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Lots of "muffin top" happening in that shirtless pic.

Well...just following the logic...if you're looking for the sort of vapid, insecure, narcissists who are into bodybuilding and showing it off for cash ...it's obviously LA where you find the most vapid, insecure narcissists .

Have I read them personally ? No. Do I know what they said ? Not word for word ..but yes. Everyone needed to sign them so it was no secret and the subject has been written on in years past. Since the "house guests" weren't being "paid for sex" there was nothing illegal. Hefner's lawyers always made it clear he was having a "relationship" with these bunnies. And yes they all knew they were expected to ride the pony.

Herein lies the problem. You are making an assumption and not aware of the facts That is exactly the reason the waivers were signed. Nobody entered the Playboy mansion unaware of what goes on there

The Playboy mansion may have been marketed the same as their magazines...but it was hardly the same nuanced sensual vs. sexual environment. Everyone was well aware of what was going on..especially the bunnies who had to sign waivers and documents that spelled it out for them.

Like I said.... Brady is so sexy he could have me anywhere he wants.

I don't think anyone is denying that fact. The discussion HERE is that when you find yourself somewhere / anywhere that everyone is having sex... you're not even remotely believable when you claim to have been shocked that you were expected to have sex too.

I agree. Massage is a good way to meet...and if you see they are flexible in their business models you can discuss other interests after your massage.

Do you ? Because it doesnt say "public"... But I'd do Brady anywhere he wants

I think that's always going to be the case. Even if someone isn't necessarily very "picky". If they like you, you're gonna get special treatment. I think a pleasant demeanor and good tips can also get you moved ahead. Not just good looks. For people who want a quick-fix and move from one provider to the other, you're not necessarily going to get special treatment, ever.

Aren't all the handsome Brazilians in the luxury price category ?

I remember in High School....it wasn't uncommon for the girls to guilt-trip the boys the morning after for "going-all-the-way." Although we were somewhat promiscuous given the religious community we lived, we were all gentlemen about it and we all knew better than to coerce the girls into anything more than they were willing to do. I never once pushed any girl beyond what she was leading me to get into...but multiple times, I got attitude that I had the next day. This is a real problem for men these days. When you can suffer serious consequences for a difference of opinion about who made the first move.

Agreed 100% I'm no "virgin" to hiring. I've hired many professionals in many different countries but personally I have zero interest in hiring a complete stranger for intimate sexual encounters without having met first. So, I always book an erotic massage and take it from there.

Definitely Tom Brady. He used to live across the street from me. I'd see him getting coffee at the place on the corner where I go in the morning and dream of having my way with him in the bathroom there while Giselle pondered where he'd gotten to......

So true that.

Why bother "working" for it when you can snap a few pix and make thousands by just giving people a peek at the goods.

Tony Danza was one of my early homo-erotic fantasies. Something definitely sexy about him during his "TAXI" TV show days.

Absolutely. If I'm in the mood to "leave happy", I ask if they do "erotic" massage. Sensual is always very vague. ( not that the term erotic is much more specific )..but its harder to pretend about expectations

There are providers who are very good looking but uncomfortable engaging in sexual activity with randoms...so they inhabit a market niche somewhere in the middle of massage and escorting when you ( the client ) pay for their handsome company and they ( the provider ) get away with doing as little as possible

No one likes being forced into something they don't want to do....but I'd say there were plenty of more horrible things I've experienced in my life. I also had the common sense to confront the person who roofied me shortly afterwards and got my revenge by publicly exposing him. So it was over and done with no emotional scars.

I think it does give me insight to how people do ( or don't ) process sexual abuse For example I never said they were "horrible". You made that assumption because you jumped to a conclusion about the circumstances .

It's all self medicating. People drink to get away from bad feelings. People eat because it makes them happier. People smoke because it calms them down. People do drugs to make the world go away. Anxiety and depression are extremely common and rarely identified and treated.

I've been sexually assaulted twice as a young man. So pretty familiar with the difference between actual sexual assault and next day regret.

Which is why I did neither.

Your obvious ignorance about the history and culture of the Playboy Mansion doesn't change the reality of the situation. Sympathetic feelings toward scammers and liars makes you look naive. I suggest you learn a bit more about the issue before you start commenting