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    KennF got a reaction from Populist Fury in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    I think it is because people like to understand motives. Except on very rare occasions, no one does something for nothing. Even on those times where they appear to do it for nothing, they are getting some personal satisfaction.
     
    If the site is costing someone money, then I would anticipate either (a) they have a lots of time and money to waste, (b) they have a NFP benefactor; © it is a hobby that will be dropped when the time/money gets too much, (d) it will be sold to someone (maybe with less scruples), (e) they are going to monetize it in someway, or (f) something else that I don't yet understand.
     
    I don't think I'd be "more happy if [you] start charging", but at least then I'd understand the business model.
     
    It is very hard to believe that something that is costing in perpetuity is being done altruistically. And even harder when you consider that there are multiple people involved in the site's operations/management.
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    KennF got a reaction from stop in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    I think it is because people like to understand motives. Except on very rare occasions, no one does something for nothing. Even on those times where they appear to do it for nothing, they are getting some personal satisfaction.
     
    If the site is costing someone money, then I would anticipate either (a) they have a lots of time and money to waste, (b) they have a NFP benefactor; © it is a hobby that will be dropped when the time/money gets too much, (d) it will be sold to someone (maybe with less scruples), (e) they are going to monetize it in someway, or (f) something else that I don't yet understand.
     
    I don't think I'd be "more happy if [you] start charging", but at least then I'd understand the business model.
     
    It is very hard to believe that something that is costing in perpetuity is being done altruistically. And even harder when you consider that there are multiple people involved in the site's operations/management.
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    KennF reacted to + José Soplanucas in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    It is clearly spelled in the FAQ (last time I read them a couple of months ago) that the site will turn into charging to the escorts in some moment. It is a common business model in start ups, you start offering a service for free, in the process adjusting your site to your market needs, and once you grew enough you start monetizing.
    So dear friends from Rentboy.pro, let's be completely honest and share that the volunteer and vocational work is just the beginning, the site will become a commercial enterprise.
     
    I am actually planning to do something similar with my blog. I started it just like a hobby to have fun, then found out there is an unexpected interest and potential market. So I just changed my original plans recently. I am planning to keep growing a few months more as an open blog to then add more services and charge a fee. The plan is that in some moment in the second half of this year you will have to pay a very moderate monthly fee to full access to reviews and media (pictures, interviews, and amateur home made porn).
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    KennF reacted to stop in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    ok so if you have all of those people on staff how are you paying them? what exactly is your business model to turn a profit if there is no income and only expenses.
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    KennF reacted to coriolis888 in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    Color me dumb!
     
    As stated above, "the site is not commercial, we don’t charge guys for ads, we don’t sell anything, do not sell even advertisement. We do not collect any personal information. No need to create a client profile on Rentboy.pro and send your e-mail to us. Just enjoy your privacy, browse the guys and contact them directly via their phone numbers."
     
    How can the site stay in business?
     
    Unless there exists a benefactor who generously donates money to keep the site going, how are the site's employees and other expenses paid to run the site?
     
    Just a curious person who works in the business world that is not familiar with the described type business model.
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    KennF reacted to + azdr0710 in RENTBOY.PRO WEBSITE   
    a few weeks ago, I decided I was taking a "wait and see" approach to this new upstart.......
     
    I now seem to be liking the new site and the posts by the rep here on the forum seem sincere.....
     
    the rep claims they don't charge providers, don't take advertising, blah, blah......
     
    soooooo, what's the catch??!!
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    KennF got a reaction from HotWhiteThirties in What do ypu think of onlyfans?   
    Depends on what you think the purpose of onlyfans is, for me.
     
    I haven't found a frame of thought that shows a value for me, yet. It wouldn't be too onerous, except that I know that the site gets a portion of the fees, yet they do nothing for that content.
     
    When I think of it as a site to follow someone I admire and like, I don't see where it is too much different from Twitter, except that I have to pay monthly for the pleasure of seeing the content.
     
    When I think of it as a porn site for a particular person, the fee seems of lower value when compared to other sites.
     
    When I think of it as a search engine/marketing tool, I don't see the business model for it.
     
    If someone has found a good value for it, I'd love to hear about it.
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    KennF got a reaction from marylander1940 in Traveling: Why is it that more and more clients can't host?   
    If you are taking out a hotel room for someone else (or letting them stay), the way to handle it is to arrange for the payment of the room charges in advance. If you want to let them stay for a day or two extra, that's fine as well.
     
