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finally I have the time to report from trip to Barcelona, where I spent four days at Thermas followed by three days in Zurich. Despite feeling exhausted, I had an amazing time at Thermas, which is still a great option to meet guys at reasonable prices. € 50 and in some cases '€100, like always, I was upfront and clear , Depending on your needs and preferences, you can negotiate for more.
I was lucky to have a good set of guys that  joined me on a Wednesday, which is client day, and the place was packed with Venezuelans, Brazilians, Colombians, Cubans, mixed guys, Greeks, and a few Romanians. It was great to see that the place hasn't changed much. I even met some guys from previous trips who were all really nice.
The only challenge was having to make decisions when there were so many options on the weekends 
.I get the Extra rooms, the💶€10 ones, I prefer them for it’s clean sheets, and you can return the keys after paying for the total hours to get another fresh room/sheets. I recommend taking a room on Friday and Saturday, even if you're not going to use it for hours, since it gets busy, and rooms may not be available. I spent time with two guys, one of whom was Albanian and one from Venezuela. who I had met several times on previous trips. They also introduced me to their friends that they new were my type. On weekends, you can stay as long as you want, but most of the guys leave by 7 pm, and those remaining boys are usually seeking to get high.
there is a party that starts at midnight is called Crush is a dance party that Thermas host  every other Saturday, but it's one night for straight and another for gay people, and it was clear that it's not popular at for Thermas rentboys since is not for hiring.
It's challenging to keep up with specific guys' names, but once I got my locker key, I usually headed to the bar downstairs to grab a drink and wait for the guys to walk around. They're not pushy, so you can say hello and sometimes be introduced to their friends without any jealousy.
Some guys  hang out on the middle floor where the cabins are, but if it's busy and the guy is not taken, most likely, you won't either. as crude as it my sounds: tops and in high demand and if they are hung even harder to get them since they are always with a clients. 
 
As for Zurich's Pargonya, I was disappointed that there weren't as many guys as I expected, and most of them were socializing among themselves and old-time patrons. I only met two guys at Pargonya, while at Thermas, there were more varied and impressive boys  
I can’t wait to go back to Thermas but for Paragonya I will wait and only go if it is an easy trip, 

finally I have the time to report from trip to Barcelona, where I spent four days at Thermas followed by three days in Zurich. Despite feeling exhausted, I had an amazing time at Thermas, which is still a great option to meet guys at reasonable prices. € 50 and in some cases '€100, like always, I was upfront and clear , Depending on your needs and preferences, you can negotiate for more.
I was lucky to have a good set of guys that  joined me on a Wednesday, which is client day, and the place was packed with Venezuelans, Brazilians, Colombians, Cubans, mixed guys, Greeks, and a few Romanians. It was great to see that the place hasn't changed much. I even met some guys from previous trips who were all really nice.
The only challenge was having to make decisions when there were so many options on the weekends 
.I get the Extra rooms, the💶€10 ones, I prefer them for it’s clean sheets, and you can return the keys after paying for the total hours to get another fresh room/sheets. I recommend taking a room on Friday and Saturday, even if you're not going to use it for hours, since it gets busy, and rooms may not be available. I spent time with two guys, one of whom was Albanian and one from Venezuela. who I had met several times on previous trips. They also introduced me to their friends that they new were my type. On weekends, you can stay as long as you want, but most of the guys leave by 7 pm, and those remaining boys are usually seeking to get high.
there is a party that starts at midnight is called Crush is a dance party that Thermas host  every other Saturday, but it's one night for straight and another for gay people, and it was clear that it's not popular at for Thermas rentboys since is not for hiring.
It's challenging to keep up with specific guys' names, but once I got my locker key, I usually headed to the bar downstairs to grab a drink and wait for the guys to walk around. They're not pushy, so you can say hello and sometimes be introduced to their friends without any jealousy.
Some guys  hang out on the middle floor where the cabins are, but if it's busy and the guy is not taken, most likely, you won't either. as crude as it my sounds: tops and in high demand and if they are hung even harder to get them since they are always with a clients. 
 
As for Zurich's Pargonya, I was disappointed that there weren't as many guys as I expected, and most of them were socializing among themselves and old-time patrons. I only met two guys at Pargonya, while at Thermas, there were more varied and impressive boys  
I can’t wait to go back to Thermas but for Paragonya I will wait and only go if it is an easy trip, 

Leaving Barcelona.  Thermas was great a lot of fun. Paragonya, not so much 

Leaving Barcelona.  Thermas was great a lot of fun. Paragonya, not so much 

Thanks @tassojunioryou always helpful and resourceful. 
I just left Paragonya, I will do a more in-depth report once I have been there twice. 
the changes are small but nice. Now behind the stairs that go downstairs  is the new area : dry / Turkish sauna; a steam room  and the shower, that now are downstairs , a nice jacuzzi too  besides that, upstairs is all the same can you please PM? 
 

In a rainy Zürich better to shelter at Paragonya. 

Watching the Stock web feed this weekend, I see Jasper (yes with the huge cock) is dancing there again.  I don't know when he started back there as I don't watch the feed very frequently lately.  Some of you may remember Jasper as a popular Stock dancer pre-COVID.  He then seemed to have spent some of 2021/2022 in South Florida.  I saw him at Johnson's FTL in early 2022 I believe.  He has lost some of his size but still looks good.  He has pretty long hair now and his cock still gets rock hard on-stage😀. 
Just thought I'd pass on the info.

Yeah, he sent the first one on Monday and a few others during the week . 

