NYMassageAddict

I don’t want to finish myself off after a massage ever. I had one massage near 27/6 once. I think the spa might be closed now. Anyway the masseur gives me full massage then at the end he places my hand on my cock. I so wanted to not do it, but I also found it kinda hot that he watched me stroke myself off, so I went for it. For a one time situation, it was kinda hot but wouldn’t want that to happen again.

Never thought of the “maybe he will be a regular” motivation. I always say “never been” because I’m hoping someone aims to hook me or give me a great first time experience.

Sorry I don’t remember his name. I’m not a frequent customer these days so I don’t care as much. It wasn’t Jimmy.

I’ve never had a bad experience at Greenhouse. I won’t claim the boys there are the best or cutest in the world but I think this is a smear campaign by another spa. I’ve never been hit up for “pay me good tip?” during the massage and always left happy. On the contrary, my last visit to Time Square Spa resulted in a guy suggesting “if you want massage there, you’ll give good tip right?” I don’t mind, as it wasn’t a specific amount requested and I did plan to give a nice tip anyway.

That’s almost EXACTLY how I want a massage. It is beautiful.

Anyone have any spots on the east side (I’m familiar with Shangrila and Utopia)? I’m open to a spa that may also have female staff in addition to men. Or even solo providers. I’m feeling especially motivated for a rub soon and would be very convenient.

There are certain spas mostly found in NYC though a couple in LA and many out of the country that are simply known for providing more than therapeutic. In those places, you don’t need to do a thing. Lay back, relax and enjoy the ride. The only advice I’d give is to undress completely and don’t put a towel over yourself before the masseur enters. Obviously the only other thing one can do is to become erect when you are asked to turn over. That’s usually all a masseur needs to do the rest. In more standard spas, a happy ending may occur but one should never plan on it and never ask. Just let the time go, moans or sighs can help. Move your hips when the masseur gets close to inner thighs or buttocks areas and hope he is feeling you.

That’s why I used different assumptions of average $40 tip. I think some tip $20 and others tip $40 up to $60. Netting out at an average of $40. I don’t know if these numbers are realistic or not - just some educated guesses. I imagine Monday/Tuesday day shift is pretty slow. Maybe 1-2 customers. But hopefully on weekends they can do 6.

If by “scrub” you mean table shower, I’d try Energy Men Spa. I’d just massage and fun, Time Square.

My math says they massage 4 guys in a day. Work 6 days a week. They take $20 of the massage price and average $40 tip. That’s $240 a day x 6 days is $1440 a week and $5,760 a month. X 12 months that’s ~ $70,000 tax free. Let’s call it the equivalent of a $100,000/year job if someone is taxed. They are “working” 4 hours a day. Waiting another 5-6 for customers killing time on their phone. The point isn’t to get people to tip less. Just laying out facts that these guys aren’t to feel sorry for. They aren’t licensed. Most are operating without a visa and aren’t paying taxes. It’s not a bad gig.

So I’ve done four hand massage before and usually ended up regretting it. But I wanted to see if anyone knew of any spa duos who are especially talented at it that I should try. Something about two guys worshipping my body and ... really turns me on.

Anyone ever used a tool like this on you? Unfortunately this is only a preview but you’ll see why the title is called SHOOTER

So I’ve had my share of massages and I would agree if you’re not seasoned it might feel really odd to say “no thanks” when you see who you got, BUT, after more than a few misses and spending hundreds of my own dollars when I’m looking for a particular experience, I’ve grown more bold to say something like “sorry I was hoping for someone more (insert word young, muscular, thin, etc). At the end of the day, you’re a paying customer. While it may feel weird at first, you’ll find it was worth it to get what you want. I’ve found the Masseurs understand and move on. They are also not emotionally attached and understand the game.

Same guy from 58/1.

I had Jerry who said he only works one night a week - that was a Thursday. He was very talented.

This is a very long and thought out response but I don’t understand it. You suggest these people want to be taxed for retirement? i don’t disagree entirely but as many are undocumented to work (either here on student visas or no visa at all), their options for employment are usually restaurants cash only or massage. I’m not suggesting their service is comparable to a restaurant service but still those are the options for many.

I’d trust your first instinct of saying it’s none of my business. Do you ask friends how they file their taxes? Grocery store employees? Servers? I think it’s a fair assumption to make that in a cash business with employees who may or may not be documented, that they aren’t reporting all of their income. But even then, unless you work for the IRS I don’t know why it should matter to you.

How many massages do you think a masseur does on a non-peak day vs a peak day? 2 on a non-peak day? 3? 4-5 on a peak day? Let’s say he does 2 on a Monday - Thursday type day. Those days he made $80 per your $20 tip example. On a weekend (Friday - Sunday) they do 4 that would be $160 on those days. A 6 day week would net you $240 + $480 or $720. Mind you this is also tax free (if we want to talk about fair, why am I responsible for paying taxes and they are not?) $720 a week works out to be $34,000/year no tax. I’m not suggesting this is a luxury life they are living but considering it requires no education thats an interesting way of looking at it. The other more realistic way is that on a Monday at 1 pm, they need to incent customers to visit so they reduce their prices.

Terry or Jerry.

It isn’t a “discount” it’s what the market will bear. That’s the glory of a free market. If they want $100 but need to discount to get customers, then the discount price is actually the right price (at least at that moment). No one in business reduces price out of the kindness of their heart.

This goes back to the old question of - if the value of something is greater than the price is, they should charge more. I agree that a $20 tip is bare minimum, but people who lecture that a tip should be 100% (or $60) or more are also over-tipping in my mind. But that’s their right just as it is someone’s right to tip $20-30.

Energy Men Spa on 23rd has table shower and most Masseurs are not going to do extra work (e.g., a hard massage). They will rub and tug.

Steam works in Chicago is an excellent spot. Very clean. Huge. Wide variety of experiences from a maze, private rooms, sling, elevated area with a pit in the middle so guys are at penis height while standing, a huge jacuzzi etc. Best time is weekend evening but it is worth the small investment.

He’s very attractive and not an ounce of fat on his body. If you have hangups about what he does for fun - not with you - then that’s your own issue.

Please tell me where someone can make more than $40 per hour on the street.