    When he arrives, he should put a credit card on file for incidentals.
     
    At least that's how I arrange it for people we bring in for business, whether they are customers, suppliers, or interviewees.
     
    Just a thought.
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    KennF got a reaction from + DickyF in Clients acting out...is it hate?   
    The public sucks, and not in a good way.
     
    Unfortunately, the bad experiences stick out more than the good ones. Mostly because the bad ones disrupt our lives and plans. It is worse, because clients are rarely reviewed.
     
    There's the standard 80/20 rule. 10% of the people are outstanding. 10% are disaster. 80% are okay but may shift depending on the situation.
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    KennF reacted to + Tarte Gogo in Be careful of what you tell other members   
    If I am going to criticise an escort, I am not planning to ever see that escort again.
    So why should I care that the escort knows if I didn’t enjoy the encounter?
    Share away my PMs, I won’t worry about it.
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    KennF got a reaction from marylander1940 in When escorts cancel at the last minute   
    I don't automatically assume that a provider is lying when they say they are sick and cancel last minute.
    I've gotten sick and thought I'd be okay, only to feel worse as the day approached. I feel it is better to cancel then pass along my cold.
     
    I expect them to take me at face value, so I should I take them at face value.
     
    If the escort is cancelling because they got another (higher paying) job, then fine. Just because I accept they excuse, doesn't mean I ignore the fact that his reliability is not stellar.
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    KennF got a reaction from + Tarte Gogo in Threesomes with 2 escorts   
    I'd be more inclined to hire only if the extra fee was for him to find and pay for the third. I'm completely okay if the escort has a guy he regularly works with and wants to collect a combined rate.
     
    As is, I don't know what value-add would justify a 67% upcharge. What service does he provide in threesome that he doesn't on a one-on-one?
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    KennF got a reaction from sexymonk in Threesomes with 2 escorts   
    I'd be more inclined to hire only if the extra fee was for him to find and pay for the third. I'm completely okay if the escort has a guy he regularly works with and wants to collect a combined rate.
     
    As is, I don't know what value-add would justify a 67% upcharge. What service does he provide in threesome that he doesn't on a one-on-one?
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    KennF reacted to Deadlift1 in Clients acting out...is it hate?   
    I have learned in business that if a client is a dick prior to signing the papers he will be a dick to deal with after.
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    KennF reacted to + sync in Clients acting out...is it hate?   
    It takes intense resolve to maintain contentedness when dealing with the general public, just ask anyone who works/has worked in a customer service environment.
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    KennF got a reaction from caliguy in Threesomes with 2 escorts   
    I'd be more inclined to hire only if the extra fee was for him to find and pay for the third. I'm completely okay if the escort has a guy he regularly works with and wants to collect a combined rate.
     
    As is, I don't know what value-add would justify a 67% upcharge. What service does he provide in threesome that he doesn't on a one-on-one?
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    KennF reacted to former lurker in The Ex BFE   
    Couldn't disagree more. The "pendulum", if there is one, on this site is all the way on the client side. Escorts get no slack for cancelling (because the client was "counting" on being serviced; escorts are judged on the authenticity of their photos and their "honesty"; there's a strict "I don't pay in advance of service" "rule"; if an escort states a preference for the type of client he prefers, he's excoriated for being racist or ageist or a body fascist.
     
    Let's face it: escorts are human beings, and they are in a business fraught with legal and health risks. They often have to spend a good deal of time dealing with potential but not eventual clients testing them out through texts, calls, skype, etc. All of this may seem reasonable from the perspective of us clients, but not so much from the other side. And, at least on this site, there seem to be rules set in stone that protect the client but not so much the escort.
     
    So, I'll conclude this post by restating, the people who escort are just as human as the people who hire.
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    KennF reacted to sexymonk in The Ex BFE   
    Yes. The action from the boy is unjustified and needs discussion. That is immature act and I am not supporting that act!
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    KennF reacted to + Gar1eth in The Ex BFE   
    Didn’t the OP also write that after meals, when I am assuming they were alone, the escort ate quickly and bolted off?
     
    Gman
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    KennF got a reaction from youngboldone in The Ex BFE   
    I have attended many functions in my life I didn't want to go, but had to for business. I made the most of the situation and did what was expected/required. At worst, the escort would have had to put on a façade of a smile and make polite small talk avoiding anything of substance.
     
