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Some guys want to protect themselves from legal liability. Each state is different. In New York State, it is illegal to provide "massage" service without a license. It is illegal to charge money for a "massage" service if you are not licensed. It is illegal to perform "massage" service in a location where it may be against the law. If caught violating any of these laws, you can end up in jail. Even if you are licensed, it may be illegal to perform the service in your home. You'd have to know the local zoning laws to be sure. Each building may have their own rules regarding work from home. If a legal case is brought against you, any ad that shows you asked for money in exchange for a "massage" service could be evidence against you. The legal onus for massage service is on the provider, not the customer. If someone has "Ask" in his ad, I would consider that person a bit more cautious. IMO, "Ask" may not mean scam at all. In fact, it could mean the opposite. Self-protection, which in turn can protect you.
 
I found this at a law site:
Because you need a license to give massages, merely an offer to give a massage or holding yourself out as an individual who can give massages is punishable as an "E" felony if you do not have a license to do so. While this offense is not considered Prostitution and a violation of New York Penal Law Article 230, the ramifications may be worse. The reality is that law enforcement, such as the NYPD, often pursues this charge as means to prosecute those people they believe are involved in Prostitution, but are unable to charge them with the crime of Prostitution or any of the other related offenses.

Some guys want to protect themselves from legal liability. Each state is different. In New York State, it is illegal to provide "massage" service without a license. It is illegal to charge money for a "massage" service if you are not licensed. It is illegal to perform "massage" service in a location where it may be against the law. If caught violating any of these laws, you can end up in jail. Even if you are licensed, it may be illegal to perform the service in your home. You'd have to know the local zoning laws to be sure. Each building may have their own rules regarding work from home. If a legal case is brought against you, any ad that shows you asked for money in exchange for a "massage" service could be evidence against you. The legal onus for massage service is on the provider, not the customer. If someone has "Ask" in his ad, I would consider that person a bit more cautious. IMO, "Ask" may not mean scam at all. In fact, it could mean the opposite. Self-protection, which in turn can protect you.
 
I found this at a law site:
Because you need a license to give massages, merely an offer to give a massage or holding yourself out as an individual who can give massages is punishable as an "E" felony if you do not have a license to do so. While this offense is not considered Prostitution and a violation of New York Penal Law Article 230, the ramifications may be worse. The reality is that law enforcement, such as the NYPD, often pursues this charge as means to prosecute those people they believe are involved in Prostitution, but are unable to charge them with the crime of Prostitution or any of the other related offenses.

Some guys want to protect themselves from legal liability. Each state is different. In New York State, it is illegal to provide "massage" service without a license. It is illegal to charge money for a "massage" service if you are not licensed. It is illegal to perform "massage" service in a location where it may be against the law. If caught violating any of these laws, you can end up in jail. Even if you are licensed, it may be illegal to perform the service in your home. You'd have to know the local zoning laws to be sure. Each building may have their own rules regarding work from home. If a legal case is brought against you, any ad that shows you asked for money in exchange for a "massage" service could be evidence against you. The legal onus for massage service is on the provider, not the customer. If someone has "Ask" in his ad, I would consider that person a bit more cautious. IMO, "Ask" may not mean scam at all. In fact, it could mean the opposite. Self-protection, which in turn can protect you.
 
I found this at a law site:
Because you need a license to give massages, merely an offer to give a massage or holding yourself out as an individual who can give massages is punishable as an "E" felony if you do not have a license to do so. While this offense is not considered Prostitution and a violation of New York Penal Law Article 230, the ramifications may be worse. The reality is that law enforcement, such as the NYPD, often pursues this charge as means to prosecute those people they believe are involved in Prostitution, but are unable to charge them with the crime of Prostitution or any of the other related offenses.

You are truly selfish, and I feel deeply worried for the people around you.

I had many roommates in my early years. Some straight guys, but mostly gay guys. I had a spacious spare bedroom, which was easy to rent. Since the lease was mine, I felt responsible. The apartment insurance was in my name. I was a hobbyist DJ. I had expensive sound equipment in my apartment. I felt I had to lay ground rules. No guests without my permission. Luckily for me, none of the guys were sex addicts, but 1 or 2 turned out to have drug problems. I had to push one guy out. It's no fun living with an addict.

