposit part. Time comes around, complete no show. Then there’s some people who want to give a hard time about deposits and don’t want to pay em. However, it’s anyone’s guess whether they actually show up when the time comes. And I have no real clout that they actually will, until they show up. And by that point, I’ve likely spent money on travel, accommodations, and already far from home. By that time, it’s too late. Some clients expect us to take on FAR TOO MUCH risk for $200-$300. I have to travel to a city, book a hotel, and pay for hotel: all with no deposit from anyone? No. Similar to how shoplifters/and those mass burglaries cause stores to have to pass it on to consumer prices, having a bunch of NC/NS can have the same effect. Feedback is one thing, but I’m not sure what you’re getting at. If it’s in relation to rate choice, I can clarify that: In the past year, the 3 clients who noted my rate went up: one was from adam4adam and he took some time to finally agree to booking to begin with (unfortunately, a site known for lower rates), another defrauded me out of the session, after paying with a credit card. And another was a client who had relocated, and said my prices went up: 3 YEARS after he last booked me 🤦🏾‍♂️ So not all client feedback is necessarily good feedback. Well, you’d be getting ripped off because: I doubt that 21 year old is going to give the same level of service as the 36 year old lol. Hell, I’m giving a better presentation in the biz now, than I was at 21 years old lol. Though I do feel there was more clients back then and it was MUCH easier: Craig’s, backpage, A4A used to allow rates, M4RN, rentboy, even RentMen was just a seedling 🌱 back in 2008 when I was 21 😂 and there was less providers than now, and no lousy hookup apps. 2023 in the escort industry a jungle 😵‍💫 Exactly. Maybe in some circumstances like, daddy/son role. But…there’s plenty, maybe even MORE tall, older, beefy bottoms out there that hate the idea of being forced into some “daddy/father” role, and rather want to be fucked. As I’ve gotten older, I am finding my quality of (ones who actually show up) client has improved. And, some are even younger. Recently had one who was only 27 or 29. I was 🤩 on cloud 9. Exactly! In fact, I will even say I’ve “dreamed” of the day I could be a 35-45 y/o escort when I was younger. They often seemed to be able to set firmer boundaries, get flown around, and get more longer sessions/overnights. Unfortunately, the damn hookup app culture and economy/Covid has dampened that dream a bit. I did get a taste of it when I first turned 30 back in 2017-2018. I’m hoping after the next election (politics often play a part too) things will level out. Too much “Demo/Repo” animosity going out right now. Maybe they should just elect an Eagle 🦅 Otherwise yes, I did continue to put my rates up. Unfortunately, I can’t only charge $200 anymore for everything and anything like things used to back in 2012. It’s nothing about being greedy or pompous, it’s just things are different. However, I will still stick with a tier level of service. I don’t imply anyone’s money is not valuable. $150 or $200 is fine for some meets. But the more involved sessions require a bit more. And also: I know this may not mean much in the big scheme of things considering people probably use credit cards, etc. for such purchases but: I have sat and listened to clients/gay men tell me all about spending $30,000 on upgrades for their home, or $12,000 for a leisure trip, and $70,000 on a vehicle: I find it despicable those same people will turn their nose up about $300 or a $50 increase. I find (the self absorbed) guys love to do that in general. They’ll talk all about how much they have and how much they spend on this and that, but treat their sex partner of low value. I’m just very against that. That’s why if someone tells me my rates are too high, I want to put them up. If someone says I should be charging more, I keep it the way it is, as that means it’s no reason to be gaslit since I could technically be asking more.

Well that’s the thing: I’m not trying to do less work for more because, I do enjoy it for the most part. But to me it’s just this idea that some seemed shocked about a price change. And I get it, everything has gone up and it can be annoying. I don’t think it has anything to do with any of the shit they claim it is except: “a politician wanted higher wages so now, we’re going to increase prices of everything in reaponse”. But I feel some are taking the anger out on us like: well now I’m going to pay YOU less because of it. Like dude, I’m 36 now. Were you making the same at 36 as you were at 21? For fucks sake, recognize the value of the service. My services hasn’t gone done in quality. At all. At all.

Well let’s not forget, sometimes clients flake on their own deposits. And in this case, I just did a very nominal deposit. Which I don’t normally do but I was trying to make it easy for the person. So, throw that no same day appointment idea for deposits out the 🪟 I especially do it for same day appointments, because I have to be ready at short notice quicker than anticipated.