    You may not agree with whether or not a client 'should' ask for a particular experience. However, whether or not he should have asked for a particular fantasy, is different from the fact that he did, and that the escort agreed to it. (As for a why, I can think of dozens of reasons why a client might ask for a social event.)
     
    The escort was engaged to pay attention to the client's needs/wants, not to be social butterfly, ignore his client, embarrass him, or make a scene, so the age of the group is irrelevant.
     
    The 'boy' was not asked to go out with 'friends'. The 'escort' was employed to go out with the client while out with 'client's friends'.
     
    Most escorts I've known are able to focus on the client's need/desire incredibly well and I have the utmost respect for the difficult work that they do with such grace. I envy their ability to be able to gel so well with so many different types of peoples and situations. It is skill I've come to admire, which in this case was lacking.
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    KennF got a reaction from + bashful in The Ex BFE   
    I have attended many functions in my life I didn't want to go, but had to for business. I made the most of the situation and did what was expected/required. At worst, the escort would have had to put on a façade of a smile and make polite small talk avoiding anything of substance.
     
    You may not agree with whether or not a client 'should' ask for a particular experience. However, whether or not he should have asked for a particular fantasy, is different from the fact that he did, and that the escort agreed to it. (As for a why, I can think of dozens of reasons why a client might ask for a social event.)
     
    The escort was engaged to pay attention to the client's needs/wants, not to be social butterfly, ignore his client, embarrass him, or make a scene, so the age of the group is irrelevant.
     
    The 'boy' was not asked to go out with 'friends'. The 'escort' was employed to go out with the client while out with 'client's friends'.
     
    Most escorts I've known are able to focus on the client's need/desire incredibly well and I have the utmost respect for the difficult work that they do with such grace. I envy their ability to be able to gel so well with so many different types of peoples and situations. It is skill I've come to admire, which in this case was lacking.
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    KennF reacted to Chelo in Cum for EXTRA   
    I know escorts are not a cumming machine. But i really can’t help but get annoyed if they ask me $$$ for them to cum. Like if i hired you and charged me $300 i expect your load is part of it. Am i too greedy? Lol
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    KennF got a reaction from MscleLovr in The Ex BFE   
    I have attended many functions in my life I didn't want to go, but had to for business. I made the most of the situation and did what was expected/required. At worst, the escort would have had to put on a façade of a smile and make polite small talk avoiding anything of substance.
     
    You may not agree with whether or not a client 'should' ask for a particular experience. However, whether or not he should have asked for a particular fantasy, is different from the fact that he did, and that the escort agreed to it. (As for a why, I can think of dozens of reasons why a client might ask for a social event.)
     
    The escort was engaged to pay attention to the client's needs/wants, not to be social butterfly, ignore his client, embarrass him, or make a scene, so the age of the group is irrelevant.
     
    The 'boy' was not asked to go out with 'friends'. The 'escort' was employed to go out with the client while out with 'client's friends'.
     
    Most escorts I've known are able to focus on the client's need/desire incredibly well and I have the utmost respect for the difficult work that they do with such grace. I envy their ability to be able to gel so well with so many different types of peoples and situations. It is skill I've come to admire, which in this case was lacking.
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    KennF reacted to Reluctant Daddy in The Ex BFE   
    If, by high maintenance, you mean that I expected a provider to deliver on the services agreed on and paid for, then yes, by all means consider me extremely high maintenance.
     

     
    The only different situation from previous hires was that of the dinner with friends. Something that was discussed and agreed upon 3 weeks prior to the actual engagement. I ended up altering my plans with friends and did a fast breakfast with them alone instead.
     
    Sorry, I’m not out to destroy this provider or his reputation. This was a series of events that unfolded for me with him during this particular engagement. It happened, for whatever reason. My original post was to set forth what happened, and to pose a question as to whether I should try to salvage this business relationship or to walk away and call it a lesson learned.
     
    In my very short time of hiring, I’ve learned that being thorough and discussing expectations is certainly not a guarantee of delivery.
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    KennF got a reaction from caliguy in The Ex BFE   
    Absolutely there is more to the story and that we are seeing this through the lens of one person's perspective. Every story has at least three sides to it.
     
    A good escort makes sure there aren't communication breakdowns and avoids disappointing the client.
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