It was yesterday 

Fan fiction is so interesting…

Wow. . Thanks for the report.  It came in handy during my insomnia  😝
The staff was /is  A+  Like the Sri Lanka manager.  he was so attentive and accommodating . Can’t wait to go back, tempted to go there instead of Prague in my upcoming Barcelona trip. 

And upstairs 😍 the memories 🤪🤪🤪  I went crazy 😜 so I have the boys  lining up taking turns with me, as I mentioned in another thread , I was able to get  some extra cash from the bar staff, using my cc

Can’t wait to be there. 

I'm not sure his phone number but the agent in Zurich has immediate contact with many of the newly available guys, at least Czechs. His number is often the one on several of the better-known Czech stars' ads and his English is fluent. The guys who work through him rarely handle any arrangements themselves because it's so time-consuming and they lose more than his 30% commission (good to know for repeats directly with the guy). Unfortunately, some ads are his alone in a bait-and-switch. But he's a "st8" former Bel Ami guy who quickly sets up meetings with the hardest to get hold of.  Also, many Czech guys "park" their ad location in Zurich even though they are at home in Czech. 

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

I've been to Barcelona and Prague- I can't recommend Barcelona enough. SO MANY HOT GUYS ! Prague also has a lot of hotties (at cheap rates) but the city itself isn't very nice or much fun

Up and Down is open (Up is newer and closes at night when Down opens). I've had good luck at UP in the day time. Of all crazy things they have a youth hostel upstairs with it's entrance through the bar. A dozen young 20's hostel guys hanging out all day mixed with an assortment of escorts, gay bartenders and hirers. "Unique"  place. OTOH Down's name is appropriate not just because it's in the basement next door. A half dozen to a dozen clients in a dark place with one or two not appealing escorts. And one is always "Prague Hero"? from Romeo who's ad as "29" is off by a digit.......but it's not the "9". Sometimes he puts on a nude free show on stage. In the dark from 25 feet he's attractive body-wise.  That's it unless some hard-up guy hears of the place and wanders in. The bartenders are famously very nice looking and friendly though. 
The new lapdance bar Melody is now X Club but the dancers are a long way from prime meat. There are a couple small locals basement gay bars around New Town South (around X Club) that have some trade but I've never been in them, just walked by. You'll do much better online, Hunqz, Romeo, Grindr etc. Actually you'll probably do better standing on any random street corner saying "hello". 
The hustlers in Vienna hang out in Stadpark in the center. I stay in the InterContinental on Stadpark. The lobby is like the social center of Vienna. There's a hustler bar that opens and closes often. It's in a new location now reopened and renamed Alt Lampe. 

Quebec City is friendlier and the boys at the lap dance bar get very very friendly. 

thanks, i will check it out, but i find CoM good also for Europe.  Also, i couldn't find the turn on the dark-mode settings in GGuides. I am a dark-mode junkie
 

I found out about GG a couple of months ago, while CoN has been a (somehow quiet) member for a couple of o years. 

The Stadtpark downtown has a number of hustlers. I stay at the InterContinental on it which is sort of a social center on the city in the lounge. There's a hustler bar that's open and closed a lot. It's now moved and renamed the "Old Lamp"?? "Alt Lampe"??. Haven't been there yet. That bar's been an iffy place for many years as far as being open. 

I canceled a Puerto Vallarta trip  
The more I saw about PV the more I knew wasn’t for me. Too crowded. 
 
so it is a lot of fun coming our way. The reopening of Paragonya. I was there in  November and it was a dream. And the staff was so welcoming.  
the manager let  me use my CC in his bar to get more cash  o.o. And the boys were amazing all types, for all tastes. 
I am sucker for pretty but masculine boys, Bel Ami meets old Sean Cody.  
 
Then Campus is promising a Daddy’s Corner with an all male  crow and dancers in a more private setting. I am ready to go the opening night, but is no news when that would be.  I am assuming in the Summer, can’t wait. 
 
About Paragonya, I was really surprised in how low key but sexy is that place. 
Do you guys know that the toilets at Paragonya have a bidet!!! 😳😳😳 and the seat is a self cleaning one! 
I am still in contact with a Bulgarian boy I met there and this BEAUTIFUL Swiss/Brazilian guy. He looks more Swiss but he is equipped and handled me as Brazilian 🤓 
I adventured to a porn movie theater. There was one guy hustling, but it was already too late, Swiss style 10 pm, so it was closing time. 
it was my first time in Zurich, the week before I was in BCN. Both Thermas ( 4 to 7 Pm) and Paragonya ( no on to 4 pm) are better daytime.  

The two sites are not related.
However, their histories are not parallel. The older members can bring more knowledge about this.

If you hunt in the US, you will find a lot more info about guys here on CoM.
If you are hunting in South East Asia or Brazil, you will hardly find anything new posted here, but tons over there on gayguides.

especially on weekends I found Thermas in BCN busy by noon. But during the week it is after-work hours starting at 4. we have to remember in EU these are saunas, not bars. one traditionally goes to a sauna after work until 9pm closing time.  Guys go to Zurich to make money in high-turnovers, not high prices. Outcalls are 150 and in sauna is 100. Beware Paragonya can be almost empty many times. Ask the clerk if it's worth paying the 35 for admission and he'll usually be honest if it's not good and even let you look. There are a couple gay bars next door. 

Are both sites related? Like a brother or something? I discovered gayguides  last October, but I wish they were connected so I don't have to choose what to post in each, or if repeat, copy, and paste,  what i posted here. For that reason I've never posted there since I'm pretty happy with here, CoM.  actually, i enjoy this site a lot