That’s basically what it is for me. Just an extra $50-$100 Not a lot but makes a difference. I even had one client say my rate “doubled” last year. I had to correct him on that, since when did $50-$100 equate to double? Somehow, getting less and doing fewer bookings is supposed to make more. Hmm, how does that work? On top of that, I can’t increase my volume if I wanted to, in my home area where this guy is. There’s so many last minute requested AND cancelled sessions in the area I’m in, it’s almost become a product of the environment to strive for a higher booking per client. Like I say, most days when I’m not traveling: I’m only averaging booking 1 or 2 serious clients a week.

Well, here’s the thing: my price for the most recent particular person never went “up”. He was initially doing x amount anyway, but was expecting my “regulars” discount despite not having seen me in 8 months. Like, no. A regular discount has to be like, you’re seeing me every time I’m in town. This same person is usually unavailable every 2-3 times we try to arrange a visit. So therefore, a regular promo doesn’t apply. On top of that, there’s also options to do longer sessions. If someone can’t ever do any longer session and always wants to keep it at $200 or less…what does that say about the interaction? And then to make things more irritating, this same guy says “he’ll get back to me yesterday,” only to cancel this morning. Basically a passive aggressive way of telling me he doesn’t want to continue paying the price we been doing, but wants the cake and baby batter too 😆 Like at this point: he’s on the way to blocked and blacklisted. That’s just unacceptable a/h behavior.

I know this should be directed at the specific people who say that, however I can’t help but bring it up because I’ve already heard it (or shall I said, read it in text messages) now like 3 times over the past year. I’m sure I don’t have to explain why prices may be a little more than before. But some of these guys saying this, haven’t seen me in a year or more. The most recent: guy is a semi-regular but we’ve not met since December. 8 months, a whole new year and age older later, we’re having a discussion about prices up. For me: I haven’t gone up just because everything else has. In my case, it’s been a combination of increased prices and fewer bookings. Some of these guys are expecting full service sessions at $150-200 an hour. However, I need at least $250-$400 to be able to offset the cost I spend on hotels, commute, etc. So at times I have to request 90 minutes or two hour minimum. On top of that: I’ve known the industry since 2008. At that time, $220 was fairly easy to get. I was also (my own critique opinion) not as put together and attractive as I am now. But here we are 15 years later, and some seem to think rates should remain the same or go lower? I’m spending more on everything, yet don’t have the dependable salary I would imagine many clients have. And this started before Covid and inflation. For me, my expenses have been up ever since the “rental market” started to get hot in 2016 in many cities. I remember around that time, I did a hour session: having drove from one city to another (100 miles) and booked the room to host. I was only left with like $120 after the room. And that was my only booking that weekend if I remember. That’s when I realized: 1 rate isn’t going to be doable in all situations. And even a $50-100 difference isn’t necessarily a major move. But it still has an effect. I mean, my haircuts are costing me $10-15 more. My vitamins, protein shakes, and “men’s health” products are a little more right now than before too. Do clients expect us to just eat the cost of these things, with no sort of awareness that we might also need to adjust our prices? Do clients want a malnourished, soft dick guy with bad hair and nails to service them, because we can’t afford our essentials? Then it’s like: somehow we’re supposedly to magically be able to pop out loads…while servicing 2-3 clients (hypothetically) a day to offset the lower rate. Fortunately there are those out there that this doesn’t apply to, and most new clients I see are accepting of the newer prices I have. And this isn’t to poke at other clients or imply they are cheap, however I think there needs to be an understanding that sex work is expensive. I’m not some loaf of bread or gallon of milk that people buy everyday. I have so many companies taking money out of my pockets every month, I’m not out here just rolling in cash. If things were conducive to do so, I would be asking for $500 to 1,000 minimum for meets, until I was certain lowering it could reach a higher volume. Last thing I want to do when I’m in a region with fewer clients and more advertisers, is LOWER my sessions. Seems it would equate to less bookings for less made 🤷🏾‍♂️ I don’t think it’s right to make it seem like an escort is being greedy, when we’re not immune to the price hikes either. Also I remind clients: our rates, or at least mine; are not permanently inscribed in stone 🪨 we have the right to adjust our prices occasionally as we see fit. Especially if it’s been a lengthy amount of time (more than 6 months) since previously met or booked. Like I’ve related to hotels and airlines (I don’t fly, but gas changes just as often): their prices change almost everyday, and I’m subject to those same fluctuations directly out of my pocket. I change my price/rate structure every so often because I get bored repeating the same thing. What incentive is there to know you can’t change your price after a few self improvements or seasonal adjustment 🤔

