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@AJ Doyle I think that should be brought up before the appointment. I do not like a condom for oral and that would be a major influence in me hiring you. To not bring it up ahead of time is disingenuous to me.
 
Note: I’m not saying you shouldn’t perform oral without a condom if that’s your thing, but at least let the client know ahead of time.

@MaxSargent -- we spent a couple of hours together a while back -- besides skillz, you came across as a really good, genuine guy. I think that's reflected to some degree in your apology.
 
However, you crossed a line that IMHO can never be crossed. Posting a photo or personal information in a public forum, especially one as pervasive as Twitter, simply destroys any trust one might have in that particular escort or their colleagues generally. That bell can never be unrung. We have no idea what an escort who is prone to post uses as his criteria to disclose client information. The only thing we can do to protect ourselves is stay very far away.
 
Personally, I've had negative (and sometimes really bad) experiences with escorts, but don't post negative reviews out of concern of retaliation from a guy who at least has my first name and phone number. Professionally, I also freelance and (thankfully) frequently deal with new clients/potential clients. Flakes or knobheads trying to exploit my skills without ever intending to sign up or pay are, sadly but simply, a cost of doing business. There are ways to communicate bad actors to your colleagues without undermining trust in you or in your profession.
 
I'm glad you seem to have grown from this. But, I could never think of engaging your services again. I wish you well.

An absolute textbook example of penny-wise and pound foolish.

What bothers me more than what you actually did, was your smug and arrogant response. Lots of people respond that way too when they they've done something really wrong and don't want to give into the shame (especially when it's public). I can only hope that's what is going on with you because if not, then you are truly devoid of any conscience.
 
You aimed all of your frustration with all of the flakes you've encountered on just a few unfortunate souls. This guy ruined a few hours of your time, you may have ruined his life and he didn't deserve it. And did you stop to think at all not only about the dire consequences for him - both professionally and personally, but the serious collateral damage you may have cause as well? He could have children.
 
We ALL get frustrated with flakes whether there's some sort of transaction or not. I understand it must be all that more frustrating when those experiences aren't just limited to some weekends like it is with most of us 9-5'ers - and it's made all that more frustrating when that's how you pay your bills. However, I have news for you. We ALL experience the same kind, and same level of frustration in our own careers sometimes - be it not knowing that someone ordered the wrong part for an important project until it was too late or having finance upstairs lose your paperwork even though you emailed it, faxed it, and hand carried it. And what makes us professionals, is how we respond to it, not by throwing a tantrum and taking all of our toys home.
 
I agree with what OliverSaks said "
 
Yeah, like charging a deposit with whatever conditions you choose. Otherwise, if you're getting so frustrated in this career that you can't problem solve and instead invoke the nuclear option, perhaps you should think about doing something else.
 
Finally, you don't know me, so I don't really expect you to care or respect what I say, but it seems there are a lot of people on here who think fondly of you and were surprised by your actions. Look, you fucked up - and fucked up kind of really bad. So I hope you'll at least hear them.

Paying for time is a euphemism. You know it and the provider knows it. It is not a 'get out of jail free' card if the provider does not live up to his end of the bargain. Would you pay a dentist if his drill did not work (pun not intended!). If you can't speak Italian don't hire yourself out as an Italian teacher! Why is the client always expected to overlook deficiencies but the escort gets excused? I would still like to hear the justifications, excuses and suggestions from the escorts on this board.

I think asking the question is fair game, I would not bank my own safety on their answer. Some may not be truthful, some may not know (in other words, time between contracting something & being diagnosed/treated). Each of us has to become educated and decide our own risk tolerance, and what we consider safe.....then take whatever precautions you need to feel safe. Adjusting your behavior based on what people tell you is a losing game.
 
BTW the term "clean" is derogatory and not really PC anymore. Sex is a normal human function, and it only takes sex with one person to contract something. There are a million scenarios where people have contracted HIV or other STDs...to imply they are "dirty" is truly denigrating and disrespectful.

I was sort of wondering the same thing. For those who practice this, is it something I would learn while making an appointment? Or after our time together has begun ?
 
