Epigonos

Went out to dinner with Ryan Steel and then spent two incredible hours playing around with him back at his West Hollywood apartment. He was a totally interactive sweetheart. Would hire him again in a heartbeat.

Yea the guy looks great BUT he isn't into much. He does NOT list anal, kissing, or oral as things he is into.

If I had a brain in my head, which I obviously do not, I would not touch this thread with a ten-foot pole. I started posting on this site during the final two years of Hooboys tenure. It can be seen, on any of my posts, that I contributed to Bill (Daddy) for several years. Now with that background out of the way I would like to state that frankly I would prefer to see this site die AND a new one, using the raw materials available here – started.

LTD I've been hiring escorts for twenty years and I by far and away prefer Outcalls. However, I have done incalls BUT only with escorts I already know well and trust. There are no absolutes.

Just think the round trip Uber fare from midtown New York to JFK is now around $300. The the round trip airfare from JFK to Palm Springs is currently around $600. Compared to the Uber fare the airfare to Palm Springs seems like a steal. Another good reason NOT to live in midtown New York!!!!!

I have been hiring escorts for twenty years and I usually require out calls. This is not rocket science. When I contact an escort: 1.) I ask him if he does outcalls to my area, 2.) I tell him that I am interested in approximately a three-hour arrangement. One hour for a meal and two for play time. and 3.) I ask him if he is interested in that type of arrangement and if so, what his fee would be. At this point the ball is in the escorts court. He has sufficient information to determine all his costs regarding our possible get together. Thus, I expect him to provide me with a single figure NOT an itemized estimate. If and when he does I determine if his fee appears reasonable to me. If it does, we continue making arrangements to meet. If it does not, I thank him for his time and break off communication. I have traveled with escorts on a number of occasions. In those situations, I certainly pay all costs; airfare, hotels, meals, and all other costs except for personal items the escort chooses to purchase. Comparing airfare to Uber fare is ridiculous and absurd.

Azdr0710 is correctly, absolutely, and totally right on here. Spending an successful extended amount of time with an escort requires a considerably amount of trust from both parties and that comes only with previously spent time together. That's not saying it can't work on the first time together but it is taking one hell of a chance.

Trio has a private room with its own bar. In 2020 we were scheduled to use that room which would have allowed for much more mingling prior to sitting down to dinner. Unfortunately the 2020 Weekend was canceled and the room isn't currently in use. Hopefully it will be a possibility again in 2022.

Jjkrkwood I'll state this right up front. Most of us who attend the Palm Springs Weekend are anything but "physically" beautiful people, young and with great bodies. We represent a cross section of regular guys mostly in their 50's, 60's, 70's and even 80's who post on this site. Traditionally those with beautiful bodies and huge cocks are the escorts in attendance. If the above information isn't sufficient to assure possible future attendees that they don't have to be gorgeous to attend then I'm afraid they are simply out of luck. A group photograph of the all the client types smiling and waving at the camera (or something similar) simply isn't going to happen.

BSR and jjkrkwood I personally have mixed feeling about an escort group photo being posted. I don't like the very idea of having cameras present which is a bit absurd, on my part, because we all have phones capable of taking photos. Frankly the idea will have to be run by our host and he, and he alone, will make the call as he does regarding all aspects of the Weekend. Do keep in mind that Oliver is a benevolent monarch when it comes to the operation of the Weekend.

Hopefully, there will not be any photographs posted of the party. One of the long-standing Weekend rules has been no cameras allowed. Some of our participants are very concerned about maintaining anonymity.

If he can get those fees for what he is offering more glory to him. However, for me there are far too many guys out there who look just as good and do far more for far less so I will definitely pass.

Wait a minute. The one thing Epigonos does NOT now have and NEVER will have is a spouse. Epigonos lives alone and doesn't cook breakfast even for himself!!!!!

I would be willing to bet that the survey was taken before the Canadian covid19 vaccination fiasco. Canada has done a terrible job getting its citizens vaccinated. Because of poor national government planning the various vaccines are in short supply. Canada has no firms capable of manufacturing the vaccines in the country and thus must compete on the open international market and take whatever vaccine it can get, whenever it can get it.

I'm going to make an uneducated prediction here. If Oliver decides to host the Palm Springs Weekend again next year I would guess that it would be the weekend of April 9th and 10th. The Weekend would never be planned to coincide with Easter Sunday which in 2022 is April 17h thus that weekend is out. Oliver always departs Palm Springs for the drive home to the Midwest on May 1st and needs time to pack and prepare so it would NOT be held after Easter. Weather also plays a factor so I wouldn't expect to have it held in either February or March -- those months have frequent spells of cool weather not particularly conducive to pool events. Please keep in mind that I'm guessing here and NOT speaking for Oliver.