I think we gotta bring that tattoo thread back around lol. But yeah overall, you’re right. I have seen “vintage” porn where there isn’t as many tattoos on the guys, as more recent titles. It’s definitely seen a lot more in the newer titles versus even the earlier 2000s. I feel a similar way to music and cars. I try to err on the side of ”not super common”. Not that super common/mainstream is a bad thing (in fact societies resistance to going outside of the box can make it that much harder). But, not doing so reflects a bit of originality. One thing that gets me with tattoos is, some can almost “go out of style”. I’ve heard references to “90s tattoos” and such. Like wait, if it’s permanent does it really matter tho? Lol. I suppose that’s what touch ups/re-designs are for. But going back to the topic: yes…I still say there’s just not enough information to make any assumptions. Even though it may very well occurred, it may not always be the “cause”. I remember years ago, some fucking bottom feeding, piece of shit and trash “client”, tried to make up a story about his roommate having his drawers ransacked and cash missing. He started questioning me…and I’m like: if I did take the amount of money he was talking about, I would have left already 🤦🏾‍♂️ I don’t even know if the story was true. But what I do know is I didn’t take anything, and I still don’t know til this day, why he would make some shit up like that, and try to frame me. Think it was his way of getting out of paying me the balance. But when he came at me threatening me, I didn’t hesitate to call 911 on him. The fact he was a client didn’t make it right. Because if I had to beat him up, I woulda gone ape 🦍 shit, and I know I would have been framed as the battery suspect 😆 I’ve learned to stay on the right side, and let the police work “with” you, not against. And later on, I found out the name of the guy and his place of work who owned the house he tried to pull that crap : and mailed him a nice big envelope, with a copy of the police report. People be thinking escorts have no common sense or we can’t do anything. I be like…I’ll be the last one ☝️you try some bogus shit with. Anyhow I have to step away from this thread. These type of topics can be very triggering lol. Fortunately, those past lessons have made it to where I more likely avoid such situations. I had to send a long text to a client the other month, about why he had no place to feel “weird” that I wanted him to come to my hotel first…versus to his air bnb with 2 other guys who “might” want to hire me. Like bruh, you may be a fine gentleman, but I’ve seen it all and done it all. I don’t always know why my intuition may not like certain situations, but if it seems messy, I’m going to avoid it. And sure enough, those 2 other guys never wanted to hire me. If anything they probably would have messed up the whole appointment.

One thing I have to quickly note on my end: there’s always two sides to every story. Without any real evidence on our end or presence of the matter: I was merely speaking in general. That’s not invalidating or discrediting the story: however I have seen situations where someone appeared to be the suspect but in reality wasn’t. There’s still not enough info in this post to confirm this person was the actual suspect. And the ”first responders” would likely go about it the same. Hopefully: whatever happened is resolved timely and the OP can find a way to recoup the loss. In a situation like that, blame and regret are just secondary.

Thing is: the theft has nothing to do with how they met or what was going on. There’s not even anything mentioned in the post, that gives reference of anything beyond the theft. This isn’t a case of “he didn’t pay me for sex”. This is a case of; this person stole a vehicle and committed grand theft. This person stole a vehicle, took 2 laptops and a wallet. I would be 100% going to the proper channels and printing up a photo (doesn’t need to say “RentMen”, after all no need to give more info than necessary and giving it to the police) and make it very easy for them. Then I’d be taking the same police report, and sending it to the advertising platform to let them know what time it is. In fact, I would be me or having someone in my crew reach out to him personally and tell him: return the shit: or I’m coming with someone to pick it up FOR me. Period ☝🏾 Sorry that happened. But having been a victim of a robbery twice myself: and neither time related to escorting, I can definitely sympathize. However, in each case I can always see where I faulted and how it could have been avoided. In your case, I can’t quite tell based on the info you gave: but “going to another place” and 4 a.m. all sound like red flags. Not of you, but just of the situation. I never leave things within reach of unknown persons. I have a strategic way of putting things to where my sight is going to be on it at all times. I also avoid making any “detours” at any point. I had that happen in San Diego earlier this month. I was at one place, with 3 guys but then at some point the venue was going to switch to the other guy’s place. Instant red flag for me. I was like, “why are we switching?” It wasn’t nothing sinister (other guy was tired) but…past experiences have shown that deviating from the course of the original place, and dealing with unknowns can result in unintended circumstances. But regardless, don’t just let it slide. Even if you don’t get instant return of property, better than going unreported.