The reason I ask is that it’s not something I prefer and, while I’ve only encountered it with one gentleman, I’d have liked to have known about it in advance.

When do you bring up condom-for-oral with potential clients?

As a client, I'll just echo what MichBoyBlake said, you need to put one or two face pics up. If I don't see a face pic, or it's fuzzed out, I move on. As for rates, I expect to pay more in big coastal cities than cities in the middle of the country but there are exceptions to every rule. So welcome to the business!

That sounds a wee bit catty. Yes, I would be "predictably disappointed" (and have been from time to time) if I hired a sex worker to perform the services that he advertised he was able and willing to perform ("ten inches of rock-hard cock!" "multiple cummer!" "gallons of cum"), spent time before-hand communicating to him what was important to me and setting expectations, only to have him not deliver but still expect all of his pricey fee.
 
Why do so many people on this forum feel like it is ok to be taken advantage of by hucksters? We need to praise the good but also name and shame the bad - that's the beauty of this site. I am very glad that I submitted a negative review of a dishonest RM 'scort that hasn't even been published yet, but apparently he was contacted for a response and immediately took down his RM ad. If a few guys are not taken advantage of as a result, I am happy.

A true "professional" can keep an erection when asked. One to two experiences with not being able to top with his client (one would think) would instruct any real professional to be prepared next time and get Viagra (or Cialis or Levitra) and have handy when necessary. Age, body size, looks of the client has nothing to do with giving an escort a pass on maintaining an erection. If the escort has difficulty with a consistent erection, they shouldn't be in the business of prostitution (or at least not advertising their penis size or that they top).
 
 
FOR THE PROVIDERS READING THIS: Viagra, although expensive here in the US, is quite cheap from a Canadian pharmacy. First, go to your primary care doctor get a prescription for Viagra. Simply tell him/her that although young and seemingly shouldn't have this problem, once the condom goes on you lose sensitivity and lose the erection. Physicians (like me) prescribe Viagra for this problem all the time. Then find an online Canadian pharmacy where you will set up an account, and scan and email your prescription. They will mail you the medication and you're set to perform within 15-30 minutes as the onset of action of Viagra is just about that time. Twenty four 50 mg pills costs $53.39. That's $2.23/pill (yes, I looked it up on the online pharmacy website). Small overhead cost given you are being paid between $200-$300/hr. Just like you, I'm a professional and I'm expected to have my tools, my skills, my fund of knowledge and compassion ready when I am standing before my patient. And I assure you that I'm ready and prepared to meet my patients needs. You be ready, too, when being paid to perform. Otherwise, I'm having a challenging time calling you a professional but rather a joker.
 
Here is the link to one Canadian pharmacy I have sent my patients to (yes, I'm a physician). I have never had a patient report to me a bad experience with this pharmacy.
https://www.northwestpharmacy.com
 
 
ALL my love to the professional escorts out there. You are very much loved and appreciated.

For me I could never change my mind. You broke a code of confidentiality, by having a knee jerk reaction and doing something of this nature.
Who's to say you won't repeat this act again if something or someone comes along and upsets you again, and I have to agree as you now see this thread and this seems to be your livelihood damage control is in full effect.
"Once bitten shame on you, twice bitten shame on me".
No thanks.

Out of curiosity, why does it bother anybody who said it does if a provider is willing to lower their rate to make the deal, for lack of a better term? I get the mentality from the provider POV in a way.
 
I’ve lowered my rate for some clients when they’ve asked me to, as long as it’s not drastically lower from my norm (I only charge $200 an hour, which I think is pretty low here in NYC but since I’m new and there’s so many available escorts in the market). Now I’ll say I’ve ended conversations with guys who asked for me to only take half my rate and were speaking to me in a very rude way. But somebody who is speaking to me nicely and asking me to shave a few bucks off, and may turn into a regular customer? I’m willing to work with that.

Yeah, and what if he didn’t find this thread and realize that, instead of supporting him, we find what he did despicable? And, at first, he tried to defend an indefensible position, as well as try to SELL us something (read the PS in his first post). FOH!
 
