Rod Hagen

I don't want to make you feel like shit, but unless the masseur states he prefers massage done on a bed, or simply doesn't have a table, bed massages, instead of table massages, are a crippling strain on the masseurs back and general body. It would surprise me when, occasionally, a client would prefer to not use the cradle. OUCH!

When I was young I was amazed that some men hired me once a week, and sometimes I'd also see them additionally for lunch or coffee or this or that. Then, in 2012 I found a non-sexual masseur who trained at the same school I did a decade earlier, but is light years ahead of me in skill (though I would say our intuition is about level), and I found myself hiring him nearly weekly until lockdown 8 years later. And I don't have money, at all. But, I kinda needed him. So, what surprised the young me, made complete sense at 40.

I know that this is a thread about providers who rim, but I just want to memorialize a friend/client of mine who passed away last summer. I have a rim chair and one of our favorite things was for me to sit in it, him underneath. I'd have my coffee, and we could stay like that for nearly an hour. My butt would be so sore from sitting and so happy from liking. His neck would NOT be sore because we knew JUST the right pillow to put under his head. HAPPY DAYS!

Amazing. Until reading this thread, it never would have occurred to me that potential clients who see my reviews might wonder why I didn't respond to the reviews and perhaps see it as a shortcoming on my part. Incredible how we all live in our own heads!

Definitely send a discreet text, with your name. He may be working but not advertising (that's me briefly now) and if he's not working you can meet up for lunch or coffee to convince him to keep seeing you...I mean to see how he is doing :-)

As I've tried to say every time someone pulls out that chestnut, that's just some shit a character said, poetically, to round out his character. He's not real. It's not like he's Suze Oreman (is she real? I know her teeth can't be, except maybe Real expensive). It seems like a life lesson, and maybe it is to a degree, that doesn't mean it applies in all, many, most, situations.

I have relied on the kindness of client-friends many times. Without my closest client//friends I'd probably be homeless, or have had to resort to a real job (shudder!). And yes, it could make me feel like a worthless whore to have to ask for help. At the very least I feel a BIT disappointed in myself. But Jesus Christ no matter how awkward I feel I continue to thank them, years later. I'd never ghost someone who helped me just because I feel embarrassed. Who would. Someone who isn't doing well. Sucks dude, nice of you to help him. VERY nice of you to still be concerned.

You may see someone reliably, ie once or twice a year when you visit his city, but for shorthand lets tag regulars as once a month or more. Reliables are good too!

Thank you very much, I hadn't read about this study/finding. Very interesting to me, and it was great that they quoted Dean Hammer at the end. I loved his study, and I NEVER understood why gays were so opposed to him and his finding/hypothesis. I have a hard time reconciling Bogaert's Y Chromosome finding/hypothesis, which makes sense, with Dean Hammer's XQ28 ( I used to have that T-shirt!). And so I asked Perplexity, which told me this (but I still don't see the connection): In summary, Bogaert's and Hamer's studies complement each other by providing a more comprehensive understanding of the biological underpinnings of male homosexuality, involving both genetic and maternal immune factors. Their combined research supports the view that sexual orientation has a biological basis, rather than being solely a matter of choice or social/environmental influences.

I have friends in other cities who send me their, unanswered, initial messages to local escorts to ask if I can see anything wrong with their initial message. DO NOT stress that you said something to upset the escort. Everyone above is right, for some reason it's become more common for escorts/masseurs to simply never respond. And if you live in LA, London, NYC. It's easy to move on. If you live in Bend, OR and there are only a couple escorts, it become trickier because you have to agonize over how and when to reach out to him again. Sucks. People can suck.

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Pub Transport, absolutely. Bikes in the city, not so much.

I go days without looking at the RM app/page. I do not go days w/o looking at text. If the convo stays on RM Chat, I won't keep up. That may be part of their motivation to move it to text, to not seem as if they are ignoring you. Also, it's a good way to monetize the relationship, you'll likely feel compelled to make an actual appointment if the convo is via Text.

I've been Mountain Biking for 30 + years. I have two bikes hanging from my ceiling. I'm also not sure road biking belongs in major cities and feel very conflicted about it. I think I land on the "Your not out in rural America so don't act as if you are." I mean, they lost 71 metered sites just so people can what? Bike?

Very sorry to hear that. He was certainly doing crucial, difficult work.

Although it's rated well, this seems awful. Has anyone (tried to) watched it? Is there any gay content? I'm guessing very little. https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B8NC4TD1/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

I know someone :-)

I took a screen shot of it. Amazing.

Thank you. I didn't know about this. The script writer, Patrick Gale, is a writer I admire very much. Look forward to watching this.

Just found this guy. "Ope! Sneak right past ya."

You guys watching Sugar and/or Ripley? I'm enjoying both, although Ripley seems super padded. There's a reason Purple Noon and The Talented Mr. Ripley were 2 hours long. Still Ripley is GORGEOUSLY shot. The final shot of him in the second episode, I mean how do you do that? Andrew Scott is handsome and damn sexy. But he's not beautiful, and yet that final shot. WOW. I can't find the shot online, but WOW. Sugar. I've always been annoyed with Colin Ferrel because I'm almost never attracted to beautiful guys. But he knocks me out, every time. So beautiful. So sexy. The show is stupid, and according to a NYTimes review it changes from a very watchable LA Film Noir mashup to something else, the reviewer wouldn't say what. I'm guessing it becomes a SciFi. Anyway, both men are so fucking sexy. And so far they are well-made shows. Watch Sugar - Apple TV+ TV.APPLE.COM An enigmatic private detective struggles with personal demons as he investigates the disappearance of a Hollywood producer’s beloved granddaughter. Watch RIPLEY | Netflix Official Site WWW.NETFLIX.COM A grifter is drawn into a world of wealth and privilege after taking a unique job in Italy. But to seize the life he wants, he must build a web of lies.

Oh I read Ravelstein....didn't like it, really wanted to. Don't remember why. Hope you do. I did not know that was his final novel.

I can't believe I'm going to have to subscribe to STARZ, temporarily. :-)

Well, I don't think their interior dialogue is often QUITE like that. :-) They are being opportunistic, but not likely consciously disparaging you. However, if the escort or masseur feels/assumes that the client asks for less than advertised rates because he sees us as less than and desperate, there will be resentment, understandably, and the hour will likely not be great. AND now, I predict that since this thread has gotten out of the hands of the clients, the powers that be will soon call it OFF topic (ostensibly because of the word "escort" in a MASSAGE thread) and lock it down.

Can't imagine how hard on the body dragging a table around town is for folks. When I see masseurs and Masseuses lugging them, I say OUCH to myself and feel pity.