Because, when the IRS comes knocking, you want an authorized, licensed person to handle your case to avoid any personal interaction between you and the IRS. Any reputable CPA will tell a customer to never speak to the IRS on your own. Always let a professional represent you.

Because, when the IRS comes knocking, you want an authorized, licensed person to handle your case to avoid any personal interaction between you and the IRS. Any reputable CPA will tell a customer to never speak to the IRS on your own. Always let a professional represent you.

I don't like it either, but some selfish people can't resist.
 
I wish someone could show me "harassment" anywhere on this thread. That's part of the problem with hate-filled politics, us vs. them. People see things that don't exist.

Well here's a little fact about a pandemic. If one person isn't safe, no one is safe.
 
I'm really tired of the selfish and the self-righteous, preaching about their pride in being selfish, and calling everyone else stupid or brainwashed by the media.

Well here's a little fact about a pandemic. If one person isn't safe, no one is safe.
 
I'm really tired of the selfish and the self-righteous, preaching about their pride in being selfish, and calling everyone else stupid or brainwashed by the media.

I'm with the OP. I hate going without massage, but I'm not taking any chances with my health. No health = no life. Plus, everyone I know who caught Covid, no matter how mild, complains about their health not being the same. I'm sorry. There are too many unknowns with this virus. I'd rather stay virus free. I lasted this long without massage, I can last another year if necessary.

I'm with the OP. I hate going without massage, but I'm not taking any chances with my health. No health = no life. Plus, everyone I know who caught Covid, no matter how mild, complains about their health not being the same. I'm sorry. There are too many unknowns with this virus. I'd rather stay virus free. I lasted this long without massage, I can last another year if necessary.

Well here's a little fact about a pandemic. If one person isn't safe, no one is safe.
 
I'm really tired of the selfish and the self-righteous, preaching about their pride in being selfish, and calling everyone else stupid or brainwashed by the media.

I'm with the OP. I hate going without massage, but I'm not taking any chances with my health. No health = no life. Plus, everyone I know who caught Covid, no matter how mild, complains about their health not being the same. I'm sorry. There are too many unknowns with this virus. I'd rather stay virus free. I lasted this long without massage, I can last another year if necessary.

I'm with the OP. I hate going without massage, but I'm not taking any chances with my health. No health = no life. Plus, everyone I know who caught Covid, no matter how mild, complains about their health not being the same. I'm sorry. There are too many unknowns with this virus. I'd rather stay virus free. I lasted this long without massage, I can last another year if necessary.

Because some service providers have a personality disorder. Not only is this bad behavior counterintuitive, it's self-destructive.
 
When I worked in the high-end spa business, I encountered massage therapists and hairdressers who believed themselves to be divas. Their ego and self pride filled the room where they stood. They believed they were the stars of their own show, and they wanted to control everything about their production. When I finally figured out their game (long chats with a psychiatrist), I made the decision to leave them alone and let them self promote. A service provider lives and dies by the way he treats a customer. If a diva service provider wants to be a stupid, selfish, controlling prick, then so be it. I witnessed many divas kill their business.
 
Since I know the game, I wouldn't waste a second on a selfish, self-destructive service provider. There are way too many talented, hungry, handsome fish in the sea.
 
I've had a profile on Rentmen since they appeared on the scene. It's a feature that I loved since day one. It offers a chance for the guys to see me and get to know me before we meet. I use my profile to weed out the guys who have no organic interest in me. I enjoy when chemistry plays a role in my encounters, so I use my profile to test the waters.
 
As far as I know, no one has blocked me yet. I window shop a lot, because I like to see photos of all types of men. Shopping is a favorite hobby. Numerous guys have contacted me without viewing them first. Some of those have definitely not been my type. I often don't respond back. It's never been a problem.
 
I have met many fun, sexy guys on Rentmen. Numerous escorts are fun to chat with, even when I can't afford to hire them this month. The most important thing to learn about this business is that you never know. If you give up trying, you'll never meet the man of your dreams.

That's a bit unrealistic, given that what many of these guys do in the name of massage is illegal. The best you can do is be critical of their business practices here and hope that some of these guys read it and consider your advice.
 
