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Both are masseurs branching out into escort territory.
 
Rainer looks hot but had personal hygiene issues when I hired him as a masseur.
 
Bigboyjoey has 100K followers on Instagram but a lackluster presence as a masseur charging 200/hour in NYC. As an escort, he is charging 400/hour. Steep for a newbie … From his IG I notice he is a circuit party boy.
 
Do you want stinky from LA or overpriced from NY? Your choice ….

Last year about 15k, probably closer to 20k this year. In fact I’m doing more event hiring - overnights, weekends away - although the cadence has stayed the same.
 
Don’t regret a penny of it. I’m also not saving for a rainy day. What’s the point? Live whilst you can is my motto.

My investments have been good to me, and my needs are few, so I don't mind spreading the extra cash around. I feel the money is particularly well-spent if I meet someone interesting who will converse and exchange ideas in addition to romping in the sack.

You actually piqued my interest so I took at look at my ATM withdrawals (only took a couple minutes with MINT, yay!!!!) and I spent about $10K on escorts over the past 12 months, and I'm fine with that number. I tend to hire more when I'm really busy at work and hiring an escort actually EARNS me money! I could easily spend a couple hours on GRINDR trying to hookup and finding what I'm looking for and someone who's into me and what I'm looking for and who is available when I want and isn't a flake.... If instead I focused on work for those two hours and billed $400/hr, I'm up $800. I might only spend 15 mins picking out an Escort on RM or zero if I just text one of my regulars and just schedule with which type I'm in the mood for. I'm then less stressed at work and have something nice to look forward to after a stressful day. After paying $300 to the provider, I'm still up $500 vs the "free" route.
 
Financially I do whatever I want, travel, have fun and also save more than 30% of what I earn, and hiring hasn't forced me to cut back on any of that. So 100% worth it.

Yeah fortunately I have a very solid pension and retirement fund that I put extra money into so I feel like I'll be good for retirement. I live in a fairly small studio apartment. While I could afford a nicer, larger place, I'd rather spend that money on traveling and this hobby.

AFAIK It’s only possible using a URL. The picture has to already exist on the web somewhere, and you are just providing a pointer to it. I don’t think this forum supports the hosting of photos.

Guys warning! Do not bother with this one. Yes he’s hot and muscular but it is a rub and tug. And he barely speaks English and plays confused when he finished after 30 min and it was a 60 min massage. Don’t waste your money

Too bad, but thanks for taking one for the team and sharing the info.

Yes, competition is fierce... multiple repeat guys text me every week to line up their work schedule. However, it is sometimes hard fitting them in between my regulars and other social activities. Despite the competition, the rates have not gone down.

A combination of several factors:
 
Libido
As @dcguy20 stated: “…I feel like someone switched my on button off…”
 
and as @sync stated: “Age has diminished my libido” and “An occasional massage is pretty much it for me anymore.”
My decreased libido likely also related to aging. But that may be ok (and I’m fine, for now, at not using “enhancement” drugs) because it indirectly acknowledges other factors:
 
Cost (this is a VERY expensive “hobby” - and I have a real budget)
As @Studsearcher stated: “I might be horny but am I horny enough for these rates?”
 
and (slightly edited)… “The longer I go with reduced hiring, the more (funds) I have for other frivolous things that last a (lot) longer than a couple of hours.” To me, however, some of those “frivolous things” are pretty important.
 
Changing Priorities
As @overeasy stated (and slightly edited): …there are other things that can use the funds…house upkeep and improvement, family, friends, (completing other items on my ‘life bucket list” while I’m still able) and just plain old savings.”

I'm practically at a dead stop in escort hiring:

Age has diminished my libido
Skyrocketing rates (somewhat understandable considering the cost of living in New York City)
The tattooing and piercing craze
The waning of work ethic within the pool of providers (condescending, arrogant, flippant, impatient, up-selling, stolen ad images, "ask me.")

An occasional massage is pretty much it for me anymore. Sure do miss Rounds, Stella's, and other NYC "job fair" venues.

I would think if you contacted a masseur, and asked if you could spank them before/during or after the massage session, they would either hang up/not answer your text....or tell you to hire an escort.

I believe they are both still $300 for incall and outcall. They may get fickle sometimes and quote a huge sum to see if that client (a new one, no doubt) will agree to it, but for the most part, they stick to $300. If any regular clients of theirs on this forum know any different, please correct me. Thanks.

Gotta say he's just average. Went to see him in East Village (he also says he has spots in Chelsea and Brooklyn). It's the same shared rental below Union Square on 11th street that others work out of and is a shared basement unit. Shower you can use, but filthy, sort of like the one with mops in it you find in most asian foot massage places in NYC. But it is offered, yes. Massage is good enough, body not as good as the photos in the ad, probably ten pounds softer. And MT but restricted and wouldn't take off underwear. Cursory HE but didn't touch it a single time, even to brush against it, in the hour massage preceeding. Once was enough. Handsome enough guy but that cold russian out-for-money feeling that just kills it

So true! lol. What saves Pasha for me, is that he's actually gives a great massage and ending. I don't know how he manages to push all my buttons, every time. He has great pacing that just crescendo's at the end. It's not very sensual at all really, but very effective.
So when you get that from a very good looking guy, it all just works.
 
Pasha's greatest skill may be his consistency. I can't stand the "will he or won't he" game of newbies or the " skip the massage and straight to the fun" with some of the more known erotic or sensual providers.
 
So when I want a great massage and ending without all the uncertainty, I know that Pasha delivers. What sucks is if he ever offered an massage+escort option, I'd be a weekly customer,lol. But he has never given the slightest hint of doing that. Especially, not with me and from anyone I'm aware of on the forum. And I'm in double digits the amount of times I've seen him over the years. It's like a minor miracle when a person says he got slightly aroused! So seeing him is great, but also very frustrating!
 
That said, I'm looking forward to seeing him later today...

bump it, pump it, whatever it takes...

At least for me, Pasha is not sensual at all during the massage.

Ok thanks

Humans generally need some touch for mental and physical health. I am glad to see so many people taking care of themselves. Please do not put your financial stability at risk though! It's not worth it to endanger the rest of your life. If you honestly are spending more than you can afford, I urge you to stop and think about it. Find a therapist to talk to because it isn't healthy to self sabotage your life.
 
Create a budget, stick to it, and find one or more male bodyworker(s) that you have fun with and enjoy!

I've tried to get in contact with him the past 2 summers/falls during my NYC visits but no response either time. Glad to see he's doing well and focusing on his career and life overall.

Hi guys, I didnt go
Well, I didn't enter. When I got there i saw one of the dancers in his way in; I've had never had the chance to be with him so he approached me and asked, I thought he didn't liked me/wanted me, if I want a private has to be in that moment b4 he starts his shift. I took him to this cheap rundown hotel that I know I can get in fast, 27st and 6th Ave, so I had the most delicious men, it was like a 30 min well worth it, then I went home. I was tired. The good part was that because I was his first, of the night, he provided.
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Wow who is that shooting the Load? Wonder if he is escorts lol

I had two great massages with Kevin in his apt. We were both fully naked the whole time and mutual touching was okay but nothing special about the ending as i recall. Good massage techniques and nice at the time. I last saw him in the spring and he seems to be more arrogant if these stories are true.

Is ken asian or latin? Also what is thr vibe at k town? Any actions?

Looks like there’s some mixed reviews on here about him, but I’ve set up an appointment with him for Tuesday. He was very responsive and very courteous between our text exchanges. Wish me luck boys.