Well ice chests are packed with food and boxes are packed with cooking utensils and platters. Jawjatec and I have our bags backed and are about to leave for the drive to Palm Springs. See you all soon.

I have said it many times before and I will say it again. If the idea of an escort learning one’s real identity is so terrifying that one cannot stand the very idea, then one should NOT be hiring escorts. I have never understood those guys who purchase throw away phones or have a separate escort phone to protect their identity. If an escort, or anybody else for that matter, wants to learn one’s real identity they can do so. I have, in twenty years of hiring escorts, NEVER attempted to hide my real identity from any escort I have hired. I give them my real name in my first contact email or text. I have also never had a problem in doing this. Again, the only way to guarantee anonymity is not to hire escorts.

During my last visit to Paris I rented an apartment, for three weeks, in the Marais. Great location with outstanding bakeries and cheese shops nearby. Walked nearly everywhere. I am a huge believer in renting apartments for two or three week in cities like London, Paris, Madrid, or Rome. Using these cities as a base one can make overnight visits to all sorts of interesting places. From Madrid I once flew up to Santiago de Compostela for three nights. During one of my last trips to France I rented a car and drove a thousand miles through Burgundy and the Loire Valley. Tired to spend at least two nights in each stop over. I absolutely LOVE driving back roads through the French countryside.

Every city has tourist traps. There is no doubt that the Grevin Wax Museum (Paris’ Madame Tussauds) is a tourist trap. However, on the other hand San Chappelle is one of the most glorious creations of man. Both are in Paris. Some would consider taking a dinner cruise of the Seine to be a tourist trap experience. I found, doing it once, a wonderfully romantic experience.

Over the last couple of decades, I have learned that I cannot judge a city by its airport. The reason is that probably 90% of all big city airports are terrible and are in inconvenient locations. The following examples should suffice. Kennedy, LAX, Miami, Houston, London (Heathrow), Amsterdam (horrible name), Paris, Milan, Bangkok, and Rome. This is assuredly not a complete list. They are all in impossible locations and are nightmares to navigate. The only big city airport that is nice is, in my opinion, Singapore.

Hopefully someone will bring him to one or all of the Palm Springs Weekend events.

I have a love hate relationship with St. Petersburg. I love the architecture of the various palaces and churches. I love the beautiful floors, ceilings and the interior décor of the various palaces and churches. I love many of the wonderful gardens and fountains. I love several of the museums. There are several palaces, churches, and museums that I did not have time to visit and would thus like to go back for a few additional days. I hate the city as a city. I am a city guy and love wondering around and getting lost in a new city. I love dropping into a coffee bar for a cup of coffee or having lunch in out of the way restaurant. I love window shopping in the afternoon and dropping into interesting shops. Unfortunately, NONE of these city activities are readily available in St. Petersburg or any other Russian city for that matter. I found myself getting claustrophobic in St. Petersburg. I do not speak Russian and very few of the St. Petersburg residents speak English which created a serious barrier.

My memories of Yosemite go back to the summer of 1950. That summer my family spend a week camping at Camp Curry. We certainly could not afford the Ahwahnee Hotel. We continued the practice for the next nine years. We carried our own four-person tent, Coleman Stove, Coleman Lanterns and two or three ice chests. That first year we met several other families camping near our camp site. My parents were quite social, particularly my mother, so by the end of our vacation she had become well acquainted with several of our neighboring camper families. For the next several years three or four families planned their vacations for the same time. During the day we kids played at the camp site, went on nature walks with rangers or went swimming in a pool at the camp. The men frequently went fishing in the Kern River or sat around the camp site shooting the shit and drinking beer, the women usually sat around as well and gabbed and prepared group meals. My most vivid memory of those visits was the 9 pm Fire Falls. Burning embers were spilled off Glacier Point to the valley floor 3000 feet below. It created an incredible site – a ribbon of fire. It was accompanied by a loudspeaker recording of the Indian Love Call sung my Nelson Eddy and Janette McDonald. The Park Service ended the Fire Falls around 1968 claiming that it was an unnatural occurrence in a natural site and was thus inappropriate.

The way to beat the crowds in places like Yosemite and Yellowstone is to stay in a hotel or lodge in the center of the park. Doing that one can get up early and get out before the crowds hit the road. If one is up and out right after sunrise they will have the place to themselves until around 10 a.m. One can then return to the hotel/lodge and have a leisurely breakfast while the crowds inundate the place. The same is true of the late afternoon. The day crowds usually depart around three or four and the parks become peaceful and wonderful again.

Unfortunately his rentmen ad doesn't list anything he is into. Without that information I'm not interested. I know, I might ask him BUT why should I have to?