Outing someone is NEVER OK and that bell cannot be “unrung.” To potentially damage someone’s life, marriage, safety, job and God knows what else because you were miffed that he wasted your precious time is unconscionable and a disgrace to your profession. An apology after realizing people are not with you on this and the damage has already been done is totally unacceptable.

Outing someone is more than a mistake.

Totally agree. I could never trust someone like this,therefor I would never hire him period

Max,
Thank you for your thoughtful comments and public apology. I appreciate your efforts to take ownership of our actions in front of the forum and not shy away.
 
That said, your actions shaken me to my core. In the dozens of encounters I’ve had with escorts, many have been extraordinary, a few bad, and a great number in between. I know there is a risk that I may pay for an experience I don’t enjoy. I research escorts looking for true professionals that have great reviews. Because I use this approach, I’ve NEVER really feared for my personal security until NOW (I know that sounds naive).
 
It sounds like you are taking a valuable lesson from all of this but it cannot be stated enough that the rules of discretion must be FIRST and foremost in every encounter. From a client perspective, I will probably be more gun shy now in hiring new escorts.

Max, I think you shot yourself in the foot on this one.
 
Live and learn.

Flakes happen to us on every single trip we make. Just this week we had a guy from Prague begin to arrange a meeting. He got right to the end where he books our flights, then complete silence. There is a large group of "clients" who will never become clients. But, we won't know that until they actually flake. Therefore, we take precautions to protect our investment of time and energy. First, we never get into a photo/video sharing frenzy. If they want that kind of interaction, we ask for payment. We've found the constant interaction with unending exchanges just prolongs the inevitable. It also is a way to weed out the fakers. Second, before we go anywhere at all, we request a deposit of at least 20%. Sometimes the flights themselves count as commitment and we will let that suffice. However, when a client isn't willing to put money into it up front, 99% of the time they will go silent.
 
Therefore, it is up to us as providers to count flakes as a business loss and move on when it happens. We know they exist and it is our fault if we get stuck. Outing them publicly would only serve to damage our credibility and make us seem vindictive. Neither of which is good for business.

Posting clients' phone numbers and photos on a Twitter is a very BOLD action. THIS alone will make me run away from Max as fast as I could.

It takes a lifetime to build a reputation and one stupid mistake to ruin it.

Max
Let me say first-off that I believe your account of the circumstances that you experienced with the problematic potential client & I am also willing to give you the benefit of the doubt such that you may at heart be a good person. I appreciate the fact that you posted a reply here & I also believe that there are always 2 sides to a story. In addition I understand your frustration with the circumstances you claim of the interaction with this client who flaked. That understanding is due to the fact that I have been on the receiving end of a provider who flaked on me at the last second as well as other providers who variously lied in a variety of ways or did not provide the services requested &/or promised. The bottom line is that frustration can go both ways.
That being said, what you did in not only providing a phone number(s) on your twitter account but also photos of a "flaky" client is nevertheless completely unacceptable & crosses the line of expected conduct. Deal with it on the "Bad Boys" site which you mentioned and is basically an industry insider's site & not via twitter, a method you used which has far greater public exposure.
As seen in the responses here, what you did is viewed very unfavorably by the membership here at the Daddy's site. It serves to make potential clients more wary of any involvement with a provider.
You must consider that the photos you loaded on twitter may not even actually be of the person with whom you had the negative interaction.
Please be aware Max that in creating this thread I am not meaning to single you out given that there are other providers who have outed client information before with one of them actually named elsewhere in the responses on this thread Bear in mind that that other provider has a terrible reputation here in this forum for that & other behaviors; a reputation that I would hate to see be assigned to you.
Be well Max

I’m sure that of the multitude of options, this was nearly at the bottom of the list. I’m sure it afforded some momentary satisfaction, but it does not paint you in a good light, no matter how inconvenienced you were.
 
Post to badboy report or similar and move the fuck along - now you’re in company with Austin wolf and Brodie Sinclair...

This is an example of why I will never ever share face pics, my real name, or even real mobile number.

I made the mistake of having bareback sex once with a hook up. This was over a decade ago when you still had to wait for months before an HIV test would be conclusive. The stress of living in fear for 6 months and then waiting another 2 weeks for the test results scared me straight. There is no guy hot enough for me put myself through that stress.