There has always been a hustle aspect associated with sex services for money. Many sex workers see their work as a legit opportunity to upsell, no different than a rental car agent selling extras. The more product you sell, the more you can charge. It's about making money. Some guys wish to conduct their business this way, while others prefer not.
 
There is a lot of choice out there. I prefer the non-hustle types, but if a certain look appeals to you, the temptation to book a hustle can take a pinch out of your wallet. I think Omar is hot, and if he wants to suck my cock during the massage, I'm afraid I might be willing to pay extra for that, even if I didn't know about it in advance. It's not like he is allowed to advertise that. A hot man nibbling at my ear during a massage and asking to provide oral @ $25 extra can have a strange and intoxicating power over me. You just have to be sure to bring extra cash.

I think dark skin is not much different than red hair, uncut cock, or cigarette breath. If you're not sexually attracted to certain details, I don't think that automatically dumps you into an -ism category. People are way too quick to scream racism today. Serious ignorance on display.
 
On the other hand, Cleveland has it's share of racists. Their police department is pretty infamous.
 
I, too, wish guys could be more upfront about their turn-ons. However, the minute you express your likes, someone will get butt-hurt for being excluded. You can't win. I think it's smarter for business to at least make the appearance of being open to all. Deal with individual let downs privately.

Lots of science available on chronic halitosis, which is something mints, mouthwash, or brushing teeth can't solve.
 
Research "tongue scraping" to learn how much bacteria clings to the tongue.
 
Research "zinc-activated rinses" and learn how they stop the production of sulfur, which can cause terrible odor in the mouth.
 
Unfortunately, once you start to lick armpits, eat ass, or suck a semen-dripping cock, there isn't much to salvage some situations. Sex is not an aromatherapy spa experience.

Farting happens, especially if you're over 50 and waiting to take a proper dump. Trying to control it can sometimes cause excruciating pain. Far more uncomfortable than letting go on date. If I were in bed, I'd be considerate enough to get to the nearest bathroom before letting go. In the middle of a fuck? I'd probably ignore it unless he shit my bed.
 
Massage therapists often deal with customer farting. It comes with the job. Many therapists are very understanding about this. I had one massage therapist go ballistic because his customer farted through the entire massage. Best not to eat Tex-Max just before getting a massage. Most people pay attention to these things, but there are always outliers.

Escorts and massage therapists who ask for a deposit are way too precious for me. It suggests that their time is "too" important, which also suggests that money takes priority over anything else. That's a bridge too far for me. I have other more important service people in my life, and none of them require a deposit for an appointment, so why should I treat a massage or escort appointment any differently? To each his own.

Lots of science available on chronic halitosis, which is something mints, mouthwash, or brushing teeth can't solve.
 
Research "tongue scraping" to learn how much bacteria clings to the tongue.
 
Research "zinc-activated rinses" and learn how they stop the production of sulfur, which can cause terrible odor in the mouth.
 
Unfortunately, once you start to lick armpits, eat ass, or suck a semen-dripping cock, there isn't much to salvage some situations. Sex is not an aromatherapy spa experience.

Lots of science available on chronic halitosis, which is something mints, mouthwash, or brushing teeth can't solve.
 
Research "tongue scraping" to learn how much bacteria clings to the tongue.
 
Research "zinc-activated rinses" and learn how they stop the production of sulfur, which can cause terrible odor in the mouth.
 
Unfortunately, once you start to lick armpits, eat ass, or suck a semen-dripping cock, there isn't much to salvage some situations. Sex is not an aromatherapy spa experience.

I remember him being a really nice guy with great word of mouth. I think he worked in health care, and his boyfriend had recently died. It was easy to talk with him. After our session, he would walk us into his shower and we would play more there. He really enjoyed playing with butt hole. I think he also had a pet dog. Never expected that someone's Inbox would jar my memory.

Escorts and massage therapists who ask for a deposit are way too precious for me. It suggests that their time is "too" important, which also suggests that money takes priority over anything else. That's a bridge too far for me. I have other more important service people in my life, and none of them require a deposit for an appointment, so why should I treat a massage or escort appointment any differently? To each his own.