Great point about basic/gold ad. Even though I’ve kept a basic ad on one of the sites for the last couple months, I decided to switch back to Gold. Even though I was still getting booked even with basic, I was finding I wasn’t being displayed properly in some travel locations in RMass…and in some locations I had to keep bumping myself to platinum on RM just to get on the first page. So that was kinda disconcerting. I mainly do platinum boost to jump start a tour, but I’m not fully convinced it is reliable to use all the time. Except in the more busy markets where there is 2-3 pages of Gold ads. I just wish RentMen had the same level of “hits/inquiries” as the other site. Especially since it is more expense. Unless guys just say the other site to make it sound “safer” when they contact. I often have people contacting me saying they “seen me on RM.” I usually ask, which one?? Lol. This seems more true in some areas than others.

Yah I agree with that. Even though I’ll say: I think now that you mentioned it, I feel “safer” as a provider than even working in most of those professions. Stuck with some crazy at 35,000 feet…reminds me of that movie turbulence lol. At least we have the option to screen out or block those types before actually meeting them. That’s why the entitled ones who think they should be able to walk into our offices with minimal screening, should keep walking. It’s not meant to be a personal attack, only if they interpret it as such.

Right, that goes back to the thread someone posted about which is better between massage and S corting. And I was like, there is no which is better but…I do know what tends to be more “approachable” in some areas. Even Adam4Adam, they nixed the escort category and defaulted to masseur. Not great, but I guess better than no category. Somehow massage just happens to override escorting in many areas. I remember that being so as far back as the Craigslist days. I think what they really asking is, how much is it to…🍆 e.g. etcetera. But it’s like…it’s 2023. Can we just move on already? First thing needs to be done, is modify the S&F bill that T&P signed 📝 back in 2016. Considering all the mayhem that’s been exposed. Fortunently, I just had a booking request yesterday who seemed to have read and gotten the memo. I think going forward, I’m just going to stick with email and number listed off site. Most weeks I can handle the flurry of inquiries, but I just turned 36 less than a week ago and my patience for arguing with people who expect providers to do minimal screening: is low 🚮

Right, similar to Miami/Wilton Manors in Florida. I won’t mention his name (politics) but RDS is making Florida look extremely conservative when in reality, there’s tons of liberal fluid people. If anything, Florida is one of the most liberal states in the country as a whole. But you have people living and moving there who see all that, and throw the 📖 at them. Even Miami and Fort Lauderdale area can be super conservative in pockets 🫤 New Orleans is an example of an enclave in a middle of conservatism I experienced that myself. Considering Alberta borders Montana which is a very conservative and repressed state…it’s not exactly surprising. Hmm, idk about that. I stayed in that area and seemed to be convenient for most. However, I did week nights. I think the issue would come if someone tried to go during the most busiest and rowdy nights of the year. I never been to decadence or Mardi Gras, however I can imagine local clients not wanting to go down there during those days. Basically. On top of that: small towns are full of churches. My relatives live in rural area and I see it all the time. It’s all about church, work, and family values. So much so, that it rubs off on the gay community. No matter how much some tout equality and such.

Good assessment on competition and how it shouldn’t be feared but…it’s just in my experience especially in the biggest cities, with the biggest dicks and lots of chocolate 😆 : it just doesn’t pop as quickly as cities with less competition. Places I’ve spent time in like Miami, Houston, Chicago, Los Angeles…it seems like the money takes too long for me. I be desiring clients within the first day or 2 of arrival. I remember one year I was in L.A., and wasn’t getting anything. Went to Bakersfield and had a booking within a couple days of advertising. Though I will say: sometimes visiting and living in a city can bring 2 different levels of opportunity. If OP isn’t really reliant on bookings, and can post around for weeks and months and get noticed by a wide audience, it may be easier than someone just visiting for a couple days or a week and not easily noticed among the pages of ads.